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Old 2008-02-20, 00:11   Link #20161
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S&W: *lying in smoking crater*

Such a lovely sce-

*Mai >>> S&W*

Mai: Urusai.

... ureshii.

S&W, ever tactless, brave to a fault.


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Yes, she needs mana replenishment... lots of it

*RUNS*

From all angles! *runs like hell*


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Yup, out of all the Gundams Exia was, and still is my fave since day one
Kokoro Tomoyo!


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The Seto No Hanayome Iincho
Oh...I'm too used to thinking of the shoutacon one whenever I hear Iincho.


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Spoiler for Why not both?:


*runs*

*clicks and save quickly* I shall remember this kind deed! *cries tears of joy*


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Yep

Having Soma along would be a bonus

*runs*

The old man and his loli girl.


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lol @ pun.



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mmm, Delicious Etna- *SHOT*
Rozalin is more delicious- *speared by tsun-tsun mode Etna*
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Old 2008-02-20, 00:46   Link #20162
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The cloaked figures... if you need a comparison, then I have one word: SEELE.
Aaaah

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I agree with those points. I will contend that Nanoha isn't inept at melee, but we've had that discussion many times now.

To compare using Star Wars of all things: Hayate is the B-cup, Nanoha is the X-cup, and Fate is the A-cup.
FIXED

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*Diabolic Emission >>> Lowe*

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The end of all? Or the beginning of a new chapter? You decide.

TEARS OF THE NORTHERN WIND
EPILOGUE


Spoiler for part 1:


Spoiler for part II:


Well, this is it. Now that Tears of Northern Wind has come to its end, I can now begin my OC rebuilding starting with some of the key characters for the upcoming stories (I'll use Kha's character rebuilding setup as basis).

And fret not, for there is always the DVD Special following. Guaranteed to contain less censorship and more fanservice.

*runs*
And Tears of the Northern Wind ends on a very good note with a touching reuinion and a mock battle, good end

Though I'd like to see what Hayate got out of that Lolita shop, and DVD Special please

*runs*


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S&W, ever tactless, brave to a fault.
As always

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From all angles! *runs like hell*
And All Positions!

*Runs Faster*

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Kokoro Tomoyo!


See how for the past year I haven't changed my Avi to anything but Exia? That's how much I like the thing

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*clicks and save quickly* I shall remember this kind deed! *cries tears of joy*
Glad to have been of service

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I FINALLY FOUND IT!!!!!!

Slightly relevant for the next part of Mayura's profile later...

Spoiler for Kamen Rider Fate:
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Old 2008-02-20, 01:14   Link #20163
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And Tears of the Northern Wind ends on a very good note with a touching reunion and a mock battle, good end

Though I'd like to see what Hayate got out of that Lolita shop, and DVD Special please

*runs*
Ah, it would be a part of her plan to conquer the world have a cosplay party. In before Desu Lamia Signum.

But as always, details will be revealed through our DVD Special.

*runs*

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I FINALLY FOUND IT!!!!!!

Slightly relevant for the next part of Mayura's profile later...

Spoiler for Kamen Rider Fate:


*cue Let's Go!! Rider Kick*

*cries blood* I APPROVE OF SUCH CLOTHES-RIPPING TRANSFORMATION!!!!

Naked Fate & Signum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USB500
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Old 2008-02-20, 01:20   Link #20164
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Okay, tentative, but I did a little research to line up some things while working on Roland.


Spoiler for Maj. General William Roland:


This is tentative, I'll probably need to clean it up somewhat.
But he has to have a decent history to earn the position and rank he has.

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Old 2008-02-20, 01:25   Link #20165
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I'm having a hard time with the current fights I'm writing; which are the Aurion vs. Hayate mock battle and the Grandis vs. Signum real battle...
Is it too late to comment on this? This looks fun. I am taking a masochistic attitude already to 7Arcs' treatment of Hayate...

Ultimately, the thread decides, and I see that most people are desperately trying to forget the canon in every way possible, so it is going to pass, but for what its worth, here's my more canonically-based take.

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Range Attack:
Hayate is almost an all-out range attacker. As opposed to her usual nukes in most engagements, she uses Bloody Dagger and at times, Tesla's Blitzschlag in attacking one-to-one. I'm seriously considering giving her a slightly bigger spell for smaller engagements... but I can only think of Divine Buster (absorbed skill); but it doesn't seem to fit her style at all! I think I should make a new spell... And no, I don't think she would need an eternity just to cast something as simple as Photon Lancers or Divine Shooters if ever. Just a bit slower would do. (around 155% casting time compares to original users)
Quite frankly, this is entirely the wrong approach for Hayate. "Range attack" should be separated as Hectometric and Decametric.

Hayate actually has a precious near Ownership over the Hectometric range covering into the Kilometric. I'm not sure how much h3xx went into the OCs but if we just take canon combat (which this thread is supposed to align to), people that can even SHOOT to the hectometric ranges are rare (never mind actually hitting). It was considered an impossible shot to shoot to ~100m (Ep5 A's). The only other character who undisputedly shot to hectometrics was Dieci (and she's a borg shooting at a helo). Hayate, on the other hand, has that as a regular battle zone.

