Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by dkellis

I wonder if there'll be a twist to the story in that the gruff, unpleasant, war-mongering, unlikeable old TSAB officer who actively dislikes our main characters... suddenly turns out to be their best ally.

Yes, it's done before...It's not the most used cliche ever, but it's presence is constituted. However, for situations to reach that level of implication... it would mean that someone REALLY high up is the real corrupt bastard.

Besides, so far, Regius is not that bad. He's pretty stereotypical as far as his archetype goes... It's not a good thing, but it's not neccesarily bad either depending on the logic of his execution...which we'll obviously see in the coming episodes, in some degree. Hayate may have the nepotism button, but I'd reckon she'd be the type to not need reliance on something like that unless things turn really drastic...

Anyway, I'll be all the more happy if they can drag in Graham even a wee bit into the things...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Thinking about what I've said before...

RF6 is under ground forces right? So how much control does the Admirals from Navy have over them... Enough to say "Screw you Regius" ?

[mist2123]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

[Edit:] New skill found!
Moe Shield: If inflicted with an attack that isn't 100x higher than your current HP, the attack has no effect and cannot kill you.

Teach that skill!

[FlareKnight]

Have to say I was surprised when the news came out that Chrono and Amy were together. Admittingly I watched both the original and As pretty much all at once a few weeks before StrikerS started. Figured he'd be single or at least not married off to Amy who I thought was just a friend. Had hoped he'd end up with one of the Aces, but as I've learned quite well people creating shows don't listen to me. If they did I'd have a nice paycheque.

I'm not worried about Regius himself. Though anyone higher up that might listen to him could at least cause some problems for RF6. One slip up and they could be dealing with something that they don't want to be.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Have to say I was surprised when the news came out that Chrono and Amy were together. Admittingly I watched both the original and As pretty much all at once a few weeks before StrikerS started. Figured he'd be single or at least not married off to Amy who I thought was just a friend. Had hoped he'd end up with one of the Aces, but as I've learned quite well people creating shows don't listen to me. If they did I'd have a nice paycheque.

it was probably a shotgun wedding

[Deathkillz]

chrono actually wanted fate chan but as xellos said amy got out the shotgun...

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Anyway, I'll be all the more happy if they can drag in Graham even a wee bit into the things...

my main joy in seeing that would be seeing his "daughters" again ~ i wonder if they are still all over chrono :3

[krisslanza]

What groups handle subbing anyway? All I know is Triad and Yesy or something. And apparently Triad dropped StrikerS in favor of another anime.

It really bites to only have subs up to 9, when the series is up to 12.

[Mirificus]

Originally Posted by krisslanza

What groups handle subbing anyway? All I know is Triad and Yesy or something. And apparently Triad dropped StrikerS in favor of another anime.

It really bites to only have subs up to 9, when the series is up to 12.

Nanoha/DGz and yesy are subbing StrikerS.

[Keroko]

Triad used to sub, but they dropped Nanoha because they found the training episodes to be too boring to even continue watching the show, much less subbing it.

The two groups Nanoha and DamagedGoodz are also subbing, as far as I know (navigating their forums is a nightmare).

Yesy is the most up-to-date of these two. They've recently slowed down somewhat, but I am confident they will finish it.

[krisslanza]

I can never remember the names of all these new people... XD
It really bites. >:

*Rewatches 12* Nothing better ta do... Plus I did notice Nanoha's Barrier Jacket changed when she was using Excellion.

[Retsoor]

What is the meaning of pairing Lutecia with Erio? What a bunch of sickos.

On a completely unrelated note, this episode brings us enough material to illuminate Zest's and Lutecia's relationship, courtesy of Agito. Now, amateurs or a group of slackjawed lollygaggers might translate 'danna' as something that denotes respect for an elder and more experienced male figure within a fixed subject group, but if you see further than skin-deep it is clear that she is referring to a "master of the house" figure, i.e. her mistress's husband.

