To Aru Kagaku no Railgun Manga - Daihasei Festival Arc Discussion / Poll

[ACertainStark]

Wait... what happened to seeing Misaki and Mitori do some stuff?

I guess that's the next arc...

[mark1246]

Originally Posted by ACertainStark

Wait... what happened to seeing Misaki and Mitori do some stuff?

I guess that's the next arc...

I just said that in the bottom page of the last post LOL
my god, but what did you think about my comment about the filler?

[OH&S]

Well sucks that we can't confirm that the remaining clone is Full-Tuning (though by now its 90% confirmed).

But what about Touma, Gunha and Mikoto interaction? What about the shadow metal mystery? What happened to Gensei?

...At least we get the folk dance.

And with the conclusion of the Gremlin Saga in the light novels, it looks like we are about to move into new territory in the Index:NT light novels, Railgun manga and Accelerator manga. Exciting times.

[Miraluka]

As usual: the plot got dealt off screen, Mikoto doesn't knows about it nor tries to pursue the mattter about her clone, Gensei, Misaki or even Touma and the mc lives her life as usual no big change there.

Heck, all the plot build up to end it like this? It feels like I'm watching Kaminomi's manga again ........ orz


I don't think even Misaki can save this arc from going higher than a 6 or 7/10 but I need the scans for her part with Mitori, damn you Japan, why you post only the pages with Saten and Kuroko taking Mikoto away from Touma but don't post the ones with Mitori and Misaki that's the plot for godsake!

Originally Posted by ACertainStark

Wait... what happened to seeing Misaki and Mitori do some stuff?

I guess that's the next arc...

Do you really think so? That's like asking what happened to Accelerator after his defeat or Touma's right hand in this manga

Originally Posted by OH&S

Well sucks that we can't confirm that the remaining clone is Full-Tuning (though by now its 90% confirmed).

Looks like isn't mentioned.

But what about Touma, Gunha and Mikoto interaction? What about the shadow metal mystery? What happened to Gensei?

Off screen as usual.

...At least we get the folk dance.

Kuroko hijacked this though

And with the conclusion of the Gremlin Saga in the light novels, it looks like we are about to move into new territory in the Index:NT light novels, Railgun manga and Accelerator manga. Exciting times.

I wonder and hope this manga skips right to the time after vol.13. Vol.15 to be precise.

[ACertainStark]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

As usual: the plot got dealt off screen, Mikoto doesn't knows about it nor tries to pursue the mattter about her clone, Gensei, Misaki or even Touma and the mc lives her life as usual no big change there.

Heck, all the plot build up to end it like this? It feels like I'm watching Kaminomi's manga again ........ orz


I don't think even Misaki can save this arc from going higher than a 6 or 7/10 but I need the scans for her part with Mitori, damn you Japan, why you post only the pages with Saten and Kuroko taking Mikoto away from Touma but don't post the ones with Mitori and Misaki that's the plot for godsake!


Do you really think so? That's like asking what happened to Accelerator after his defeat or Touma's right hand in this manga

Yeah you're right. This is Kamachi and he will bring it up volumes later.

Overall, it felt dragged on. The pacing was whack.

I'll go as far as to say Full-Tuning is for Index. Unless there are missing pages.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

I don't think even Misaki can save this arc from going higher than a 6 or 7/10 but I need the scans for her part with Mitori, damn you Japan, why you post only the pages with Saten and Kuroko taking Mikoto away from Touma but don't post the ones with Mitori and Misaki that's the plot for godsake!

Silly, didn't you know anything Mikoto x Touma (even them not being together) is the plot? What is this other nonsense you speak?

[chaosprophet]

Originally Posted by zaeraal

There is a summary already out, but no spoiler pics, so it could be fake. Read with caution!