Without Reinforce, she'll probably lack long-range sensors that will support attacks to the kilometric depth, but a hectometric shoot by eye is still possible (teach her how to use a stadiametric rangefinder so she knows whether to detonate the rounds at 500 or 600m). SO when possible, she should in fact stay at range where her opponent can't even reply and use her huge magical reserve to area bombard her opponent into submission.

Frankly, the best way for Hayate to cover her decametric butt within the bounds of known abilities, IMO, is simply to eliminate easy access to the decametric - the "Wall of Steel" approach. Raise a shield, then Fire Hraesvelgr or Diabolic Emission at her own position. That won't win simulated fights, but in a RL situation will buy time for others to come and pick her chestnuts out of the fire.

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She's not good. She is NOT good in melee. And it'll stay that way. BUT. It's only in comparison to the likes of Signum and the others. She did say that she was no good. But frankly, I am not buying it wholely. So does she mean that she lacks so much skill that a kid civilian who just happens to know how to use a staff beat her?! HECK NO!!! I've been thinking about it a lot. And I've theorized that she is actually good, if only to be compared to normal people who don't fight in battles instead of Knights who are specialists. So she should already have knowledge to begin with, plus a year of improving upon it with Tesla's help. Is it fine if she actually does better than higher-ranked grunts at staff-fighting?
Theorizing will require the use of at least one canon observation for a base. Since you didn't propose any and I don't remember any, wouldn't fantasizing be more appropriate? They were pretty final with the whole Lose to Carol thing (and no, I don't think she was joking at all given the context - I must wonder what "facial expressions" the pro-joke crowd expected for a non-joke response. Rein is sighing in utter despair, and Teana is desperate to leave because she obviously touched a sore spot). They didn't just restrict it to melee, just one on one (which includes melee).

However, I will grant that given 2 years of work, she could improve to adequacy, but see below.

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She's rather fragile physically, since that's to be expected from her role. Not to mention completely lazing out of her physical training ([sarcasm]Um, hello? Do you even so much as STRETCH in the morning?! Push-ups?![/sarcasm] I know she's the Butaichou there, as well as being limite to A; [which, for all it's worth, held no value other than to write her out effectively off all save two battles {the last one being a lovely chock of vidclips showing Hayate floating around and nothing more}], but c'mon!) in StrikerS while everyone else sans Shamal (nurse/doctor) and Zafira (butler dog) were into so much training every single day for an entire year! But she's still in better shape than most normal people. (You just don't jump down from the top of a vehicle like it was nothing, like shown in StrikerS ep. 2) I'd give her some stamina as well; hopefully within reasonable bounds. I do hope it's fine if I said she's physically tougher than Shamal.
I suppose that's OK, but you might look at it from another angle. It might actually have been less of a character assassination for Hayate to have neglected her melee skills for so long if her body isn't really up to practicing the body moves required for melee. Maybe we don't see her exercising because she gets exhausted within 5 minutes of exercise.

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Here's the clincher in my story. No matter how much you say you lack in skill and dificulty in processing magic, having a crapload of mana while having weak magical defenses = DOES NOT COMPUTE! Does she really have a hard time tapping into her power so much that she would need an incantation for casting a simple shield?! I sure as hell don't think so and I'm totally not buying it until canon states otherwise. So in my story, her natural magical defenses are very good and hard to crack; at least requiring A-ranked (think Thunder Smasher of loli-Fate without cartridges) or above attack power to so much as properly hurt her minimally. Is it fine?
Actually, it does compute. The canon actually suggests that magical defenses are really more about Proper Construction than Raw Power, which is why Yunno has great shields despite being an A-rank. Since Hayate has problems with magical precision and speed, it is entirely possible that even with lots of power, she cannot construct it into an adequate architecture. You don't need an excess of material to make a strong bridge - you need good design and good construction, otherwise, you have a pile of concrete.

Losing to Caro actually does require severe difficulties in Hayate's magical defense.

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Okay... She should be at least smart enough to last against even someone like Tesla for a while. I do hope nobody finds any problems with this. She actually sees thru a number of Aurion's battle plans in the fly.
You are really fighting the canon now... if we blow away all her single combat weaknesses to an emphasis on becoming a Commander, and StrikerS is the result, what is your basis for saying she's going to improve to Good/Excellent in just two extra years.

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I'll give her good speed, but not good agility. So flying in a linear path should be no problem while high-speed maneuvering is not good enough so she should compensate with her defenses.
Good speed is fine, but I suggest poor acceleration (which is related to agility) and a slow-ramp up (consider a steam boiler plant versus a gas turbine plant).

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I gave her Tiara, so she now has an access to some spells by voice command ala-Reinforce. It's fine, right? Tiara's AI is passive, not unlike the original YnS so there should be no RH or Bardiche-like auto-saves for Hayate. Her spellcasting should be marginally better now as well, but she won't compare too well against Aurion since he can cast spells FAST.
I suggest you beef up Tiara. Hayate is locked thanks to canon, but Tiara is your creation. Blame every improvement you want to make in spellcasting and decametric combat on Tiara's "improved magic control".