As we can see from the preview for episode thirteen, Zest meets Lutecia in a burning house, where all she held dear perished, and Zest offers her his hand, but not without a price. You see, Zest, an old veteran of the field has come to the realization that life with only a youth's zest is lonely, and would like some female companionship. Lutecia, driven by vengeance but not by love, accepts his proposal but makes a counterdemand of her own, it will not be consummated before her vengeance has been dealt with.

This was the beginning premise of their relationship, and the reason they wander searching for the lost Relic that is a crucial object in Lutecia's revenge. However, things have taken a turn. Doctor Jailbait has appeared, and Lutecia is not unwilling to go with his plans. Zest, burning with jealousy, ofttimes takes off on his own to search for the Relic to hinder Jailbait's influence over Lutecia and to open her gardens of delight.

Lutecia, to her surprise, has grown to love Zest and would like to spend the rest of her days with him, but can't due to the vow of vengeance she has taken, which she feels, if broken, would sully her and Zest's future relationship. What we saw when she saw the Relic she lost was not the one she sought, was a complex array of emotions varying on hope that it is still attainable, and misery and despair over her unfulfilled revenge and seemingly hopeless love for Zest. If they continue much farther on this road Lutecia will only become more apathetic and withdrawn, and Zest will be consumed by his jealousy and innate rage.

Tragic.

[Serenity85]

Originally Posted by Retsoor

What is the meaning of pairing Lutecia with Erio? What a bunch of sickos.

On a completely unrelated note, this episode brings us enough material to illuminate Zest's and Lutecia's relationship, courtesy of Agito. Now, amateurs or a group of slackjawed lollygaggers might translate 'danna' as something that denotes respect for an elder and more experienced male figure within a fixed subject group, but if you see further than skin-deep it is clear that she is referring to a "master of the house" figure, i.e. her mistress's husband.

As we can see from the preview for episode thirteen, Zest meets Lutecia in a burning house, where all she held dear perished, and Zest offers her his hand, but not without a price. You see, Zest, an old veteran of the field has come to the realization that life with only a youth's zest is lonely, and would like some female companionship. Lutecia, driven by vengeance but not by love, accepts his proposal but makes a counterdemand of her own, it will not be consummated before her vengeance has been dealt with.

This was the beginning premise of their relationship, and the reason they wander searching for the lost Relic that is a crucial object in Lutecia's revenge. However, things have taken a turn. Doctor Jailbait has appeared, and Lutecia is not unwilling to go with his plans. Zest, burning with jealousy, ofttimes takes off on his own to search for the Relic to hinder Jailbait's influence over Lutecia and to open her gardens of delight.

Lutecia, to her surprise, has grown to love Zest and would like to spend the rest of her days with him, but can't due to the vow of vengeance she has taken, which she feels, if broken, would sully her and Zest's future relationship. What we saw when she saw the Relic she lost was not the one she sought, was a complex array of emotions varying on hope that it is still attainable, and misery and despair over her unfulfilled revenge and seemingly hopeless love for Zest. If they continue much farther on this road Lutecia will only become more apathetic and withdrawn, and Zest will be consumed by his jealousy and innate rage.

Tragic.

ah wow, um you though this through havn't you Sounds complex but the logic is there, even if I don't like the idea, well not yet (LxZ is kinda odd of a pairing if you ask me but then again the writers could surprise us) Well will know if its true next ep now won't we

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by Retsoor

What is the meaning of pairing Lutecia with Erio? What a bunch of sickos.

On a completely unrelated note, this episode brings us enough material to illuminate Zest's and Lutecia's relationship, courtesy of Agito. Now, amateurs or a group of slackjawed lollygaggers might translate 'danna' as something that denotes respect for an elder and more experienced male figure within a fixed subject group, but if you see further than skin-deep it is clear that she is referring to a "master of the house" figure, i.e. her mistress's husband.

As we can see from the preview for episode thirteen, Zest meets Lutecia in a burning house, where all she held dear perished, and Zest offers her his hand, but not without a price. You see, Zest, an old veteran of the field has come to the realization that life with only a youth's zest is lonely, and would like some female companionship. Lutecia, driven by vengeance but not by love, accepts his proposal but makes a counterdemand of her own, it will not be consummated before her vengeance has been dealt with.

