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Tom Bombadil · 2009-10-27, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Teleutao

Assuming the fight goes uninterrupted (like that's likely)

It is Maria's turn to show them who is in charge. Maid power.

primuler · 2009-10-27, 11:15

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Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

It is Maria's turn to show them who is in charge. Maid power.

It seems that it won't happen. Something interesting came up in Hata's blog. It seems that Machina and Sister knows each other pretty well. In his blog, Sister warns Machina to beware Athena as she's beyond the level of monster.
Hata says that Athena vs Isumi is the battle of the people with highest offensive power in the whole series. He says that it's a rare battle scene in this series. As he and his assistants are not used to drawing battle scenes, they're having trouble. He says that there's no battle scenes planned for a while after Athena arc.

Just to let you know, I've been only reading spoilers for past three weeks, so I hardly have clear idea of what's going on now, and I'm not interested in reading the chapters until the arc is over. So... unless either this arc ends or something interesting comes up, I won't be back (to be truthful, I'm kind of busy at the moment)

Used Can · 2009-10-27, 12:24

Hata also said he made a mistake with the Chinese characters for Isumi's technique.

He used "建御電神" which would roughly translate as: "Rise, great lightning god."
What he wanted to use was "建御雷神" which would be: "Rise, great thunder god."

Rah · 2009-10-27, 13:15

I get the feeling that he's just making shit up as he goes. Usually he'd just have to use material from other manga / anime / other sources, and make parodies...

But now...

It's sort of original. There might be parodies of some things in this arc as well, but, well.. at least I didn't notice any. Have you?

I wonder how it will end now that he has to think up stuff instead of just "borrowing" it from elsewhere.

Used Can · 2009-10-27, 14:57

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Originally Posted by Rah

I get the feeling that he's just making shit up as he goes.

You mean the fighting scene? This has been planned from some months ago. I think most of the things he's done have been planned beforehand. I think he even said Athena was planned from the very beginning.

As for how the battle scene went, I think he does deserve some praise. He and his team have been doing a good job, in my opinion. I think he should only be cautious on how much complicated he makes the situation for Hayate and Co., because otherwise, it'll feel quite odd whenever they make their comeback. Regarding some possible end like Hayate's stone breaking, I think that'd be far too anticlimactic. It'd be a terrible way to end the battle in my opinion.

Personally, I think Hayate should be able to overcome this battle, sort things out with Athena, and have this whole deal solved. Then the plot can move wherever Hata wants it to move. One way or the other, I think all these issues should be settled now. As much as I've liked the plot, this issue has already been dragged for too long. I'd really like more plot, but I think this particular part of the story should be dealt with and finished in this arc.

Rah · 2009-10-27, 17:25

Didn't Hata say that Isumin' & Athena are the two most powerful characters in the manga? How do you expect a wounded Hayate to overcome what Isumin' couldn't? And against 1 arm at that!

I predict their defeat, but successful escape. It would be the right time for Nagi to learn about Hayate's past relationship, and Isumin's powers. And just when they're talking about it, Maria gets a flashback, or hears the voice of Midas by telepathy, hypnotizing her into stealing Hayate's gem. Obviously she does so at night when everyone is sleeping. The next morning when they wake up Maria is nowhere to be found, and Hayate realizes that the gem is also gone. They fear that she was kidnapped, and go searching for her. They find clues that she returned to Japan, so Nagi gets a fighter jet squadron, and everyone flies over to the rescue!

Only to realize later that she betrayed them.. huhuhu..

Buuuuutt....... probably not.

If Hata is following the legend, then perhaps Midas's daughter is really a statue, and perhaps Midas wants to undo what he did to her (turned her to gold). Or... he might fuck up the chronological order of events, and decide to later turn her into a statue (if she's not a new character).

Hmm...

~2 days till spoilers. Now I can't wait! I think that the next chapter is gonna be conclusive! If not, then the one after that.

Wonder who's right? How will it end?