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I dont see any problems with this, and in fact I agree with most of what you have here. The thing is, this is just a mock battle - I dont see what's so important about it. In the real battlefield, Hayate shouldnt need to actually fight (especially in close combat, since she is not particularly good at it, and she knows it) if she properly commands her unit, unless absolutely necessary, or her Knights are not with her. What I'm trying to say is, arent you thinking too much about this? She is supposed to be a ranged support, not a melee aggressor, after all. It is what makes her Hayate and not Nanoha.

As I have said before, Hayate CHOSE to be support and to become a Lt. Colonel to lead troops into battle instead of fighting the battles herself. She had the potential to choose whatever path she wanted - to become an Enforcer like Fate, or to become an "Aggressor" like Nanoha - but she chose otherwise. You can give Hayate quite a lot of character development without making her go into the battlefield - and I actually may have a scenario coming with a little of that.
Emphasis is one thing. Not beating Caro is another. Second, a good officer is prepared for all eventualities (such as the enemy having brains of their own, or an unfavorable tactical situation). Third, the ultimate shaft is that she isn't even that good of a commander.

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But Nanoha is VERY different from Hayate. She is a frontline aggressor and constantly takes part of missions, unlike Hayate, who most of the time sits back and commands her unit, only few times actually leaving HQ for the battle field (when she is needed), as we have seen in StrikerS. Since Aaron's scenarios take place 2 years after StrikerS, then Hayate must be worse than before (as in very rusty), given her position as a Lt. Colonel.

And just to make it clear, my favorite ace is Hayate. While Aaron feels the need to develop her further (something that I also want), I feel the need to make sure she stays as Hayate. One of the reasons why Hayate is my favorite Ace, and I would dare say favorite character, is that she actually has weaknesses. Probably you guys wont feel the same as me, but I feel that Nanoha and Fate are way too perfect. They are both good at everything, they dont make any mistakes, all their decisions are correct, and stuff. They are just 19 years old, and yet there is not much room for character development in regards to their combat abilities, and even power, since they have already reached almost unreachable ranks by TSAB standards (S+ and above). There is just room for developments such as how to become a mother and crap ... at 19 years old ... Not saying that those developments are automatically crap, just that a 19 year old girl should be doing other stuff.

Well, that became a small rant, sorry about that. And for the record, the above was not directed at Keroko - dont want to cause any trouble.
While Aaron made a superb defense here, I'll still like to object to the idea that adult Nanoha and Fate were portrayed as "flawless". When you consider their jobs, all three of them arguably failed miserably. Hayate's failures as a commander are too rehashed in episode threads to recount here (just search for posters "arkhangelsk" or "Mirificus" in those threads and you'll immediately be on a Hayate-bashing discussion)

How much progress did Fate make as an Investigator? None visible. Verossa might make a one line note of Fate and Nakajima's investigation, but from the screen, you might as well conclude that Verossa solved in 5 mintues what Fate couldn't solve for half a year.

Nanoha as a trainer ... well, she was forced to shoot Teana. Ironically, Teana was arguably the best-developed of the four. The rest of them grew in combat skills, but psychologically and tactically they are still... sigh. They don't even have discipline.

In decisions, what about that near-tragic decision to split up inside the Cradle. If what happened could actually be called a success, Hayate is a great commander.

Fate has horrible moral-psychological preparation for combat, as proved when Scarlietti nearly broke her. Only a lame lovey scene saved her from defeat. Pathetic if you ask me.

The difference is that Nanoha and Fate actually had strengths and 7Arcs doesn't seem so intent to make it look like they aren't even trying.
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Old 2008-02-20, 01:31   Link #20166
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Old 2008-02-20, 01:31   Link #20167
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Caro: THE SCREAMS OF SCRIN ECHOING THROUGHOUT THE GALAXY!

Both: THE UNISON OF BLACK & WHITE!

VOLTAI-AMPERE!

ORETACHI O DARE DA TO OMOETTE YAGARU?!



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This was funny. Really. Tomoyo = Keroko is one funny thought, simply because it brings up the question who's Sunohara.

<-- *ships Sunomoyo in the anime. Really, Kyoto Animation should've somehow, someway change aspects of Tomoyo's route, Mei's route and Sunohara's route combined and replace Tomoya with Sunohara in Tomoyo's route, rather than that cop-out.*

I'll take Okazaki Tomoya divided by 2 as well, like KimiKiss.
Same here!

As for Keroko's Sunohara, remember those times Keroko'd just bash Kha up for saying the wrong things?

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-_- -__- -___- -____- -______-

It was fine... until the lulz mecha part. That was seriously crack. I can almost accept if you say Voltaire has some sort of jewel on his head in which Caro is required to offer her conscious by floating unconscious there, Voltaire's strength and will obeying her mental link, but actually piloting is...
[Joker]"Why the loong face?" [/Joker]



No actually, I was thinking of a proper one.

This is in reply to everyone who've given great feedback about Eva-Voltaire:

That plug like cockpit and sentai plug suit was to see the limit of mechanization I can go actually, since I feel that it's proper, and that Caro isn't piloting Voltaire, but rather acting like a Pokemon Trainer commanding her Pokemon, but from inside the Pokemon and sometimes fighting along with it like G-Gundam.

Never mind, I'll patch the visuals proper later. We can always fix these things in the DVD right...? ... ... ...



