[Manga] Chapter 430 Discussion

[Hunter]

Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter.

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[AuroraFlash]

Originally Posted by Hunter

Spoiler for post:

Welcome to the weekly manga chapter discussion thread. This thread is created early to discuss spoilers and speculation about the upcoming chapter.

As per the forums rules, please don't ask for or mention about where to download the (licensed) manga. Also remember not to post or link to any translations of the manga, since this is illegal as well. Posting a synopses or summary is fine (and welcome) but please do not discuss scans, raws, translation groups, etc.

Remember that the manga is licensed, do not post significant part of the chapters. This stands for pictures and direct translations. Summaries are ok, crops of pictures are ok as well if you want to illustrate your point but this is it.

We love you, Hunter! You're the quickest! The sharpest, the best, the one and only! Merry Christmas, dude!
I'm always scared of this announcement. After reading it, I don't know what to do. Can I say what happens or is this forbidden either?

[Fran~]

Thank you Hunter!!!


well, well, well... So Naruto is pulling a Goku when he arrived to Namek eh?

Naruto now has a Cape, Gamabunta and Gamaken are summoned, Tsunade risk her life to save everyone thru Katsuyu and her "rebirth jutsu"...

And Naruto sure is pissed off... he and Pain will fight...

Thx Kishi... happy xmas for you too...

[tkdtiger]

I hope everyone is have a fantastic holiday season. : )

[AuroraFlash]

Wow, this is too good to be true. Masa-kun seems to have done it right. We've been going through a dry spell, but now we can finally see the oasis!
This chapter is the best in a year!

[Fran~]

sure i'm happy... thx AuroraFlash

[kooru]

pics? script? etc?

Merry xmas all!

[naruske]

Translated by KWGoDのbrucelee
ナルト帰還(くまどりナルトに巻物、4代目に似た羽織り)
naruto goes back (looks shaded on a scroll, he has a cape thing like the 4th)
ナルト、あまりの惨劇に場所わからず
naruto can’t recognize the place due to all the destruction
イルカ、シカマル親子、チョウジ親子、キバ親子は生きてる
iruka, shikamaru (father son) chouji (father son) kiba (mother son) are alive
カカシは1コマだけで生死わからず
kakashi…still not sure but he’s in 1 panel.
ヒアシは留守だったみたい
hiashi was away from the town (or on patrol, not sure…)
綱手が創造再生してカツユに全チャクラを渡したから皆助かった模様(額マーク無くなる)
Tsuande has used souzouzaisei and given all her chakra to katsuya to help everyone (the mark on her forehead is gone)
閻魔が豆ペイン食べて豆ペイン復活
Enma eats ‘bean’ Pein who then comes back to life
天道に全チャクラ集めたのはリスク高く、コナンが看ると言っている
gathering all the chakra in tendou was risky, konan offers to treat him
豆ペインが綱手襲うもナルト瞬殺
bean pain goes after Tsunade but naruto kills him instantly.
4代目、ジライヤと重なる背中
He has the 4th and Jiraiya’s at his back.
最後にナルト、ケリつけてやる！
Final page is naruto ‘let’s finish this’

[static-flare]

Pein: Saves me the trouble of looking for you.

[Mists]

Finally, Naruto remembers he has summons!? He like hasn't used that since the fight vs Sasuke in pt 1!

And all the DBZ references can start now...Including for onlookers the random naruto powerup (somehow he didn't even use a bunch of clones to learn real fast...)

I wonder how this sets up for Sasuke vs Naruto pt 2, will Naruto whimp out and not actually fight because he's trying to 'save' Sasuke?

[Kakosan]

Originally Posted by Mists

And all the DBZ references can start now...Including for onlookers the random naruto powerup (somehow he didn't even use a bunch of clones to learn real fast...)

Errr... IMO he had plenty of time to practice with clones. Remember that the panels in the manga do not necessarily occur simultaneously in time.

[Kishimyu]

So the fight between Naruto and Pain is going to begin in the next chapter eh.
Do you guys think he might have a new Rasengan (LOL!)like Jaraiya's Omou Oodama Rasengan? Or maybe even Fuuton:Omou Oodama Rasenshuriken?
If Naruto comes back and has developed some new Rasengan that he can use in sage mode.......I will be 'kinda' dissapointed; but if he pulls something off like Shunshin, that'd be awsome!

[ChronoReverse]

Hehe, Naruto should embed his fuuton rasengan inside Jiraiya's uber sage-mode rasengan.

[Ero-Senn1n]

Originally Posted by Mists

Finally, Naruto remembers he has summons!? He like hasn't used that since the fight vs Sasuke in pt 1!

