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Guardian Enzo · 2022-05-13, 18:35

This is an interesting novelty at the very least. These are two films set in alternate universes, released simultaneously but by different studios. The original novels by Otono Yomiji were released on the same day in 2016, and could "be read in either order".

Notable to me is that "Kimi" is directed by Kasai Kenichi, one of the anime titans, who's been pretty much invisible for five years.

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Frontier · 2022-05-13, 20:08

Parallel sci-fi romantic dramas? Interesting

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I'm glad these aren't CG

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iko_uwais · 2022-05-14, 06:25

Was already interested in the novels even before the anime was announced. Maybe I'll read them before watching the anime

Kanon · 2022-05-16, 17:00

That's a really interesting concept.

Kanon · 2023-03-24, 18:10

Both films will be released on Crunchyroll on April 21st.

Frontier · 2023-03-25, 13:58

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Originally Posted by Kanon

Both films will be released on Crunchyroll on April 21st.

Glad to hear it! I'll be sure to check them out

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Kanon · 2023-04-25, 08:08

Watched both films yesterday. I thought they were both really great. I went in only knowing the basic concept of the films: two romances set in different worlds; and was pleasantly surprised that the films had a very strong focus on sci-fi. I strongly recommend it to fans of Shinkai, to me those are the kind of movies he wishes he could make.

While it's true you can watch them in any order, I recommend Kimi (red poster) -> Boku (blue poster). Kimi takes a lot more time explaining the concepts making the second film easy to understand from the start and without watching it first you don't get the full pay-off of the ending of Boku IMO.

One thing I particularly liked is that it's not about teenagers. Sure, that's where the stories start (Kimi a bit earlier), but the films spend more time on Koyomi's adulthood. I thought the writing was very strong, there's only one plot point I found stupid in Kimi but it's actually supposed to be stupid. It will make you roll your eyes at first but keep watching.

The other reason I recommend watching Boku second is that it's the superior film of the two with the more conclusive ending.

Now, to get into spoilers:

Spoiler for Spoilers for both movies:

The stupid plot point I was talking about is of course Koyomi and Shiori trying to run away to an alternate world because they think they can't get married since their parents are going to marry each other. Koyomi's father later points out it wouldn't have been against the law at all for the two to marry since they're not blood related so there was no reason for them to run away in the first place. They paid a heavy price for their ignorance and stupidity. A simple google search would have solved everything

That said, what makes it not all that important in the long run is that Koyomi later finds out during the shifting experiments that Shiori dies in every world where they meet each other, so she was doomed from the start. Only difference is that she ended up as a "ghost", and I could definitely relate to Koyomi spending his whole life trying to free her because her spending eternity stuck at a crossroad unable to interact with anyone would have been too sad. It sucks that Kazune was neglected as a result, and that's where the second film comes in...

I thought so while watching Kimi but Boku made it clear Kazune is the real heroine. She really got me with her prank to Koyomi. Seeing them gradually get closer, and having her be the one to ultimately ask him out after she turned him down multiples times was great. Their married life was a relatively smooth ride save for that one incident where their son was almost killed... and in fact did die in other worlds. We followed the lucky ones.
The last third of the movie offered a new perspective on Kimi's Kazune. It was obvious she had a thing for Koyomi even there, but we found out just how strong her feelings were. It's sad she spent her life next to him and not with him, but she knew she couldn't compete.
BokuKazune granting her request to have Koyomi meet Shiori led to the pay-off I was talking about earlier: Shiori helping a "stranger" and telling him "her name's not important", something she had wanted to do her whole life. There was no tearful reunion or anything. Koyomi just felt he knew her and that he was somehow filled with happiness knowing this stranger led a happy life. And the movie ends with him reaffirming his love to Kazune, all of them. Beautiful.

I forgot to talk about the animation. It wasn't anything special. Average for a movie, I'd say. I'm surprised they were done by different studios since I couldn't see a difference. Of course, each movie uses footage from the other at some point so they needed to look the same.