Spoiler for summary - english:

(translated by someone in 4chan)

Mikoto returns to Kuroko and the others after the battle finally ends.
Kuroko and the others gets their memories back, but their most recent memories were altered such that they only remember about dealing with a terrorist that was targeting a convention that day, making for a lot of contradicting details.
With the help of Misaki, the Sisters recover from the virus attack. Mikoto mutters, "I think he's a creepy guy, but I'll eventually meet up with him anyway..." Then, Uiharu asks if her tummy is fine. Because of Misaki's memory alterations, Mikoto spends all day copped up in the toilet due to the food she ate in the stands.
Mikoto says, "Alright, time to kill(who?)"

The events of Daihaseisai are concluded in one page, and we are thrown into the last day of the festival.
Mikoto walks with her friends. As she buys some juice, a line of people separates her from the others and Ruiko realizes that she wants to give the folk dance a try. There, as if he decided it himself, Kamijou appears.
Touma tells Ruiko about giving something as gratitude for the Bring-Me Competition.
There, Mikoto comes back. Uiharu and Ruiko leave as soon as Mikoto becomes flustered at the sight of Touma.
Ruiko then asks Touma, "You want to do the folk dance together, right?"
Touma says OK and heads out. Mikoto is at a loss of words and was pushing Ruiko away, but Ruiko ends up staying. Mikoto was trembling hard, but Ruiko eventually pushes Mikoto into accepting the dance. With a beet-red face, Touma moves closer and holds Mikoto's hand to pull her close.

... not translated yet...

Episode 71 "Closing" Exit
New Chapter start from the October issue!

Spoiler for ch 71:

The part about the creepy is referring to Misaki. She basically goes "I thought she was a nasty person but maybe a day will come where we can compromise" and then after learning the past Misaki created for her friends she takes it back and goes about killing.

I'm really curious about the other clone because, if Misaki already knows where she is I don't think she was going to wait before doing it. She was also going to turn Mitori in after solving that issue.

Although maybe on next arc we will learn she went to where she was supposed to find the clone and it was abandoned. And Misaki may have yet to discover where she was taken.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by ACertainStark

Yeah you're right. This is Kamachi and he will bring it up volumes later.

Like Xochitl?

[pkmntrainer7]

Originally Posted by zaeraal

There is a summary already out, but no spoiler pics, so it could be fake. Read with caution!

Spoiler for summary - japanese:

バレ

戦いが終わり黒子たちの元に帰ってくる美琴。
黒子たちの記憶は元に戻っていたが、今日あった出来事は大会を狙ったテロリストを
捕まえるといった矛盾を起こしにくい内容に改ざんされていた。
妹達のウィルスは食蜂の働きで除去できた。美琴は（いけ好かないやつだと思ってたけど
いつか歩み寄れる日がくるのかも…）と胸中でつぶやく。すると初春が「お腹の具合は大丈夫なん ですか？」
と尋ねる。食蜂の記憶改ざんにより、美琴は屋台の食べ物に当たって一日中トイレに篭もりきりと
いうことにされていたのだ。
美琴（よし殺そう）

大覇星祭の競技内容は1ページで終了し、あっという間に最終日。
街を歩く美琴たち。美琴がジュースを買ってくるといって一行を離れると
佐天がフォークダンスをやっていることに気づく。するとそこに見計らったかのように上条登場。
上条さんは借り物競争の礼をいい、何かおごろうかと佐天にいう。
そこに美琴が戻ってくる。上条を見て慌てる美琴にピンとくる佐天と初春。
そして佐天は上条に「フォークダンスを一緒に踊ってくれませんか？」と持ちかける。
上条はOKし、先に行く。美琴がアワアワしていると、佐天がわざとらしくすっ転び、
自分の代わりに行ってくれないかと美琴に言う。動揺する美琴だったが、佐天の猛烈な押しで
結局了承。顔を真っ赤にして上条に詰めより、手を掴んで引っ張っていった。