We don't know that yet since he and other frogs were summoned by Fukasaku's wife who was fooling around there just when she was needed (that's actually a bit stupid plot device).

[Rahan]

Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

We don't know that yet since he and other frogs were summoned by Fukasaku's wife who was fooling around there just when she was needed (that's actually a bit stupid plot device).

Yeah, and the powerful summons mentioned in the last chapter being only Bunta and Ken is kinda a letdown too ... They are nothing Naruto wouldnt' have been able to summon himself ...

Oh, and Hinata who was with Kiba and Shino at the beginning of the invasion is now on patrol with her father and Hanabi ?

[Brandar]

Spoiler for quote:

Originally Posted by naruske

Translated by KWGoDのbrucelee
ナルト帰還(くまどりナルトに巻物、4代目に似た羽織り)
naruto goes back (looks shaded on a scroll, he has a cape thing like the 4th)
ナルト、あまりの惨劇に場所わからず
naruto can’t recognize the place due to all the destruction
イルカ、シカマル親子、チョウジ親子、キバ親子は生きてる
iruka, shikamaru (father son) chouji (father son) kiba (mother son) are alive
カカシは1コマだけで生死わからず
kakashi…still not sure but he’s in 1 panel.
ヒアシは留守だったみたい
hiashi was away from the town (or on patrol, not sure…)
綱手が創造再生してカツユに全チャクラを渡したから皆助かった模様(額マーク無くなる)
Tsuande has used souzouzaisei and given all her chakra to katsuya to help everyone (the mark on her forehead is gone)
閻魔が豆ペイン食べて豆ペイン復活
Enma eats ‘bean’ Pein who then comes back to life
天道に全チャクラ集めたのはリスク高く、コナンが看ると言っている
gathering all the chakra in tendou was risky, konan offers to treat him
豆ペインが綱手襲うもナルト瞬殺
bean pain goes after Tsunade but naruto kills him instantly.
4代目、ジライヤと重なる背中
He has the 4th and Jiraiya’s at his back.
最後にナルト、ケリつけてやる！
Final page is naruto ‘let’s finish this’

This pretty much sums up that Tsunade sacrificed herself for the sake of villagers, so we can assume that she's dead. In addition nothing corrects Kakashi's death, so he will probably be brought back to life thanks to Tsunade's technique and probably become Rokudaime after the whole Pain's assault.

[Fran~]

It's unclear yet what are doing Bunta, Ken and the other frogs, it seems they are trying to buy some time with Pain Bodies while Naruto is facing Deva Pain. Naruto isnt that good summoning, remember Bunta's kids (gamakichi and gamatatsu) and summoning something as big as Ken sure is big deal. Naruto is concentrating on Sage Mode i think.

About Hinata, people are not agree with translations about it. Someones points at some kind of bodyguards on Hinata and Hiashi is the one on Patrol... again, it's unclear yet.

[nutype]

Originally Posted by Brandar

This pretty much sums up that Tsunade sacrificed herself for the sake of villagers, so we can assume that she's dead. In addition nothing corrects Kakashi's death, so he will probably be brought back to life thanks to Tsunade's technique and probably become Rokudaime after the whole Pain's assault.

wow speculations and assumptions galore.

actually i wouldnt mind if what you said actually came true though i would kinda of disappointed that kakashi is not dead after all that kishi showed us. It still wouldnt make sense though seeing how naruto clearly IS the strongest of the village so he should be technically be hokage. If being hokage meant being smart then yes it would be kaka or shika.

[Fran~]

Originally Posted by Brandar

This pretty much sums up that Tsunade sacrificed herself for the sake of villagers, so we can assume that she's dead.

She isnt dead... she is amazed by Naruto's sage mode, same Hinata and, oh boy, Sakura...

souzouzaisei isn't means the dead for Tsunade but it shortens her lifespan, but she used that jutsu almost 4 years ago...

In addition nothing corrects Kakashi's death, so he will probably be brought back to life thanks to Tsunade's technique and probably become Rokudaime after the whole Pain's assault.

Just one panel shows Kakashi, and he is still in the same way he left after Pain's Battle. But i think that he isnt dead though.

[Lunarskylar]

gah i used to like naruto's sgae mode face... but the panel of him vs pein... he looks liek a constipated frog-fox
or maybe it's the jump suit... the say clothes liek teh yondaime, but there's still teh jumpsuit
KILL THE JUMPSUIT

the immortal jumpsuit that can survive even 4tail kyuubii chakra >.<