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dragon213 · 2017-12-12, 15:53

can we get a more detailed spoiler for the scene between Lim and Tigre? Also does any other vanadises share a moment with Tigre (confess scene) in the final volume other than Mira?

Yye1 · 2017-12-12, 16:03

^ From what I saw in the Chinese forums, so take with a grain of salt, Lim did not actually have sex with Tigre, they just fell asleep together.

Chingaruna517 · 2017-12-12, 17:21

Spoiler for The truth about Silesia ignorance about Tigre and co. true heroism.:

Also....

Spoiler for In regards of the barbarians,:

So, to summarize

Spoiler for Battle against the barbarians,:

Also, in case you're wondering about the short story about Mila and Tigre, here is it.

Spoiler for Story Story Special:

Ramero · 2017-12-12, 20:30

I wonder what will become the Heirloom this time since Brune and Zhcted are united. Is it remain Durandal or Black Bow as a heirloom this time.

Chingaruna517 · 2017-12-12, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Ramero

I wonder what will become the Heirloom this time since Brune and Zhcted are united. Is it remain Durandal or Black Bow as a heirloom this time.

Me too....It is always fascinating to see what are the roles of both Durandal and Black bow be considering Tigre is the king now...

HOF69 · 2017-12-12, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chingaruna517

Spoiler for The truth about Silesia ignorance about Tigre and co. true heroism.:

Also....

Spoiler for In regards of the barbarians,:

So, to summarize

Spoiler for Battle against the barbarians,:

Also, in case you're wondering about the short story about Mila and Tigre, here is it.

Spoiler for Story Story Special:

Thanks for all this. Is the short story from the artbook or in Volume 18 itself?

Chingaruna517 · 2017-12-12, 22:22

^ Funny you ask, because it is actually coming from the 17th Volume. Whoever ask for the story about the Special Short Story again?

Ramero · 2017-12-12, 22:33

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Originally Posted by Chingaruna517

Me too....It is always fascinating to see what are the roles of both Durandal and Black bow be considering Tigre is the king now...

Well, from the story that we know Zhcted got no official Heirloom while Brune got Durandal as Heirloom. So i assume that Durnandal becomes a Heirloom for Royal Family again? Black Bow however only can be used properly in certain times but not for Durandal.

Yye1 · 2017-12-12, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Chingaruna517

^ Funny you ask, because it is actually coming from the 17th Volume. Whoever ask for the story about the Special Short Story again?

I don't think the Mila story is from the artbook. From what I have read in the Chinese forums, the artbook short story was sort of like a harem story with Tigre and his wives.

Btw, this is from the artbook. Hinata Katagiri never got a chance to draw Sasha, so did it in the artbook.

Spoiler for Pic:

Ramero · 2017-12-13, 03:09

I can't see the pic, mind if you upload it to imgur and show us? I want to see more Sasha anyway.

DragonOsman · 2017-12-13, 06:03

@Yye1: Chingaruna already said that it might be from the 17th Volume, right? I think he can tell if it's not from the artbook short story. And also, Tigre's wife (for now, hopefully) is only Regin. The 6 Vanadis who are in the harem and Titta are mistresses.

I think the Black Bow and Durandal together could be the heirlooms, if that's possible. The Black Bow could be proof that the King is chosen by the Viralts and Tir na Fal, rather than only being an heirloom, while Durandal would be the true heirloom.

Chingaruna517 · 2017-12-13, 08:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yye1

I don't think the Mila story is from the artbook. From what I have read in the Chinese forums, the artbook short story was sort of like a harem story with Tigre and his wives.

Btw, this is from the artbook. Hinata Katagiri never got a chance to draw Sasha, so did it in the artbook.

Spoiler for Pic:

No...not the current one, but from the Volume 17's special before the 18th Volume or even the artbook even arrived

Ramero · 2017-12-13, 09:57

Black Bow is a family heirloom as far as i know but Durandal is not only a Family Heirloom but also a Kingdom's Heirloom. Still, i wonder though if the Black Bow was indeed can be Kingdom's Heirloom as well.