フォークダンスをぎこちなく踊る二人。踊りながら美琴は上条に助けてもらった礼をいう。
そして、学園都市の嫌なところは許せないが、この街に来たからみんなに出会えたし、
その出会いが宝物になってて、今度はみんなを守りたいという。
上条はそっかーといい、御坂にとって俺との出会いは宝物かーと茶化す。
しかし突っ込むかと思われた美琴は顔を真赤にしてフリーズ状態、逆に上条も焦った
ところでタイムオーバー。黒子のテレポートドロップキックが上条の顔面に炸裂した。

71話「閉会」終了
新章スタートは10月号から！

Spoiler for summary - english:

(translated by someone in 4chan)

Mikoto returns to Kuroko and the others after the battle finally ends.
Kuroko and the others gets their memories back, but their most recent memories were altered such that they only remember about dealing with a terrorist that was targeting a convention that day, making for a lot of contradicting details.
With the help of Misaki, the Sisters recover from the virus attack. Mikoto mutters, "I think he's a creepy guy, but I'll eventually meet up with him anyway..." Then, Uiharu asks if her tummy is fine. Because of Misaki's memory alterations, Mikoto spends all day copped up in the toilet due to the food she ate in the stands.
Mikoto says, "Alright, time to kill(who?)"

The events of Daihaseisai are concluded in one page, and we are thrown into the last day of the festival.
Mikoto walks with her friends. As she buys some juice, a line of people separates her from the others and Ruiko realizes that she wants to give the folk dance a try. There, as if he decided it himself, Kamijou appears.
Touma tells Ruiko about giving something as gratitude for the Bring-Me Competition.
There, Mikoto comes back. Uiharu and Ruiko leave as soon as Mikoto becomes flustered at the sight of Touma.
Ruiko then asks Touma, "You want to do the folk dance together, right?"
Touma says OK and heads out. Mikoto is at a loss of words and was pushing Ruiko away, but Ruiko ends up staying. Mikoto was trembling hard, but Ruiko eventually pushes Mikoto into accepting the dance. With a beet-red face, Touma moves closer and holds Mikoto's hand to pull her close.

... not translated yet...

Episode 71 "Closing" Exit
New Chapter start from the October issue!

But if it is really the ending.. then how to describe my feelings?
Disappointment? I expected far more than that.
I hope that is not the real thing.

PS: if the part with next chapter is true, then there will be a 2 month hiatus?
This month is July issue, next is August, then September and then October issue which should come out 27.8. 2014

The "creepy guy" part is a mistranslation it was actually talking about Misaki.

Spoiler for Fixed part of summary:

Mikoto thinking "she is somebody that I have hard time with, but maybe the day that we will walk together (understand and help each other) will come soon.... in her heart.
Then, Uiharu asks if her tummy is fine. Because of Misaki's memory alterations, Mikoto spends all day copped up in the toilet due to the food she ate in the stands.
Mikoto says, "Alright, I will kill her"

[dniv]

Originally Posted by pkmntrainer7

The "creepy guy" part is a mistranslation it was actually talking about Misaki.

Spoiler for Fixed part of summary:

Mikoto thinking "she is somebody that I have hard time with, but maybe the day that we will walk together (understand and help each other) will come soon.... in her heart.
Then, Uiharu asks if her tummy is fine. Because of Misaki's memory alterations, Mikoto spends all day copped up in the toilet due to the food she ate in the stands.
Mikoto says, "Alright, I will kill her"

Lol. Sounds fun. The dance sounds fun. So I'm guessing the metal will be important in future arcs. So Gensei survived this arc...?!!! That would set up more interesting things soon enough. That's rather exciting.

[Acer]

NT 10, disappointing end - checked.
Railgun manga, Daihensai arc, silly end - checked.
Accelerator manga- awaiting.

I would give it an 8 for this arc if Mikoto had done something more important than just being a lab rat.

well, let's hope more information.

[Miraluka]

Well it ended, and as an ending it didn't closed properly the plot that build up leaving the rest to the (LN) readers to make it up themselves, the pace was dragging and there were chapters that were boring and they needed to add Gunha and Touma to raise up the hype, Misaki did well but got shafted at the end.