And I didn't want to use the MKR design because that was for later, when Caro used Dragon Soul Summon to bring out Shin-Voltaire, as I feel that would've been a more fitting tribute, not using it on a lesser version of the Dragon Lord.

Shin-Gattai would also then be the another time the kids see each other naked. But I guess they're used to it by then yeah?

*RUNS*

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The mention of RyuOhKi, Gun x Sword (cue music) and TEH HEALTH DRINK makes me go and

So does this mean Kusuha Caro only needs to use her tonic to win the battle? .
Vice agrees.

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Keroko-chan:
*a dark aura apears around Keroko* Then I'll have to re-eductate you.

Arcas:
O-oi, wait, wait!

*the camera pans out as Keroko-chan advances on Arcas, while at the same time, many Air Force mages feel a chill run down their spine*

Wes: ... Did you feel that?

Tycho:
Yes, like a single voice crying out in terror, before suddenly stopping.

The Air Force mages prayed for the poor soul that had just insulted instructor Takamachi Keroko's teachings.

(Bad move Arcas, Keroko takes neglecting her teachings much more violently then Nanoha. )
...

Scratch that, Arcas = Sunohara.

*RUNS*

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You mean Tesla and Griffith gaming? Or Tesla dreaming of Keroko-tan?
I think both.

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When I started this, I thought 'wow, this profile is surprisingly devoid of crack'

Then I came to the mecha part, and realized I jinxed it.

Remember that firm line I drew? You just stepped over it. Voltaire is a summoned creature, not a mecha. Hell, even Nighty's jewel thing sounds better then going 'lol, mecha'
...and I was looking for it. :3

Patch in a while!

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Pray do tell we are not talking about F/SN mana replenishing methods, are we?
Oh of course not! We gotta think of the children! It'll just be... rather intriguing, inneudo-ish but perfectl SFW. I've done that before in a CCS fic, and now I'm applying it, polished and improved, to the Nanohaverse.

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Sunomoyo... now that I think about it, that is somethingI'd like to see.
So do I! Seriously, the guy deserves it!

<--- first hand experience.


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Sounds good to me. Does Artei look differently now, though?
He's still the same grown up Nagi dai Artai.

Btw, there's been another change last night. I gave Kha and Fate more time to develop their ship, therefore making the previous mini-series before Nanoha/Cente Gravia more like real harem anime.

That means, it's all free game, even Nanoha and Keroko included, until they turn 16 and Nanoha/Cente Gravia goes into full swing.

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"Cente Gravia"... How do you come up with these names...

Who will be Sophia's love interest now?
Bad Latin.

Kha all the way, even into StrikerS, and because of Teana, a lot more open too. :3

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Who cares? Erio doesnt have to have Kha's blood for his hair to change to white. It would serve as an interesting WTF-ANOTHER-KHA scenario.

And so you thought about Shaman King as well, huh? Nice. The stuff about Shamans sure is crackish though. At least it can be an excuse for how he is able to get along so well with Fried and Garyuu... and maybe other dragons...
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...
...

[Crack]

Erio's Summon Creature is Ampere, the White Tiger Queen.

Caro can invoke just Voltaire's spirit like a Magic Knight so that he becomes her armor and sword.

Erio, invoking Ampere, would then turn his hair white, apart from changing Barrier Jacket to Knight Armor.

[/Crack]

Good point there! I always knew Erio was good with creatures, like a Shaman of elemental spirits is! I almost got run over by crack of Erio doing a Hao by summoning the Spirit of Fire, but I think Spirit of Thunder, however h4xx, would fit him better.



*RUNS*


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I see a few references like gun x sword, FMA, Haruhi and megaman battle network i think. Like the rest, I thought the amount of crack would be low until I reached the limit break part... Why oh why must you turn Voltaire into a mecha and an Evangelion at that? :facepalm: Couldn't you use something else like the Mashin (Rune Gods) from Magic Knight Rayearth? Even though those are also mecha, its at least isn't a science-type mecha.
THe LIMIT BREAK has always been cracky, just to keep the trend.

And we have a winner! You hit the jackpot with the Mashin; I wanted to use them for a later arc after StrikerS.

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  • Regarding Kha's idea with Voltaire, I second tshouryuu's idea of altering him after MKR's Mashin. It's in line with the Mahou Shoujo concept, and still allows you to play with mecha ideas (somewhat). Maybe you can even consider how Wataru "pilots" Ryujinmaru in Majin Eiyuden as well. Of course, the choice is still yours.
I know.

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Ah... Since I'm here:
Spoiler for Random WIP stuff:
KO-ARCHER!!!

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG...

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  • @Folks that like Archer-ko: We can't have Archer without his imouto, no? Wonder what Kha's reaction will be .
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Archer-ko? Kha's imouto?
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Now that I think of it, why didn't Kha port her over?
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ARCHER-KO!!!!!! KAKKOI!!!
Good thing I held back when I did; now Kha's real imouto can appear under someone else's creation!

In case no one did, this was the secret clause I prepared:
Spoiler for Spoiler! Spoiler!:
Even though Ko-Archer appears, I guess she isn't Kha's imouto, ne?

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Fate's main weakness seems to be defense. We hardly ever see her tanking full blows, and if she does its mostly back support.


