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Freedom to eat. I can only have as much freedom to eat as I can. I can eat some, eat a lot, eat little. I can have some food = some freedom of eating, a lot of food=a lot of freedom of eating, little food= little freedom. The eating part only serves as example. What do you think? EDIT: Happy Birsday Confucius! |
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A person's freedom from the discriminating attitude by these sumbags is absolute. and immesurable. There's never been such an occasion like a local minority community negotiating how much hate propaganda should they take lying down.
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We have to analyse the inherited philosophy from our ancestors in their right measure and context. Even if they are influenced by concepts that we consider backwards nowadays (like being a misogynist) it was the de facto way of thinking back then, and by no means his own fault. Aw well, in any case, we can feel free to disagree with him in light of our own beliefs Quote:
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It is still absolute, because of the fact that negative freedom is absolute. The freedom to do something is something I do not consider as "freedom". |
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2009-09-29, 13:52 | Link #34 | |
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What about the case of certain people who are offended by everything? There's at least one party pooper in every town who considers everything everybody else does to be "offensive." |
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You know, let's just have a fight and whoever wins enjoys his freedom or something like that. |
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2009-09-29, 13:57 | Link #37 |
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Yes you are right. Being never has freedom in the first place. You are limited within what you are. But that's undeniably impractical. It has nothing to do with the practical issues and practical sense of freedom in Confucius' teaching.
May you not play philosophy here? If you want to do it, do it correctly. At the least, say "Never liked SOME OF his teaching. Confucians are MOSTLY ritualistically artificial and notoriously two-faced." As there are definitely invaluable lessons in his words. And that's what is left and should be, and is being followed by many even in modern societies. The exact Confucian societies ceased to exist long already. As least with Confucius, East Asia has a moral foundation times more solid than in the West. A too morally strict society is at least better than a society with no moral Not that I say western culture has no moral, but it may will reach a point close to. East Asia has Confucian as a brake when things turn too bad. Flame me if you want. |
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That's not necessarily a good thing. This "solid" is in fact "rigid" and by the time the West explored the abstract ideas of morality, China got left behind, apparently because the Chinese never bothered straying from the confucian paradigm due to their "practical" leaning.
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