Still, i need to collect money to get that artbook since i yearn to get it T_T does someone already has the artbook?

DragonOsman · 2017-12-13, 11:18

The Black Bow would probably be the King's Regalia. It's proof that Tigre is chosen as Zhcted's King due to being the incarnation of Zirnitra, after all. So it's basically proof that he's chosen as King by the gods. Someone who wasn't chosen by the Black Bow could still be King, like Victor and all of the other Kings between the founder King of Zhcted and Tigre, but the Viralt and Tir Na Fal won't support that King.

Chingaruna517 · 2017-12-14, 07:16

Anyway, here some bits from chapter 2

Spoiler for Chapter 2 Minor summary:

Speaking of which,

Spoiler for A Muozinel weapon shop:

Ramero · 2017-12-14, 08:21

You know.. Propaganda really sucks if people are blinded by such a thing and Tina really make a good use of it but then again, the truth is very far from what people expected.

DragonOsman · 2017-12-14, 09:11

^Agreed.

Those Muozinel weapon shops being there is pretty interesting.

I don't understand why Damad is helping Tigre all of a sudden even though he was originally sent to kill him if he's Tigre (when he was amnesic).

Chingaruna517 · 2017-12-14, 10:01

@Ramero Of course. Still, with the civil war plagued the kingdom and various factions are consolidating powers to either support, you can't blame the public for getting confused throughout the chaos and their only chance for them live through chaos is to, well believe whoever make the change, for better or worse. Problems is however Tina has feed the people though distorted truth or conceivable lie.

@DragonOsman Well, actually...

Spoiler for Reasons for Damad helping Tigre:

Further updates

Spoiler for Tina and Valery:

Ramero · 2017-12-14, 11:52

Yeah, i also remember that rumours from Hans reaching Nice was used by Melisande as a propaganda to further weaken Regin although it was foiled by Tigre and his army later on.

Chingaruna517 · 2017-12-14, 17:28

Some details are added...

Spoiler for The reason why Tina takes Valery:

2017-12-12, 16:03	Link #11542
Yye1 Wide Right Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Edmonton, Canada	^ From what I saw in the Chinese forums, so take with a grain of salt, Lim did not actually have sex with Tigre, they just fell asleep together. __________________ Don’t you open your mouth about the best. Or I’m ma shut it for you real quick. - Richard Sherman "Me and my girlfreinds are goin to go see Sex and the City." We're like: "Great! Now i dont have to take you to see that shit!" -The Great Philosopher Chris Rock