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It started out as an ambitious idea of Kha to rewrite the enitre StrikerS story into something that could be concidered a good season, rather then a good season, but filled with a lot of plotholes/scripterrors etc. etc. Somewhere along the line though... it seems it turned into one giant crackfest.

In hindsight, we should have seen that coming from the start...
Hey have some faith. It's only crack at the character level. My plots, apart from inneudoes, have always been very original...

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So that's just Kha being Kha and turning anything he sets his sight on into crack, huh?

Ok, I get it now. Thanks Keroko-kun
Te- OI! MATTE!

She's gone off with the wrong impression... T_T

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Neither am I. Though...

In retrospect, WHAT THE HECK DID I JUST TYPE THIS EARLY MORNING?!?!?!

Oh my God! This is too embarrassing!

*hides head in ground ala-ostritch*

It was tiredness! I was just temporarily loosened by the force of Income Taxation...>.> beforehand! My screws were just loosened! I'm inooccceeeeeeennnntttt!!!!!!!!!! T_T
Aaron is swimming in a river in Egypt.

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And do I see a certain bear around here back after so long?
*Yuuno sneezes for the umpteenth time*

Yuuno: I'm started to be really bothered by this bug.

Arf: You know, it's a 97th superstition that when you sneeze, someone is talking bad about you.

Yuuno:



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S&W: *lying in smoking crater*

Such a lovely sce-

*Mai >>> S&W*

Mai: Urusai.

... ureshii.
Taiyo: Ano... What did that last bit mean?

<--- Can't speak his mother tongue.

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That it does

"People call this, the GRAHAM SPECIAL!!!"



Graham should come back and show the Aces who's the real deal. After all, having retired means he's no longer tied to a desk!

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Whiffy indeed

I thought Caro'd be tame compared to your other Rebuilds until PLUG SUIT CARO FTW!!!!

*ehem*

Nice refs there, although the Winry and GunxSword ref caught me off guard

Although I agree, even I find the thought of Caro piloting Voltaire as a mech strange

Slight nit though... couldn't you have found a BETTER IMAGE of Asuka in a plugsuit?

*runs*
I'm working more on the Rockbell Arm and the other things she can do with it, but that'll be later when Kha recalls his time helping one Alphonse Elric.

Yeah it's supposed to be changed. The patch will show.

Thank you.

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Spoiler for Why not both?:


*runs*
Karin: Wang Liu Mei and... Who's that?
"Wang":

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I SHALL SET ASIDE REASON WITH MY RECKLESSNESS!!!

Although hell no... as you can see, he's still alive isn't he?

Turing: You forget, I'm immortal
In the Nanohaverse, the little girls are really dangerous, and the old men really never die.

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Ah, you mean something like this?

Spoiler for MOERO RESCUE TAMASHII!!!!:


Sou. And including Erio and Lutecia they are the Summon-rangers.

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True <_<

Asagi: But did you know, many of the the female sentais were played by MALE stunt actors? Like Yuuichi Hachisuka who plays 10 female rangers including MagiMother and BoukenYellow
Why that tone remind me of Nagi doing her end of episode DID YOU KNOW?

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Choushinsei then?

Spoiler for Have a Dolcross:
Erio & Caro: Voltai-Ampere is not enough! We need Dolcross power, now!

Lutecia: Hakutenoh, Zord Soul Summon! MODE CHANGE!

All 3: SYMMETRICAL DOCKING!!!

SUMMONER MEGAZORD!


*runs very very fast*

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*Kha wakes up in boat*

Kha: Not again...

Mai: ...

You're coming with me.

We're going to Hell.
Kha: Looks like the frequent flyer miles earned me a spot in the boat this time...

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BOTH, though more on the former

Tesla and Griffith make a cute cou-

*radio static*
Lowe? Lowe! Come in!

...

Did Keroko-tan get a Throne?

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Yes, we need more girls in mini-skirted cheongsams

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ATC, it's been mentioned repeatedly that Earth is Non-Administratred World 97. This is canon.
How the hell do I keep getting it backwards?

*Haruhi DAMMIT!*

EDIT: Fixed.
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FIXED

...

...

*Diabolic Emission >>> Lowe*
Fate... A-Cup...

...
...
...

Hehe...

I guess I've been a submissive boke for too long...

Time to show you my variation of Unlimited Saber Works...

TASTE THY HOT BLOOD!



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I
The difference is that Nanoha and Fate actually had strengths and 7Arcs doesn't seem so intent to make it look like they aren't even trying.
In regards to the whole thing, I really only have to say this: The reason that these things seem ridiculous to us is because we at least have a clue when it comes to stuff like this. 7arcs doesn't know shit about shit when it comes to tactics and whatnot; they only did what they thought was right, which, as people like me and you can see, is utter crap.

For the splitting up thing, if it were me... I think I'd allow it, but not solo. That'll get you killed. I mean, I know the ship is big, but bring some reinforcements! Squads of 4-6 each covering both ends IMO, would have been about right.
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O_o?


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In regards to the whole thing, I really only have to say this: The reason that these things seem ridiculous to us is because we at least have a clue when it comes to stuff like this. 7arcs doesn't know shit about shit when it comes to tactics and whatnot; they only did what they thought was right, which, as people like me and you can see, is utter crap.
If only we could storm the Island Nation and give them pointers...