Used Can · 2009-10-27, 17:46

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Originally Posted by Rah

Didn't Hata say that Isumin' & Athena are the two most powerful characters in the manga? How do you expect a wounded Hayate to overcome what Isumin' couldn't? And against 1 arm at that!

He said they have the highest offensive power, that's it.

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Originally Posted by Rah

I predict their defeat, but successful escape. It would be the right time for Nagi to learn about Hayate's past relationship, and Isumin's powers. And just when they're talking about it, Maria gets a flashback, or hears the voice of Midas by telepathy, hypnotizing her into stealing Hayate's gem. Obviously she does so at night when everyone is sleeping. The next morning when they wake up Maria is nowhere to be found, and Hayate realizes that the gem is also gone. They fear that she was kidnapped, and go searching for her. They find clues that she returned to Japan, so Nagi gets a fighter jet squadron, and everyone flies over to the rescue!

Hmm... in my opinion, that sounds like a terrible idea. Not only is that scenario dragging things even further, but it's even deviating from the original purpose of this battle.

Rah · 2009-10-27, 19:23

You agree, you disagree, yadda, yadda...

You create a fitting scenario for a change! Don't be a lazy bum, and think of something.

No less than 200 words. GO!

Used Can · 2009-10-27, 20:50

Meh... I don't really feel like it, and it's not really my thing. I just wanted to point out your scenario strayed too much from the point of this battler, and moreover, of this arc.

Usually, I'd say there could be other ways to bring Midas down, since there are many types of strength other than offensive power, but being the type of story this is, I wouldn't expect any of them to rely on battle tactics. Personally, I think there'll be a sudden power-up (well, this what I'd rather see, compared to something corny like Hayate telling Athena his feelings, and then Athena trying to gain control of herself after that - which is also another possibility).

Rah · 2009-10-27, 23:12

Damn, you're analytical.

*feels cold*

Brrrrrrr!

*shiver shiver shiver*

Ummm...

Right, well, umm...

Make something up already! You're no fun. No fun at all!

Okay, so, we need more color to the manga now (not literally). Hmmm...

Ah, I got it! Suddenly, out of nowhere Ayumu storms in by breaking down a huge wall with a tractor, wielding Hina like a broadsword, which in turn is wielding Miki as her weapon of choice (she likes it anyway, since she's being "used" by her), shouting on top of her lungs "LEEEEEEEERRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYY....!!!"; Hina is about to finish the battle cry, but Midas blasts them to orbit with a flick of a finger, but just then they're hit by Halley's comet and divert it's orbit to the Earth, riding it down the stratosphere while Hina jams "The Final Countdown" by using Miki as a guitar. Just as the chorus hit, Hina throws Miki like the Gae Bolg, piercing Midas! Upon contact.. a blinding flash, followed by Halley's comet impacting upon Athena's mansion! It goes through the earth shaping it like a doughnut, which later Homer eats. THE END!

*bows*

In b4 "Sugoi monogatari aniki" xD

Edit~

Apparently Machi's hair is the same color as Hayate's. Dunno bout his eye color. This is him, right?

Spoiler for Machiburgers:

Is it a coincidence? Perhaps he resembled Hayate when she found him? Hmmhmm...

Anyways, IMHO the color doesn't fit. Well, opinions change.. who knows..

Used Can · 2009-10-27, 23:50

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Originally Posted by Rah

Make something up already! You're no fun. No fun at all!

I'm just lazy, honestly. Additionally, I don't think I'd be able to write a scenario that I'd be able to like.

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Originally Posted by Rah

Apparently Machi's hair is the same color as Hayate's. Dunno bout his eye color. This is him, right?

Spoiler for Machiburgers:

Is it a coincidence? Perhaps he resembled Hayate when she found him? Hmmhmm...

Machina's hair is grey.
Anyway, the Sister seems to know Machina. She didn't mistake him for Hayate.

Koroshiya_Kame_13 · 2009-10-28, 00:00

So will Machina go back immediately now that the sister asked him whether it was all right to leave his Ojou-sama at home at this time of the night?