This was the beginning premise of their relationship, and the reason they wander searching for the lost Relic that is a crucial object in Lutecia's revenge. However, things have taken a turn. Doctor Jailbait has appeared, and Lutecia is not unwilling to go with his plans. Zest, burning with jealousy, ofttimes takes off on his own to search for the Relic to hinder Jailbait's influence over Lutecia and to open her gardens of delight.

Lutecia, to her surprise, has grown to love Zest and would like to spend the rest of her days with him, but can't due to the vow of vengeance she has taken, which she feels, if broken, would sully her and Zest's future relationship. What we saw when she saw the Relic she lost was not the one she sought, was a complex array of emotions varying on hope that it is still attainable, and misery and despair over her unfulfilled revenge and seemingly hopeless love for Zest. If they continue much farther on this road Lutecia will only become more apathetic and withdrawn, and Zest will be consumed by his jealousy and innate rage.

Tragic.

*facepalm* Riiiiight....

Spoiler for Gone berserk:

*dashes towards Zest*
*grabs him by the neck with one hand*
*slams Zest against a concrete wall, creating an impact crater*
"You are not worthy of Lutecia-sama..."
Zest:"W-who are you?"
"The one who will put an end to your insignificant existance if you defile oujou-sama."
*let's go of Zest*
*disappears*

Be careful, be very careful, Knight Zest....

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Retsoor

What is the meaning of pairing Lutecia with Erio? What a bunch of sickos.

I'm sorry, but I feel that I should just harp on this since it obviously bothers you so much The others would probably tend to your mushroom-induce speech

But no, you're mistaken, we don't just want Lutecia, after what Erio's been through and what he's most likely about to go through again in battle.

We want the whole package. EVERY loli

In the mean time though, a few of us would be focusing demonic energies into causing the two of them to end up in a remote, uninhabited island where Erio could do his thing without the distractions like the ones of this episode !


(...Damn I'm evil ...)

[Fuyu no Sora]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I'm sorry, but I feel that I should just harp on this since it obviously bothers you so much

Chaos is at it again

On another note: Who says blonde loli will wake up and stcik to Nanoha in the next few episodes? I know I do

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Fuyu no Sora

Chaos is at it again

I'm alittle 'high' after finally finishing that post in the humor thread

(Hmm, maybe I should get out some images...)

Originally Posted by Fuyu no Sora

On another note: Who says blonde loli will wake up and stcik to Nanoha in the next few episodes? I know I do

That's why I lost interest in her

[Serenity85]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I'm alittle 'high' after finally finishing that post in the humor thread

[size="1'](Hmm, maybe I should get out some images...)[/size]



That's why I lost interest in her

How can you hate the poor liitle Vivio just cause shes attached to Nanoha. Chaos is being mean to the ppor thing. besides ...

... it sets up so perfectly for Erio^^ (this being that Caro has been adopted by Fate or Lindy) cause it sets up for once its a loli not related by blood scenario^^ Give the poor girl a chance^^

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Serenity85

How can you hate the poor liitle Vivio just cause shes attached to Nanoha. Chaos is being mean to the ppor thing. besides ...

Wait wait I said 'Lost interest', not 'hate'....

Originally Posted by Serenity85

... it sets up so perfectly for Erio^^ (this being that Caro has been adopted by Fate or Lindy) cause it sets up for once its a loli not related by blood scenario^^ Give the poor girl a chance^^

Hmm, I guess you may be right, but I'll see...

[FlareKnight]

Makes sense enough for me. Just give Erio all the lolis . He's had a pretty tough few episodes so he deserves a bit after all that going on. Won't hurt Lutecia to have a good guy like him anyways.

I just lost track personally of Vivio because of all the action going on. Should be interesting to see her after she gets up and how she gets along with everyone.

Anyways, bring on the lone island scenario! It must happen sooner or later.

[Xellos-_^]

Just 1 point i want to bring up. Was there a reason why no one setup a barrier like in A's, that would have keep the # girls form escaping?