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For the splitting up thing, if it were me... I think I'd allow it, but not solo. That'll get you killed. I mean, I know the ship is big, but bring some reinforcements! Squads of 4-6 each covering both ends IMO, would have been about right.
You mean?! *GASP!*

Bring in RED SHIRTS?!

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Ah, it would be a part of her plan to conquer the world have a cosplay party. In before Desu Lamia Signum.

But as always, details will be revealed through our DVD Special.

*runs*
We shall be waiting

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*cue Let's Go!! Rider Kick*

*cries blood* I APPROVE OF SUCH CLOTHES-RIPPING TRANSFORMATION!!!!

Naked Fate & Signum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USB500


Chrono's recommendation should be approved by Senate

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Okay, tentative, but I did a little research to line up some things while working on Roland.


Spoiler for Maj. General William Roland:


This is tentative, I'll probably need to clean it up somewhat.
But he has to have a decent history to earn the position and rank he has.
...

...



John Wayne?!?!?!?!?



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Erio: BREAKING ALL BACKLOG WITH OUR HELD HANDS!
Caro: THE SCREAMS OF SCRIN ECHOING THROUGHOUT THE GALAXY!

Both: THE UNISON OF BLACK & WHITE!

VOLTAI-AMPERE!

ORETACHI O DARE DA TO OMOETTE YAGARU?!

ELECTRIFYING

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In case no one did, this was the secret clause I prepared:
Spoiler for Spoiler! Spoiler!:
Even though Ko-Archer appears, I guess she isn't Kha's imouto, ne?
Oh my head...

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*Yuuno sneezes for the umpteenth time*

Yuuno: I'm started to be really bothered by this bug.

Arf: You know, it's a 97th superstition that when you sneeze, someone is talking bad about you.

Yuuno:



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Taiyo: Ano... What did that last bit mean?

<--- Can't speak his mother tongue.
It mean's she's glad

Mai: ...

*watches Emili and Naomi*

... suteki...




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Graham should come back and show the Aces who's the real deal. After all, having retired means he's no longer tied to a desk!
And he'll show them the power of a Being that Surpasses Asura!!!

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I'm working more on the Rockbell Arm and the other things she can do with it, but that'll be later when Kha recalls his time helping one Alphonse Elric.
Alphonse? HERE?

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Karin: Wang Liu Mei and... Who's that?
"Wang":


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In the Nanohaverse, the little girls are really dangerous, and the old men really never die.
Regius: Speak for yourself

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Sou. And including Erio and Lutecia they are the Summon-rangers.
Asagi: Tsukaima Sentai Shoukangers?

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Erio & Caro: Voltai-Ampere is not enough! We need Dolcross power, now!

Lutecia: Hakutenoh, Zord Soul Summon! MODE CHANGE!

All 3: SYMMETRICAL DOCKING!!!

SUMMONER MEGAZORD!


*runs very very fast*


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Lowe? Lowe! Come in!

...

Did Keroko-tan get a Throne?
I think she did

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"Your Command is my Wish."


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Fate... A-Cup...

...
...
...

Hehe...

I guess I've been a submissive boke for too long...

Time to show you my variation of Unlimited Saber Works...

TASTE THY HOT BLOOD!



*LoweGear is sent flying*
Now that's a fiiiiiiiiiirst....

*dissapears into night sky*
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Chrono's recommendation should be approved by Senate

*RUNS*
If that's the case, that means the Brains did something right for once.

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ELECTRIFYING
It was Voltaire's fault.

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Oh my head...
"Drink more electrolytes. Battery water is a good start."

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It mean's she's glad

Mai: ...

*watches Emili and Naomi*

... suteki...


Gwen... Emili... Naomi... In a room.

Very very dangerous.

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And he'll show them the power of a Being that Surpasses Asura!!!
As long we don't mind an old man taking 10G turns I'm game for bringing him in as part of the Field Fighters. They fight AMFs see.

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Alphonse? HERE?
One of the many transdimensional characters that we'll never see and that Kha has stolen from.

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Regius: Speak for yourself
I forgot, when they do die, it's more epic.

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Asagi: Tsukaima Sentai Shoukangers?


Caro, Erio, Lutecia:

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Now that's a fiiiiiiiiiirst....