2017-12-12, 17:21	Link #11543
Chingaruna517 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Flushing, New York	Spoiler for The truth about Silesia ignorance about Tigre and co. true heroism.: To be fair, even before the civil war everyone excluding Tigre and the 5 Vanadises (and some allies of course like Lim, Rurick, Titta, Gerard, Gaspar and Damad) are oblivious and unaware by Tina's manipulations in fulfilling her own ambitions, including foreign enemy such as one of Muozinel Prince who was competing with Kureys for the vacant throne. Not to mention hostilities between both factions from Eugene and Ruslan are all time high and, judging by how they hate each other, they certain going to justify whatever make their doing which only harm the kingdom further and making Tina's plot much smoother... Can't you really blamed for these fools' to be confused when the Black Dragon Army declare Tina as the real enemy here? In fact, I doubt that old idiot Miron even see with a bigger picture since he loyalty only for Ruslan but nobody else, not including Valery... Also.... Spoiler for In regards of the barbarians,: These are the same group of villains whom Ilda defeated from the north. Not unlike either Muozinel Army or Sachstein Army, these bandits also infamous for doing things they do best: plundering villages, killing innocent people and also grabbing women, children and elderly for whatever reasons. Now with the destruction of House Kurtis and Zhcted was plagued with chaos, the leader of the barbarian see it as a chance to seize Silesia itself, and they do seems to bother whoever the opponents are, be it the Black Dragon Army of even Pro-Valentina Army which they focus on the former. The tribal chief were actually against that idea but the leader is so confident because of the bandit outnumbers the Vanadis So, to summarize Spoiler for Battle against the barbarians,: War begins between both armies... Liza is acting as a leader but most of the fighting goes for Elen, Mila and Olga... Ice traps work on the bandits but they refuse to give up... Vanadises try all kinds of weapon and each broke during the war, much to Elen's disgust because it has reminding her about her mercenaries days... Lim leads an army to the rescue. and the leader is killed by...whoever among the Black Dragon Army. Leader's death causes almost the remaining bandits to surrender... ...and Liza make a deal with these surrendered bandits with some of them joining the Black Dragon Army's cause to stop Tina and her cronies. One more thing, the reason why the Barbarians are attacking in the first place is because they were received gift-mostly foods and fuel- from Ganelon. Yes, that Ganelon. The one who summoned Tir Na Fal and attempt to steal her powers. Also, in case you're wondering about the short story about Mila and Tigre, here is it. Spoiler for Story Story Special: The short story takes place at Olmutz Imperial Palace where Tigre and Mila are..sleeping together in her private room? Anyways, Mila asks Tigre about the earlier confession about his feelings for her, presumably the time before his mission in rescuing Eugene. Tigre's response is he likes her almost everything, specifically her smile, discipline and all their times together. Mila then shut Tigre by kissing his lips and whispering to him that is enough. Last edited by Chingaruna517; 2017-12-12 at 21:05.

2017-12-13, 06:03	Link #11551
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	@Yye1: Chingaruna already said that it might be from the 17th Volume, right? I think he can tell if it's not from the artbook short story. And also, Tigre's wife (for now, hopefully) is only Regin. The 6 Vanadis who are in the harem and Titta are mistresses. I think the Black Bow and Durandal together could be the heirlooms, if that's possible. The Black Bow could be proof that the King is chosen by the Viralts and Tir na Fal, rather than only being an heirloom, while Durandal would be the true heirloom. __________________

2017-12-13, 11:18	Link #11554
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	The Black Bow would probably be the King's Regalia. It's proof that Tigre is chosen as Zhcted's King due to being the incarnation of Zirnitra, after all. So it's basically proof that he's chosen as King by the gods. Someone who wasn't chosen by the Black Bow could still be King, like Victor and all of the other Kings between the founder King of Zhcted and Tigre, but the Viralt and Tir Na Fal won't support that King. __________________

2017-12-14, 07:16	Link #11555
Chingaruna517 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Flushing, New York	Anyway, here some bits from chapter 2 Spoiler for Chapter 2 Minor summary: Team Tigre (Tigre, Naum, Gaspar and Damad) meanwhile is infiltrating into Silesia with some disguises, starting by wearing fake beard or something. Because neither of them have any preparation to rescue Eugene yet, all the while avoid being detected, they had to hide at a hide at a local weaponry shop that Damad found. The one who give the Team Tigre a shelter is actually a woman, wife of the owner of the shop and, coincidentally, she's from Muozinel just like Damad. But the major point is Tigre is shocked to hear that everyone in Silesia praises Tina's takeover and even considered her as a hero? What's worse? When the purple skies were disappeared soon after Ganelon's demise, everyone seemly praised Ruslan even more because the king "often seen visiting the Imperial Shrine and prayed for gods", which by the way one of yet another Tina's lies. Can you imagine how stupid these people are? In fact, I begin to wish Tir Na Fal forsaken the human realm because there are too many fools like them! Speaking of which, Spoiler for A Muozinel weapon shop: Before the jail-break of Tina and Fine, Damad was walking around the streets alongside with Gerard and Gaspar. One shop that caught him attention was the weapon shop that was operated by a Muozinel merchant. Last edited by Chingaruna517; 2017-12-14 at 10:09.

2017-12-12, 15:53	Link #11541
dragon213 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014	can we get a more detailed spoiler for the scene between Lim and Tigre? Also does any other vanadises share a moment with Tigre (confess scene) in the final volume other than Mira?

