Re:Zero - Episode 23 Discussion / Poll

[Joachim]

excellent episode! god can someone give a VA oscar to subaru's voice actor already? that guy is delivering a superb performance all around in this anime

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by Joachim

excellent episode! god can someone give a VA oscar to subaru's voice actor already? that guy is delivering a superb performance all around in this anime

Seconded. Still, can wouldn't Julius killing Subaru will just make another restart?

[moridin84]

- Ram is good.
- The villagers aren't wrong when they blame Emilia for what's happening.
- The damage Felis received from that explosion must have been a lot consider that she he couldn't use any of her his clothes.
- "Stand down villain", oh yeah Emilia is the kind of person that gives those lines.

I suppose one of the reasons this happened is because most people were thinking "there is no way Subaru could die at this point". Not sure what's going to happen though. It could be a fake out. It could end up with episode 24 being a fast forwarded repeat of the last several episodes. It could be a partial reset. Or it could be...

Originally Posted by HandofFate

What if he returns back but in Betelgeuse's other body before the group raided him. And it turns into a body swap, and Betelgeuse(Subaru) has to try to stop Subaru (Betelgeuse) while everyone else is trying to stop him.

That's really interesting.

[DemonneoPT]

Originally Posted by moridin84

- The villagers aren't wrong when they blame Emilia for what's happening.

I blame best girl Satella for that

[Kakurin]

I knew things wouldn't end so smoothly. Why Subaru getting taken over was not what I expected it also wasn't significantly beyond my expectations. Curious though how this arc will get resolved. Was the last scene a misdirection or is Subaru getting sent back all over again?

[GDB]

Originally Posted by moridin84

- The villagers aren't wrong when they blame Emilia for what's happening.

That's like blaming someone who was hit by a car for other people getting hurt while the ones in the car that hit them speeds away in a panic.

[Phantom]

To the very end, Subaru truly was a cut above the rest.

[Applehell]

Originally Posted by larethian

I can't believe they still put in the OP. We are done with volume 8 with this. Just 2 episodes for volume 9.

They been altenating between OP and ED though for awhile now. Also heard from elsewhere they managed cover most of v8 with only few scenes cut and altered.

Originally Posted by Tempester

Somebody get Kobayashi Yuusuke an award because his voice acting for Subaru in this show is absolutely awesome, and his Betelgeuse voice at the end of this episode just enforces how talented he is.

I third this. Dude is going places after this show. I wouldn't be surprised if he won the seyiruu award this year.

Originally Posted by GDB

That's like blaming someone who was hit by a car for other people getting hurt while the ones in the car that hit them speeds away in a panic.

Yeah, regardless if Emilia was their goal she is no way responsible for their actions. She never even met these crazy people her life and did what she could to safeguard the villagers.

[Kuroageha]

It's more an issue of body control than simply switching bodies and minds, or else Subaru wouldn't have been fighting Beetlejuice over the control of his body.

[Peanutbutter]

Only the first, second and Subaru can do Betelguese so good. The rest doesn't leave much of an impression.

And yeah, Subaru's VA did an absolute great job, not just in this episode, but throughout the series. Must have spent a lot of time in the studio repeating the lines until they get it right.

[Stark700]

Pretty awesome episode this week.

The VA also did a very good job at portraying Subaru when he got possessed by Betelgeuse. The way he expressed himself legit scared me for a moment.

[moridin84]

Originally Posted by GDB

That's like blaming someone who was hit by a car for other people getting hurt while the ones in the car that hit them speeds away in a panic.

If she wasn't around then there would be no reason for the witch cult to attack the village.

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by moridin84

If she wasn't around then there would be no reason for the witch cult to attack the village.

Strange logic. Instead of blaming the actual perpetrators, blame the victim of said perpetrators? That's like people caught up in a bank robbery blaming the bank for the harm they suffered.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by moridin84

If she wasn't around then there would be no reason for the witch cult to attack the village.

And if the victim didn't get hit by the car, the driver wouldn't panic and hurt other people in said panic.

[FlameSparkZ]

What an episode. Just when everything seemed to be going smoothly, it took a turn for the worst, then it got even worse with Subaru getting possessed.

Can't wait for next week.

[Incest Emblem]

Originally Posted by Kakurin-san

Strange logic. Instead of blaming the actual perpetrators, blame the victim of said perpetrators? That's like people caught up in a bank robbery blaming the bank for the harm they suffered.

I take it you have never been to the United Suing Association. Yes, the victims would sue the bank for not taking enough security measures. Case in point: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...nap-story.html

As for why Betelgeuse was able to take over Subaru's body: I am assuming it was not because of compatibility, or it would be difficult for Subaru to escape. My assumption is it has to do with the fact that Subaru took the gospel. Recall Felis and Mimi's fears about those who read the book becoming cultists? Back then, we dismissed the fears as superstition, but perhaps the fears are not quite so unfounded after all.

[Dengar]

After everything Subaru went through to get this far, will it all have been for nothing? God dammit, I really hope he lives through this. He made it too far to fail now.

Also, am I actually the only one who sees something completely different from a consciousness transfer? To me it looks more like all these 'fingers' literally act as the archbishop's limbs. So it's not so much a consciousness transfer as it is assimilation. Think of the six paths of pain. Kinda like that. Rather than the body being inhabited by the soul, it is the soul that claims ownership of the body. I.E. the central consciousness is elsewhere, although I do not know whether or not it is corporeal.

[Arkard]

That ending just continues the long string of excellent episode closures by White Fox. That was just brilliantly done.

Also really Felis? He's in pretty much a burlap sack or its equivalent and still looks cute.

Kinda surprised how well Julius and Subaru get along now that they've patched things up. If one of their genders was reversed that line about the thing he has left to say at the end there can be taken in the wrong way. Actually, they're so buddy buddy it probably still can be!

If Subaru has actually been killed off as implied at the end of this episode though, the save point has gotta have been moved. Even assuming the last episode is an extended one, there's just no time to go over all that alliance formation and whale stuff again with so little time left.

Assuming a death, Return by Death can help with the hidden fingers and cultists that were lurking in the carriages and with the merchants, but that still leaves the problem of how to kill Betelgeuse who just seems to be body hopping like mad... the only thing I can think of is what he's resorted to time and time again so far... start talking about Return by Death. You're trying to possess my body? You love the witch? Say hello to Satella. She's a really really scary yandere who strokes me in inappropriate places when I try to talk about her. What do you think's gonna happen when she finds out you're trying to possess "her man?"

[Twi]

Wow, so much regret at the end for both of them. And Felis really plays the role of a woman too well...

[DemonneoPT]

Originally Posted by Dengar

Also, am I actually the only one who sees something completely different from a consciousness transfer? To me it looks more like all these 'fingers' literally act as the archbishop's limbs. So it's not so much a consciousness transfer as it is assimilation. Think of the six paths of pain. Kinda like that. Rather than the body being inhabited by the soul, it is the soul that claims ownership of the body. I.E. the central consciousness is elsewhere, although I do not know whether or not it is corporeal.

Yeah, i guess! What you call as "central consciousness" could also be Betelgeuse's original self. He probably went mad after dying over and over again..lol. I wonder if Betelgeuse is what Subaru would eventually become if Rem was not there...
But your assimilation idea is also interesting!