2006-11-30, 09:00 | Link #1 |
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[Manga] Chapter 333 Discussion
Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread .
As per the forums rules, please don't ask or mention where to download the (licensed) manga. Also remember not to post or link to any translations of the manga, since this is illegal as well. Posting a synopses or summary is fine (and welcome) but please do not discuss scans, raws, translation groups, etc. Also note that only moderators or designated members will be able to create this thread. ナルト333: 相性・・・ (Affinity...) Short Summary: Shikamaru managed to immobilize both Hidan and Kakazu using his shadow. This time Hidan start panicking, saying it will be over for both of them now. Shikamaru confirm this, as het tells them they're done for the second he caught them. Kakazu remains silent, watching as Shikamaru's shadow extends into Hidan's direction.An illustration will maybe follow later ... A interesting 'fact' I discovered, is that in Hattori clan's family tree, there's been a certain Naruto, being a very skilled Ninja as well \(^ ^)/ Last edited by Syaoran; 2006-12-01 at 03:33. |
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-This chapter was indeed good and I'm glad that the Kakashi we saw in ch.331 earlier is indeed the "real" deal. For some reason I would have disliked it if it was just Naruto using a Henge to go with Shikamaru's team. What I want to know now is how Kakuzu will get himself out of this predicament (you know as well as I do that he isn't done for)? After all, he was on the direct receiving blast of Kakashi's Raikiri... Last edited by Luminion Lancer; 2006-11-30 at 09:36. |
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2006-11-30, 09:36 | Link #4 |
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Yeah, no way Kakuzu is done for.. Though I'm curious of how he's going to survive a raikiri through his chest.
I think that he's able to manipulate his internal organs, somehow.. perhaps he's moved his vital points to other locations or something, just a wild guess. We havent seen his 'true' face, nor do we know anything about him, or even seen his famous berserker moves. Akatsuki aint going down without flashbacks and background storylines. IMO this was one of the best chapters in a long time, really pumped me up. |
2006-11-30, 10:13 | Link #6 |
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Uhm... this new jutsu of Naruto seems a little too powerfull...
Imagine it when it hits a person....it'll be like looking at the explosion of 10 grenades...without distance..50 cm...since he detonates it from his own hands.. The impact it has on the opponent would mean he gets hit aswell right? Anyway...I doubt Kakuzu dies so fast...because it makes him look like your average jounin...and Ino also need to step in... Ninpou Shinran Shin No Jutsu! (and make them fight eachother...) they dont even need to use the shadows...with Ino
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2006-11-30, 10:19 | Link #7 |
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By the way, don't forget that Naruto's jutsu still seems to be incomplete. If the level of improvement we will observe in going from the incomplete version of wind-Rasengan to the complete one is similar to what we had observed in going from incomplete Rasengan to complete Rasengan, imagine the change we will observe next, and the finalized power of wind-Rasengan. I can't wait to see it in action.
After checking the lines corresponding to the next week's chapter, this might really be the end for Kakuzu. Regarding Kakuzu, it just says, "Kakuzu falls!", with no question mark. Also, what will be the whole story that preview talks about? Story about their childhood or Akatsuki plans? |
2006-11-30, 10:30 | Link #9 | |
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My Analysis Of 333
Well I just read this, great chapter really it answered allot of things. First and foremost Shikamaru said "I wont screw the order up this time." this totally say's that Shikamaru meant he wont screw up on who he should kill / attack first that being Mr.Fix It like I guessed in the chapter 332 discussion, if you want to kill something that keeps getting fixed (Hidan) you kill what fixes it first (Kakuzu).
The other thing is, I'm glad that Kakazu didn’t find out how to break from Kage Mane because the thought of that pissed me off, he let one of his arm's go underground right after the first pair of tag's exploded, so I'm glad that you cant beat the Kage Mane. I thought Chouji's jutsu was pretty sweet it reminded me of when Jiraiya tried to harden his hair in to spikes during the Orochimaru fight, speaking of Jutsu's Naruto's new Jutsu looks NUT’S like Syzlet mentioned "Naruto seemed to have re-invented a small nuclear bomb" Something very interesting that I made an observation on, in this chapter which I think is a foreshadow "Your wind-element jutsu will lose against Sasuke's fire-element jutsu. The only way to beat fire is water." I think this foreshadows that Naruto's 2nd element might be water (assuming he has one) I say this because a while back when the whole element stuff was reviled I mentioned the only element left for Naruto is really Water, due to all the others being taken by other Konoha Ninja and becoming something special to them and perhaps their clan EX: Sasuke/Uchiha fire. Another observation I made is "So if you countered Sasuke's fire jutsu with a wind jutsu of the same strength you'd only make the fire stronger" In other words if Naruto's new jutsu over power's sasuke's fire jutsu the wind weakness does not apply. "Naruto: The only power that can save a fire from dying ad give it even more power is wind." >_> This says to me Sasuke will get stronger, good means the manga wont be ending any time soon and Naruto will keep coming up with more shit possibly even find out his second element is water. I love how kakashi looks with his hand through Kakuzu's chest its perfect. Kakashi's Lightning Edge looks as good as always, even better then the Chidori if you ask me. As for Kakuzu no he's not dead I'm still going with what I said earlier in the Chapter 332 discussion. Quote:
One last thing, I had a small epiphany of Naruto's stupidity and I realized its not that Naruto is stupid, his character is made that way to provided explanations for people who don’t understand and need a farther/better explanation. Remember this is a Shounen Manga when Naruto asks "How come?" (How come wind is weaker then fire and water is stronger then fire) Is it because Naruto is stupid? Yes, but his character is like this because this provides the viewer's who don’t know the answer, AN answer and does not make THEM feel stupid, makes Naruto look stupid.
