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rxrx · 2011-12-23, 09:29

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ZeroIchiNi · 2011-12-23, 10:09

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rxrx · 2011-12-23, 10:19

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Everyone as in the Future group, the A's group and everyone on the Asura?

btw I don't think I heard Lindy anywhere? did Chrono took over?

That's right. It is to prevent change to the future. No metion of Lindy, though Resti was mentioned. She was the one that asked for the twins to help.

Sunder the Gold · 2011-12-23, 11:08

But for the A's cast, it just makes it more unlikely that StrikerS is going to play out the same way as Vivio remembers it.

Sure, they didn't get a whole lot of information, but they're at least now going to be on the lookout for Vivio and Touma. Or at least react a lot differently when they run across them.

But the Materials leave and head for the far-distant future? That's convenient, but it seems TOO convenient and Status-Quo-Is-God for me.

EDIT: Wait, the A's cast think it's all a dream? That really is too damn convenient.

And who's "Resti"? Admiral Leti?

Kuze · 2011-12-23, 11:16

As a bit of a footnote, the Book of the Night Sky was really never designed to be separated into its core components through time. Which when you remember what happened the last time the Book had stuff done to it that it wasn't designed for.....

Sequel hooks. Sequel hooks everywhere.

bhl88 · 2011-12-23, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

But for the A's cast, it just makes it more unlikely that StrikerS is going to play out the same way as Vivio remembers it.

Sure, they didn't get a whole lot of information, but they're at least now going to be on the lookout for Vivio and Touma. Or at least react a lot differently when they run across them.

But the Materials leave and head for the far-distant future? That's convenient, but it seems TOO convenient and Status-Quo-Is-God for me.

EDIT: Wait, the A's cast think it's all a dream? That really is too damn convenient.

And who's "Resti"? Admiral Leti?

Or Nanoha won't become a mama

ZeroIchiNi · 2011-12-23, 11:48

Now that I think about it Amy's not there ether.

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rxrx · 2011-12-23, 11:51

The A's cast only remembered about the sisters and the book of the purple sky people. All trace of help they have were all erased, though Touma and Lily could remember some fighting skills they picked up so everything is fine.

Akiyoshi · 2011-12-23, 12:11

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About anti-magic, it explains that the divider was messed up during time-travel and it only comes back to full power in the last stage.

Well, that's fine i like that they give an explanation insted of weakening Tohma just for the sake of it. If Tohma's defense is already high while normal i'll guess he'll become a super tank xD!

...by the way, in the last game there was a specific ability for each of the characters with the exception of Unison Reinforce and The Materials. Here on G.O.D. there are several characters more than in BoA which left me wondering if there are new abilites for each new one or if the old set of abilities simply repet on some characters(i remember someone saying that einhart seems to have Signum's combo power for example).

Key Board · 2011-12-23, 12:13

but to began with, this is an alternate timeline where Reinforce Eins exist

As far we know it's not Vivio or Touma's future

at the very least, I'd assume StrikerS would turn out somewhat different if Reinforce was still there.
It means that Section 6 had one more Unison device to utilize.

Akiyoshi · 2011-12-23, 12:15

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Originally Posted by Key Board

but to began with, this is an alternate timeline where Reinforce Eins exist

As far we know it's not Vivio or Touma's future

at the very least, I'd assume StrikerS would turn out somewhat different if Reinforce was still there.
It means that Section 6 had one more Unison device to utilize.

Different timelines can be interconnected in some stories like Trunks future in Dragon Ball Z or the "Bad 1985" in Back to the Future II xD!

rxrx · 2011-12-23, 12:20

Just a off point, the sisters' dad is really a nice guy and brilliant scientist that could control himself from abusing very advance tech. I though he would be last boss so it is nice to have a reasonable dad for once.

Key Board · 2011-12-23, 12:37

but in the end, they did abuse the technology and use it to time travel

and that made the future better

there's some kind of broken aesop at work here xd

rxrx · 2011-12-23, 12:45

Not really.