*dissapears into night sky*
Yes... By progressing through Fate Stay Night at unlimited amounts of times within a sec, uncovering more and more of the hidden pictures, the sheer dere-Saka moegaton yields will blow your mind, rendering you completely devoid of fighting will! Your innate desires will consume you! And then you shall DIE as despair sets in! HAHAHAHAHA...!


~~~New Intelligence Data Updated~~~


I made some changes to Caro's problematic Limiter Break using what I dreamed of originally, and from the suggestions made. Here's the sample:
Spoiler for Limiter Break:
Is this better?
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I'm generally up for plugging my own story, linked in my sig: Lyrical Babel. It's still a working title, since I can't come up with anything catchier.

Problem is that I'm just about two-thirds of the way through Chapter 3, and it's getting even more talky. It's pretty much a pure infodump, with the first half being a meeting between the 37th and Verossa, and the second half an explanation of that meeting. I need to get that information out, but I don't know how else to do it without too much filler.

-

Personally, my reasons for not replying to works are just as follows:

Chiefly, I'm used to giving actual detailed feedback. This means that every single word will be scrutinized, and I'll point out every spelling or grammatical error. I'll point out trivial plot holes, argue about writing styles, and generally take the whole thing very seriously. (Mind you, I also make suggestions for improvement; if I can't personally think of a way to improve something, even if I don't like it, I leave it be.)

That approach does not seem suited for this thread.

I usually keep my opinions to myself, because even though I'd be overjoyed if someone did the same to me, I don't know if anyone else here will be as welcoming of having their hard work ripped to shreds. And if they happen to be having a Bad Day, I don't want to be the one they take it out on.

In addition, I'm pretty much the opposite of a military nut, in that I don't personally feel comfortable with the whole military direction the Nanoha-verse took with StrikerS, and I don't like the inherent implication of all the weapons and tactics, that they are meant for war. It may be justified defense, but it's conflict all the same. Conflict in which people get hurt, when everything is solved at the negotiating table anyway. The only times they aren't are wars of genocide, which is far too heavy for me to read about.

It's a personal thing.

And finally, I've mentioned before many times, starting from my very first post in this thread (which I hijacked and changed anyway), but in a lot of the works I'm seeing, there seems to be an inherent understanding that we know what significance certain references hold.

I have nothing against references, but I do have something against calling them references when they're actually crossovers. If you have to tell someone "go Google/Wikipedia it", then it's a crossover. If you have to copy-and-paste most of it from Wikipedia yourself, then it's a crossover.

Crossovers require knowledge of both (or more) series. I'm here because I expected MSLN stories with original characters, rather than MSLN/some mecha series I've never watched stories. I'll read the former, but will feel completely lost with the latter.

There's a quick rule of thumb I've come up with to see whether something is a crossover:

One of the first things I've learned to do when posting fanfiction on a site (ie after I've already written the thing) is to add a "disclaimer", saying that the characters and setting are not my property, but are instead the property of Mainframe Entertainment (ReBoot) or CLAMP (Card Captor Sakura) or Seven Arcs (MSLN) or whatever. It's legally dubious, and does not actually protect us from a determined anti-fanfic creator, but at least it shows willing.

So. If the disclaimer for your story goes something like "MSLN and its characters and settings are property of Seven Arcs" and ends thereabouts, it's not a crossover. If, however, you have to add more "property of" clauses, then it's a crossover.

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Actual replies time.

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I really hope you are not asking me for the meaning cos I can't really explain it that well. I'll try to explain their "views". These extremists advocate stricter laws, usage of lost logia, using hostile force to bring in the non-administrative worlds etc. They think that the TSAB itself has become weak in part due to the actions of the three admirals and it has become nothing but an over glorified police force and an ineffective one at that often citing the events in MSLN S1 and S2 and how ineffective most of the time the TSAB forces are. So ineffective that they have to rely on children to fight their battles for them. They believe that more should be done to strengthen the TSAB so that any threats can be more effectively taken care of. They fully support people like Regius who they think did the correct thing and think that it was a terrible shame that he got murdered.
Mostly I wanted to know why "left-wing", since, at least in the modern interpretation, what you described is not very left-wing, but is usually seen to be right-wing (not due to definitions, but because of politicians who identify as right-wing). Now, historically (not very old history, too) some politicians (in various countries) who are technically "left-wing" have expressed similar sentiments, so it's not incorrect as such, but you're either going to have to explain what sort of "left-wing" you mean, or avoid loaded political terms altogether.

It's a semantics thing. Your description there is enough for me.

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Edit: Looks like this idea is rather useless now since a few people think that an external organization is a better choice. Back to the drawing board I guess....
An external organization is "better", in my view, mostly because it requires less dancing around potential plot holes. An internal rogue faction could work, but it has all the problems of answering why they haven't gotten caught or even suspected yet, and how they got that far without someone accidentally revealing some secret.

The problem with a conspiracy is that the members all need to be completely dedicated to their cause, since it takes just one traitor to blow the whole thing. Yes, the traitor may not survive their treachery, but by then it's too late. Therefore, the conspiracy needs to have as many of the following as possible: high-ranking (and thus "above suspicion") conspirators, fanatical devotees to the cause, and as few members as possible. The more people who are involved, the more likely a secret will get out.

As for the plan, well, after they subjugate the non-administered worlds, who's going to govern them and stop them from rebelling? How are they going to go about the conquest in the first place? Taking just Earth as an example, we have the much-dreaded projectile weapons, and we also have nukes, as well as military leaders short-sighted enough to want to use them. So before they take over the non-administered world, they're going to need all the resources of the TSAB and at least some non-aggression from the TSAB's allies like Saint Church. Which means some sort of building up period, since, yanno, they'll just have finished a civil war.