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2006-11-30, 10:45 | Link #10 |
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Nice chapter overall, though I think Kishimoto could start to let Naruto seem at least a bit smarter after all this time. The way he looked, I thought he was at the very limit of his abstract thinking capabilities. Kishimoto could have let Naruto make some more of those conclusions instead of getting everything explained to. Concernig the rock-paper-scissor principle, I'm looking forward to the upcoming "Nen" battles.
So, Wind enhances Fire. Do I smell a "combined power double whopper Naruto&Sasuke final ultimate with sugar on top beat the uber bad guy no jutsu"? I'd be (positively) surprised if Kishimoto was willing to off one of the bad guys so quickly. It would let Kakashi hog a bit of the fame after quite a while (compared to the oh so fast growing "wow they're already that good I can retire soon" 2nd generation). Though I wouldn't count Kazuku out just jet. There still might be a jutsu that'll let us see those beloved zoomed in shocked face pages we can't get enough of. Last edited by Oberon; 2006-11-30 at 11:17. Reason: spelling |
2006-11-30, 12:07 | Link #14 |
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I thought this chapter was great! Kakashi is such a bad ass at times, he needs more of those moments!
Do you expect anything less? i mean rasengan was already super powerful as is and doing something kakashi and the 4th couldn't do already made the jutsu 20 times stronger if not more. |
2006-11-30, 12:12 | Link #15 |
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Interesting Chapter.
First of it seems that Naruto is planning on helping Sasuke on his revenge? Maybe a Foreshadow of Sasuke and Naruto fighting Against Itachi? Then Cool Kakshi and showing of one of the most important aspect of the Sharingan, Analyzed And counter/cancels a Jutsu effect. And the one of the funnies moment of the Manga: Kakkuzu: I actually Think, unlike my partner. Hidan pissed of: What the heck was that “unlike my partner” BS? Hilarious
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2006-11-30, 12:24 | Link #17 |
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It's not like most guys here can actually read all that stuff...its translated ....anyway yeah i didnt expect THAT much from this new jutsu...
Also I didnt see any kage bunshins go poof! while we saw Naruto like that.... IF he has that jutsu one handed or without Kage Bunshin...i'd be very happy. But Water > Fire was pretty obvious.... 3rd Hokage: Katon Karyuu Endan!! 2nd Hokage: Suiton Sujin Heki! (and Sandaimes attack was useless instantly) However this weakness, strenghts vs, vs, is sounding awfully like Pokemon or something like that...
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2006-11-30, 12:52 | Link #18 |
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Yeah, I'm happy that it's really Kakashi, he's proven again what a badass he is. Naruto's definately forshadowed to help Sasuke kill Itachi and his "new" jutsu may have some promise if Kishimoto can relight the flames of creativity. All in all a great chapter, I was definately pumped when Kakashi pwned Kakuzu.
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2006-11-30, 13:24 | Link #19 |
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Hell yes Kakashi!! Even if its inevitably not the end for Kakuzu, awesome pose awesome drawing Kishi.
A side note. Itachi and Shark-face (forgot his name) The Uchiha fire element would lose to his water element then. Maybe they are more even than I first thought. I'm not sure this chapter foreshadows Naruto helping Sasuke, I doubt Kishimoto would justify Sasuke's revenge he hasnt shown Sasuke's ideals to be a good thing so far. I do think that it shows furthermore a circular theory related to the two rivals. They will keep making each other stronger fire to wind, wind to lightning, fire to wind again... Its like Kakashi said, 'As long as those two live' They ll be battling each other. |
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Actually, it was Kakuzu's arm that lifted the blade up, not the shadow. |
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