2017-12-12, 20:30	Link #11544
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	I wonder what will become the Heirloom this time since Brune and Zhcted are united. Is it remain Durandal or Black Bow as a heirloom this time.

2017-12-12, 22:22	Link #11547
Chingaruna517 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Flushing, New York	^ Funny you ask, because it is actually coming from the 17th Volume. Whoever ask for the story about the Special Short Story again?

2017-12-13, 03:09	Link #11550
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	I can't see the pic, mind if you upload it to imgur and show us? I want to see more Sasha anyway.

2017-12-13, 09:57	Link #11553
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	Black Bow is a family heirloom as far as i know but Durandal is not only a Family Heirloom but also a Kingdom's Heirloom. Still, i wonder though if the Black Bow was indeed can be Kingdom's Heirloom as well. Still, i need to collect money to get that artbook since i yearn to get it T_T does someone already has the artbook?

2017-12-14, 08:21	Link #11556
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	You know.. Propaganda really sucks if people are blinded by such a thing and Tina really make a good use of it but then again, the truth is very far from what people expected.

2017-12-14, 09:11	Link #11557
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	^Agreed. Those Muozinel weapon shops being there is pretty interesting. I don't understand why Damad is helping Tigre all of a sudden even though he was originally sent to kill him if he's Tigre (when he was amnesic). __________________

2017-12-14, 10:01	Link #11558
Chingaruna517 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Flushing, New York	@Ramero Of course. Still, with the civil war plagued the kingdom and various factions are consolidating powers to either support, you can't blame the public for getting confused throughout the chaos and their only chance for them live through chaos is to, well believe whoever make the change, for better or worse. Problems is however Tina has feed the people though distorted truth or conceivable lie. @DragonOsman Well, actually... Spoiler for Reasons for Damad helping Tigre: If anyone wish to know, Damad was supposed to become a POW to Brune after Muozinel Army's retreat soon after the Kureys's bro has passed away from an illness. Tigre however doesn't wished him to becoming a prisoner because of his own experience as Elen's prisoner. You can get the development from here. Also, Damad came along to Zchted with Gerard and Gaspar due to his own friendship with the former. There, he has been involving many events that happening in Zhcted, from escaping Silesia together with Titta, witnessing Tir Na Fal's near descent, and now this a mission in rescuing Eugene... Further updates Spoiler for Tina and Valery: Somewhere at Ruslan's bedroom, Tina is summoned to see the father and son Ruslan and Valery. Here, Ruslan entrusting the life Valery to Tina because he can't find anyone more reliable than her, not to mention Miron hates Valery to his guts because of what happened to the first prince himself. It began with 8 years ago soon after Ruslan's failed coup, things were getting even more worse than Ruslan when his own wife has passed away for unknown reasons: some say she was poisoned while others believed she was possessed by evil spirits. Tina knew the truth however that because Ruslan was poisoned by Viktor after her failed coup, he was isolated away from his family as his additional punishment due to his crime. All of this to make sure nobody will going to rebel against King Viktor like Ruslan did. Either way, Tina reluctantly accepts Ruslan's request and promises him in taking good care with Valery. Surprisingly, these two are fond very well with each other... Last edited by Chingaruna517; 2017-12-14 at 10:41. Reason: Minor updates

2017-12-14, 11:52	Link #11559
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	Yeah, i also remember that rumours from Hans reaching Nice was used by Melisande as a propaganda to further weaken Regin although it was foiled by Tigre and his army later on.

2017-12-14, 17:28	Link #11560
Chingaruna517 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Flushing, New York	Some details are added... Spoiler for The reason why Tina takes Valery: Originally, it appears Tina has little interest about Valery because Miron and other loyalist didn't talk much about him, not to mention even she herself didn't see much "value" about the little young boy. The only reason for her to even having the boy at her side is because this request is coming from Ruslan, who fears that his son will be in danger should he die. Also, Tina encourages Valery in reading books...