Decent arc but could have been better. 6/10

Originally Posted by zaeraal

I hope the entire chapter is not going to be flashback to Mitori.

As for the unresolved stuff:
- What will happen with the Shadow Metal?
- Why was Saten and Touma 's meeting skipped?
- What about the memories of Kuroko and co.?
- What is going to happen to Mitori and Gensei?
- Where is XOCHITL!!!?
- What about the unconscious Sister and Kongou?
- When is Mikoto going to have her dance with Touma?
- How is AC going to cover for destruction of tenths of buildings.
- Is Misaki going te get away just by jiggling her tits remote?
- Is Aleister going to do anything?

lol
Poor zaeraal

[Acer]

know, some people might think I'm being hater, but I never believed and do not believe that Aleister will appear in Railgun someday.

[ACertainStark]

Since I'm a Toumafag and Misaki's ripped Daihaiseisai outfit is a miracle of the universe... I gave it an 8.

Outside of that, the pacing was awful, those stupid 19 page chapters, I will never forget, lol. And if this truly ends it then it really resolved nothing... and I guess it'll just transfer over to Index. Which is kind of annoying.

[Death Usagi]

Makes me question why they released railgun as like 19 pages per chapter when that's like the length for weekly manga .__.

[GDB]

That's totally more than a weekly manga. Those are only 17 pages (if you include the cover page).

[zaeraal]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

Well it ended, and as an ending it didn't closed properly the plot that build up leaving the rest to the (LN) readers to make it up themselves, the pace was dragging and there were chapters that were boring and they needed to add Gunha and Touma to raise up the hype, Misaki did well but got shafted at the end.

Decent arc but could have been better. 6/10


lol
Poor zaeraal

Yeah, this ending has really killed it for me, I probably wont be willing to wait for the next arc anymore.
It had pretty much turned this decent arc into nothing more than a filler arc.
I probably should not have had any expectations in the first place.

[GDB]

To be fair, were you really expecting anything from an arc that took place a long time ago by novel standards? Usually when spinoffs cover events that far back, it's more of a "Hey, check this out" than "Hey, here's some important ramifications on the story proper!"

[dniv]

Well, at this point the greatest thing about last chapter, which I'll focus on, to look at the silver lining in all of this, is that indeed we now know railgun is going to continue for a lot longer since nothing got resolved. I see that as a good thing instead of a bad thing. It just means all of the plot threads are going to be more enmeshed and increase in magnitude until it eventually becomes relevant to the main plot.

That is rather exciting to me in all honestly. It also likely means that we'll either see more of Misaki/Mitori later on in Railgun, or they'll get their own spin-off story, which is in my eyes even better news.

I don't see why Kamachi would just leave it at that. He will mention these things again. It's a great feeling for me to know that there will be more great stuff later, than the feeling of a quick epic ending, and no more amazing stuff in the future.

This was a much better outcome to the alternative you guys were thinking about which really just would have ended up being disappointing.

(First logical thing I said all night...)

[RPG_Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Acer

know, some people might think I'm being hater, but I never believed and do not believe that Aleister will appear in Railgun someday.

This is a spin-off after all. I would be very surprised if he appeared at all.

Looking at the spoilers, this is actually the chapter I expected to see last month. I was surprised the manga took the time to give us Mitori's back story and her team up with Misaki. As others have said Railgun is the focus of this manga, so stuff like shadow metal and what Misaki/Mitori are doing behind the scene were never going to get touched on.

I doubt that Misaki/Mitori will appear as an anime original arc, since I doubt Misaki would want Mikoto to be involved. Shadow metal has a slight chance of being used in an original arc I think.

So this arc closes out with the folk dance as many of us expected. The most disappointing part for me was we never got to see Kuroko interact with Touma before her memory was reset. I will give this arc an 8. Touma appearing gave the final number a boost, but the pacing (short chapters) caused this arc to drag on longer than it should have.

I'm curious to see when the next arc is going to take place.