Guardian Enzo · 2023-04-27, 08:30

It's a pretty interesting concept, but I was thrown a bit by the performances for Koyomi and Saori. I know they got pretty new actors but they came off as pretty flat for me.

Kanon · 2023-04-27, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

It's a pretty interesting concept, but I was thrown a bit by the performances for Koyomi and Saori. I know they got pretty new actors but they came off as pretty flat for me.

I forgot to mention it but yes, they were pretty terrible. They sounded bored most of the time, zero emotions in their voices.

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Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	Parallel sci-fi romantic dramas? Interesting . I'm glad these aren't CG . __________________

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	That's a really interesting concept. __________________

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Both films will be released on Crunchyroll on April 21st. __________________

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Watched both films yesterday. I thought they were both really great. I went in only knowing the basic concept of the films: two romances set in different worlds; and was pleasantly surprised that the films had a very strong focus on sci-fi. I strongly recommend it to fans of Shinkai, to me those are the kind of movies he wishes he could make. While it's true you can watch them in any order, I recommend Kimi (red poster) -> Boku (blue poster). Kimi takes a lot more time explaining the concepts making the second film easy to understand from the start and without watching it first you don't get the full pay-off of the ending of Boku IMO. One thing I particularly liked is that it's not about teenagers. Sure, that's where the stories start (Kimi a bit earlier), but the films spend more time on Koyomi's adulthood. I thought the writing was very strong, there's only one plot point I found stupid in Kimi but it's actually supposed to be stupid. It will make you roll your eyes at first but keep watching. The other reason I recommend watching Boku second is that it's the superior film of the two with the more conclusive ending. Now, to get into spoilers: Spoiler for Spoilers for both movies: The stupid plot point I was talking about is of course Koyomi and Shiori trying to run away to an alternate world because they think they can't get married since their parents are going to marry each other. Koyomi's father later points out it wouldn't have been against the law at all for the two to marry since they're not blood related so there was no reason for them to run away in the first place. They paid a heavy price for their ignorance and stupidity. A simple google search would have solved everything That said, what makes it not all that important in the long run is that Koyomi later finds out during the shifting experiments that Shiori dies in every world where they meet each other, so she was doomed from the start. Only difference is that she ended up as a "ghost", and I could definitely relate to Koyomi spending his whole life trying to free her because her spending eternity stuck at a crossroad unable to interact with anyone would have been too sad. It sucks that Kazune was neglected as a result, and that's where the second film comes in... I thought so while watching Kimi but Boku made it clear Kazune is the real heroine. She really got me with her prank to Koyomi. Seeing them gradually get closer, and having her be the one to ultimately ask him out after she turned him down multiples times was great. Their married life was a relatively smooth ride save for that one incident where their son was almost killed... and in fact did die in other worlds. We followed the lucky ones. The last third of the movie offered a new perspective on Kimi's Kazune. It was obvious she had a thing for Koyomi even there, but we found out just how strong her feelings were. It's sad she spent her life next to him and not with him, but she knew she couldn't compete. BokuKazune granting her request to have Koyomi meet Shiori led to the pay-off I was talking about earlier: Shiori helping a "stranger" and telling him "her name's not important", something she had wanted to do her whole life. There was no tearful reunion or anything. Koyomi just felt he knew her and that he was somehow filled with happiness knowing this stranger led a happy life. And the movie ends with him reaffirming his love to Kazune, all of them. Beautiful. I forgot to talk about the animation. It wasn't anything special. Average for a movie, I'd say. I'm surprised they were done by different studios since I couldn't see a difference. Of course, each movie uses footage from the other at some point so they needed to look the same. __________________ Last edited by Kanon; 2023-04-25 at 13:07.

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iko_uwais Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Indonesia	Was already interested in the novels even before the anime was announced. Maybe I'll read them before watching the anime