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Key Board · 2011-12-23, 12:49

now that you mention it, the Sisters do remind me of Wild Arms

Question, though

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rxrx · 2011-12-23, 12:58

To anwser the question

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ZeroIchiNi · 2011-12-23, 13:16

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Just a off point, the sisters' dad is really a nice guy and brilliant scientist that could control himself from abusing very advance tech. I though he would be last boss so it is nice to have a reasonable dad for once.

in other words, he's a good version of Jail

ecs05norway · 2011-12-23, 16:38

Damnit, you people are making me wish I had a PSP.

Sunder the Gold · 2011-12-23, 18:22

The success or failure of using time travel doesn't determine whether or not an Aesop is broken, just as whether or not the creator of a technology's opinion regarding its use doesn't create an Aesop. An entire story has to be built in such a way as to laud or condemn something for that.

00-Raiser · 2011-12-23, 18:32

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Damnit, you people are making me wish I had a PSP.

You can pick one up pretty cheap.

2011-12-23, 09:29	Link #1101
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Spoiler for Spoiler for ending: More like the sisters did a memory seal to all of them regarding the existence of the gang from the future to prevent unwanted changes. The only memory left were about the sisters and the Book of the Purple Sky gang.

2011-12-23, 11:48	Link #1107
ZeroIchiNi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	Now that I think about it Amy's not there ether. Spoiler for ending: I guess that the A's group would at least remember that they had a small help from the future. Just not who and how. Well they know about what happened to the sisters and the Material group. As for the Vivid and Force group remembering it as a dream. The sisters were involved in it too I guess.

2011-12-23, 12:13	Link #1110
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	but to began with, this is an alternate timeline where Reinforce Eins exist As far we know it's not Vivio or Touma's future at the very least, I'd assume StrikerS would turn out somewhat different if Reinforce was still there. It means that Section 6 had one more Unison device to utilize. __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-12-23, 12:37	Link #1113
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	but in the end, they did abuse the technology and use it to time travel and that made the future better there's some kind of broken aesop at work here xd __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-12-23, 12:45	Link #1114
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Not really. Spoiler for ending: The world is still dying, the Prof. died in a year after the sisters return with the gang of the book of the purple sky. Things MIGHT get better, but it is more like the seeds are planted but how it would go from there no one knows. Heck, it is almost like Wild Arms.

2011-12-23, 11:08	Link #1104
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	But for the A's cast, it just makes it more unlikely that StrikerS is going to play out the same way as Vivio remembers it. Sure, they didn't get a whole lot of information, but they're at least now going to be on the lookout for Vivio and Touma. Or at least react a lot differently when they run across them. But the Materials leave and head for the far-distant future? That's convenient, but it seems TOO convenient and Status-Quo-Is-God for me. EDIT: Wait, the A's cast think it's all a dream? That really is too damn convenient. And who's "Resti"? Admiral Leti?

2011-12-23, 11:16	Link #1105
Kuze Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	As a bit of a footnote, the Book of the Night Sky was really never designed to be separated into its core components through time. Which when you remember what happened the last time the Book had stuff done to it that it wasn't designed for..... Sequel hooks. Sequel hooks everywhere.

2011-12-23, 11:51	Link #1108
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	The A's cast only remembered about the sisters and the book of the purple sky people. All trace of help they have were all erased, though Touma and Lily could remember some fighting skills they picked up so everything is fine.

2011-12-23, 12:20	Link #1112
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Just a off point, the sisters' dad is really a nice guy and brilliant scientist that could control himself from abusing very advance tech. I though he would be last boss so it is nice to have a reasonable dad for once.

2011-12-23, 12:49	Link #1115
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	now that you mention it, the Sisters do remind me of Wild Arms Question, though Spoiler: How was U-D supposed to be the solution to things? Does she have terraforming powers or something? __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2011-12-23, 12:58	Link #1116
rxrx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	To anwser the question Spoiler for U-D: Her core is believed to do that, though Kyrie admitted that such a chance is close to zero. The fun thing is in the ending, that is what she is trying to do to heal the land while the rest of the materials help in thir own way.

2011-12-23, 16:38	Link #1118
ecs05norway Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	Damnit, you people are making me wish I had a PSP.

2011-12-23, 18:22	Link #1119
Sunder the Gold Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	The success or failure of using time travel doesn't determine whether or not an Aesop is broken, just as whether or not the creator of a technology's opinion regarding its use doesn't create an Aesop. An entire story has to be built in such a way as to laud or condemn something for that.