Xbox One

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

Wait, is this even confirmed? This is the first time I ever heard about it.

Yea, that's what the 24hr online check is for, to verify that all the games installed in your system hasn't been sold yet.

[demino_hellsin]

After wtching address the sess, I think they forgot what console gming is all about.

[cronnoponno]

Originally Posted by Jazzrat

I don't see any actual points being made that giving Gamestop more money is doing the industry more benefits.

No one tried to make this, other than claim that used games can have benefits for companies(which they CAN), I don't see how you've come up with any good points yourself.


Let me bold it for you


SOMEONE BUYING A NEW GAME AT GAMESTOP DOES NOT GIVE ANY MONEY TO THE PUBLISHER AT ALL, GAMESTOP HAS ALREADY BOUGHT THAT NEW GAME FROM THE PRODUCERS AS THEY HAVE WITH EVERY OTHER NEW GAME THEY HAVE AND WHETHER OR NOT IT SELLS DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE PUBLISHER HAS OBTAINED MONEY FROM IT. HIGH AMOUNTS OF USED GAME SALES PRESSURES GAMESTOP TO RESTOCK(THAT MEANS BUY MORE) ON NEW INVENTORY TO INCREASE THE POOL OF PRE-OWNED, BY THE TIME PRE-OWNED HAS A STEADY SUPPLY OF PRODUCT, THE GAME IS OFTEN YEARS OLD AND RESTOCKING ON NEW TITLES WOULD BE IRRELEVANT AND ONLY SHOPPERS WHO WANT TO BUY PARTS OF A SAGA OR WANT TO BUY GAMES CASUALLY FOR A CHILD OR SUCH WILL BE BUYING THEM.


The damage used games do to the gaming industry is ludicrous, it does MINIMAL damage. Buying a new AAA title used is rare and almost pointless, saving 4$ on a game that was used by someone else is something people RARELY do, and acting like this has a noticeable impact on the gaming industry is even worse.

It's not some business killer, it doesn't put gaming companies out of business, it is far more complicated and there are far, FAR worse things that damage the game-industry, and targeting used games, one of the only things that actually DO benefit customers isn't fixing anything.


People are also ignoring that, people who trade in games aren't just limited to pre owned games, they often go for new as well. The ability to trade in games give people WITHOUT MONEY to buy new games as well.

[Urzu 7]

Originally Posted by cronnoponno

Let me bold it for you

Please don't.

THE SHOUTING IS SCARY.

[cronnoponno]

Originally Posted by Urzu 7

Please don't.

THE SHOUTING IS SCARY.

I didn't mean to imply shouting, it's just that I feel my post was ignored twice... so I am bolding it and capping it for emphasis.

[Urzu 7]

Originally Posted by cronnoponno

I didn't mean to imply shouting, it's just that I feel my post was ignored twice... so I am bolding it and capping it for emphasis.

I think if you bold it in regular text and put it in a quote box, that will highlight that text without doing the all caps. The thing is, people tend to just skip over text in all caps.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Or just use a different colour.

[Urzu 7]

Your post just screams 'strawberries'.

And cronnoponno, your post just screams.

[cronnoponno]

Originally Posted by Urzu 7

Your post just screams 'strawberries'.

And cronnoponno, your post just screams.

Perhaps I should make it screaming strawberries, that way it'll be like a fruit punch.

[Urzu 7]

Indeed. Smack the reader upside the head!

[Sides]

Originally Posted by GDB

It's actually getting rather annoying how everyone is ignoring Nintendo. And as long as Microsoft/Sony keep their servers going, companies can continue to develop for the 360 and PS3 too.

There is some stuff going around that EA stopped their support, because the WiiU/3DS doesn't have a native DRM feature, for retail games, and have opt for an open system, where publisher can decide if want to implement one by their own account, see Uplay, Origin aso. Of course this means that publishers have to themselves managed their own systems, which adds costs, and have to answer to consumers directly, if shit hits the fan.
And here is the thing, if sony does promote native DRM features, all western publishers will stop putting, at least, retail version of games on nintendo consoles. Eshop versions on the other hand does have a DRM like thing going on, as all titles are machine bond.
So depending how Sony act either Nintendo or MS could be in trouble.

[kyp275]

Here's a good piece of article to read about the whole ups and downs of used game sales and just generally about MS's policy and the arguments of those that supports it:

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Pen...ees-56140.html

Now it's time to tear down the misinformation like the Berlin Wall. According to digital and retail trends, digital game consumption had risen to $10 billion in 2012, while (gasp) used game sales have dipped by 17.1% in 2012. Year over year, the used game market from retail sales are dropping. Let me repeat that, there has been a 17.1% drop in used game sales and a surge in digital media consumption. If you still don't believe the numbers and refuse to follow market trends, even Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter buried the rumors of used games killing the retail market when he pointed out that, at max, there is an approximate 5% cannibalization rate of used games on the new games market. And as the final nail in the coffin, Inside Gaming Daily reported that 70% of Gamestop's used game trade-ins go toward new game purchases, effectively fueling new game sales that directly resonates as revenue for publishers.

This is worth a read as well:

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Top...try-40569.html

[Urzu 7]

Originally Posted by Sides

There is some stuff going around that EA stopped their support, because the WiiU/3DS doesn't have a native DRM feature, for retail games, and have opt for an open system, where publisher can decide if want to implement one by their own account, see Uplay, Origin aso. Of course this means that publishers have to themselves managed their own systems, which adds costs, and have to answer to consumers directly, if shit hits the fan.
And here is the thing, if sony does promote native DRM features, all western publishers will stop putting, at least, retail version of games on nintendo consoles. Eshop versions on the other hand does have a DRM like thing going on, as all titles are machine bond.
So depending how Sony act either Nintendo or MS could be in trouble.

Before Wii U released, EA was buddies with Nintendo, but then things went sour. What I hear is that EA tried to get Origin on Wii U but then Nintendo decided against it and so EA is being a pissy baby.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I don't know about buddies, but this thing with Nintendo saying no to their bullshit origins is why they're not developing games for their consoles.

I believe they had pulled Crysis 3 from the Wii U because of it as well.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Wow, thats super vague.

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Wow, thats super vague.

more like, blockbuster is still around!?

I also get this funny feeling that blockbuster probably don't have much of a record to begin with. Now if a major retailer reports the same thing, then that'd be different (at least those tend to have solid numbers).

[Urzu 7]

You never know how PR could spin things and present the info to gaming sites. Record pre-orders with the XBO might just mean something like "record pre-orders of a Microsoft game console for the UK division of Blockbuster". I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. Lawl

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by Urzu 7

You never know how PR could spin things and present the info to gaming sites. Record pre-orders with the XBO might just mean something like "record pre-orders of a Microsoft game console for the UK division of Blockbuster". I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. Lawl

My impression of the article was that it IS from the UK division of blockbuster.

[defki]

It is Blockbuster UK.

The bigger surprise should be that they are still alive.

[Eragon]

So, does MS think that screwing around with gamers is fun or that its the only company in the market in the console market?

I mean always online for almost anything to work? What the fuck?