This is why I postulated a leader, who is charismatic enough to create those fanatics, and convince the high-ranking personnel that it would all work out, despite the obvious illegality and immense impracticality of the whole thing.

But since that leader needs to go about creating this conspiracy in the first place, they're obviously not charismatic enough to just take over the TSAB by words rather than by conflict.

This, incidentally, could work anyway, as evidenced by the coup d'etats in our own Earth history. But the end results of the coups tend not to be stable enough to go looking for trouble elsewhere, as opposed to keeping the peace at home.


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Fate's main weakness seems to be defense. We hardly ever see her tanking full blows, and if she does its mostly back support.
Random side-note:

In City of Heroes, one of my characters is a Super Reflexes character, which relies on "defense", in this case meaning "dodging attacks" (the other damage mitigation techniques are Damage Resistance, a la "Your blows are as nothing to me", and Health Regeneration, a la Wolverine). In other words, her main source of survival is Not Getting Hit. And she really does it very well.

The problem is when the opponents get lucky. There's always a 5% chance to hit, and if those one-in-twenty chances are strung together, then she's doomed.

I see Fate as something like that: if she's good and lucky, the opponent will never hit her, and she can engage in melee all she wants. But one very lucky hit, especially in Sonic Form, and she's down.

See also: Ninja Blink-tanks in FFXI, which, in roleplay terms, kind of operates under the same principle. And then there's the Dexterity stat in D&D, especially coupled with a feat or two preventing flat-footed attacks: "A god-stat by any other name..."

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EPIC People.
"When you win, it's an epic win, when you fail, it's an epic fail... but either way, it's still EPIC!"
I'm still shaking my head over "Months have nothing to do with Lunar cycles."

Fail hard indeed.
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It mean's she's glad

Mai: ...

*watches Emili and Naomi*

... suteki...


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Gwen... Emili... Naomi... In a room.

Very very dangerous.
I'd like to see this.

*hides the camera and runs*

===========

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I made some changes to Caro's problematic Limiter Break using what I dreamed of originally, and from the suggestions made. Here's the sample:
Spoiler for Limiter Break:
Is this better?
Let me see.....

I just noticed that Ampere is Koryuoh to Erio as Voltaire is Ryukooh is to Caro. And the gattai scene kind of reminds me of this very old animated series

Well, other than that, I can see that it's a bit more organized and less "chaotic" this time.
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More of 'Honest Heart' Mayura Labatt's profile, this time with the 4th update in her profile:

Spells and Abilities

Spoiler for length:
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More of 'Honest Heart' Mayura Labatt's profile, this time with the 4th update in her profile:

Spells

Spoiler for length:
Awesome as always. I can see that Mayura's very careful in not overusing her power for her own benefit.

I have to give credits to Infinity Effect Studio for originality in name.
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If that's the case, that means the Brains did something right for once.
But unfortunately they didn't

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"Drink more electrolytes. Battery water is a good start."
Or PowerThirst

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Gwen... Emili... Naomi... In a room.

Very very dangerous.
...



Yes, very... DANGEROUS indeed

*runs*

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As long we don't mind an old man taking 10G turns I'm game for bringing him in as part of the Field Fighters. They fight AMFs see.


Anti-AMF Investigation Unit?

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One of the many transdimensional characters that we'll never see and that Kha has stolen from.
If Alphonse is here... where's shor- I mean Ed?

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Yes... By progressing through Fate Stay Night at unlimited amounts of times within a sec, uncovering more and more of the hidden pictures, the sheer dere-Saka moegaton yields will blow your mind, rendering you completely devoid of fighting will! Your innate desires will consume you! And then you shall DIE as despair sets in! HAHAHAHAHA...!


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~~~New Intelligence Data Updated~~~


I made some changes to Caro's problematic Limiter Break using what I dreamed of originally, and from the suggestions made. Here's the sample:
Spoiler for Limiter Break:
Is this better?
At the very least, Caro's method of controlling Voltaire is not only less robotic, it's also far more classy

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I'd like to see this.

*hides the camera and runs*
*USB runs into Mai's waiting chainsaw*

Mai: ... yon.


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Awesome as always. I can see that Mayura's very careful in not overusing her power for her own benefit.

I have to give credits to Infinity Effect Studio for originality in name.
More like not overusing them so she doesn't hurt herself too much

And I did want "Unlimited Effects Works" initially, but felt it was overused Also, the name fits better
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Yes, very... DANGEROUS indeed

*runs*
Dangerously Passionate?

*runs*


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*USB runs into Mai's waiting chainsaw*

Mai: ... yon.
USB: OSHI---

Mai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USB500

Mai: *takes the camera*
.......

.......

.......

suteki.

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More like not overusing them so she doesn't hurt herself too much

And I did want "Unlimited Effects Works" initially, but felt it was overused Also, the name fits better


Well, Lyrical of Time Rebuild is on the way. It's not going to be easy, though, since most of my OCs's timeline are pretty much after everything in Strikers, A's or the first season. Anyway, stay tuned for updates.
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Dangerously Passionate?

*runs*


*runs*

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USB: OSHI---

Mai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USB500

Mai: *takes the camera*
.......

.......

.......

suteki.
Mai: ...

<.<

>.>


*teleports camera somewhere else*

... safe.


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Well, Lyrical of Time Rebuild is on the way. It's not going to be easy, though, since most of my OCs's timeline are pretty much after everything in Strikers, A's or the first season. Anyway, stay tuned for updates.
DVD Special updates?

*runs faster*
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