Rah · 2009-10-28, 00:04

*rubs eyes*

Damn, those colors are weak! ........................... Nop. My eyes are fucked. I'm still seeing it slightly teal..

Lol.

Well, who careeeeeesssssssss! Hahahaha! *shoots himself*

arand017 · 2009-10-28, 00:36

well hata did promise that the battle will end next chapter....

Game8910 · 2009-10-28, 00:54

if you cant wait any more

Spoiler for ch 246 translation:

arand017 · 2009-10-28, 01:31

thank you very much for the translation

Wolfnagi · 2009-10-28, 02:11

hey guys, i just came back from a war crime convention and it is interesting.
By the way, is there already traslated chapter 246?

Koroshiya_Kame_13 · 2009-10-28, 02:48

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Originally Posted by wolftsaufi

By the way, is there already traslated chapter 246?

Translated, yes. Scanlated, no. What Game8910 posted was the translation for this chapter from Mangahelpers. I already read the RAW and the Chinese scanlations so I'm waiting for the spoilers for chapter 247.

kniteowl · 2009-10-28, 04:51

The Chapter has been scanlated by leemeru

Do you think Isumi will need some of Hayate's blood to combat Athena? lol

Wolfnagi · 2009-10-28, 04:56

Yes!!
Finally, chapter 246 has been scanlated at mangafox at 5.24 p.m

2009-10-27, 12:24	Link #4043
Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Hata also said he made a mistake with the Chinese characters for Isumi's technique. He used "建御電神" which would roughly translate as: "Rise, great lightning god." What he wanted to use was "建御雷神" which would be: "Rise, great thunder god." __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2009-10-27, 20:50	Link #4049
Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Meh... I don't really feel like it, and it's not really my thing. I just wanted to point out your scenario strayed too much from the point of this battler, and moreover, of this arc. Usually, I'd say there could be other ways to bring Midas down, since there are many types of strength other than offensive power, but being the type of story this is, I wouldn't expect any of them to rely on battle tactics. Personally, I think there'll be a sudden power-up (well, this what I'd rather see, compared to something corny like Hayate telling Athena his feelings, and then Athena trying to gain control of herself after that - which is also another possibility). __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2009-10-27, 23:12	Link #4050
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	Damn, you're analytical. feels cold Brrrrrrr! shiver shiver shiver Ummm... Right, well, umm... Make something up already! You're no fun. No fun at all! Okay, so, we need more color to the manga now (not literally). Hmmm... Ah, I got it! Suddenly, out of nowhere Ayumu storms in by breaking down a huge wall with a tractor, wielding Hina like a broadsword, which in turn is wielding Miki as her weapon of choice (she likes it anyway, since she's being "used" by her), shouting on top of her lungs "LEEEEEEEERRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYY....!!!"; Hina is about to finish the battle cry, but Midas blasts them to orbit with a flick of a finger, but just then they're hit by Halley's comet and divert it's orbit to the Earth, riding it down the stratosphere while Hina jams "The Final Countdown" by using Miki as a guitar. Just as the chorus hit, Hina throws Miki like the Gae Bolg, piercing Midas! Upon contact.. a blinding flash, followed by Halley's comet impacting upon Athena's mansion! It goes through the earth shaping it like a doughnut, which later Homer eats. THE END! bows In b4 "Sugoi monogatari aniki" xD Edit~ Apparently Machi's hair is the same color as Hayate's. Dunno bout his eye color. This is him, right? Spoiler for Machiburgers: Is it a coincidence? Perhaps he resembled Hayate when she found him? Hmmhmm... Anyways, IMHO the color doesn't fit. Well, opinions change.. who knows.. Last edited by Rah; 2009-10-27 at 23:39.

2009-10-28, 00:54	Link #4055
Game8910 Shanacon/Ariafag Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: a room full of despair Age: 34	if you cant wait any more Spoiler for ch 246 translation: Chapter 246 01 Sakuya: Well, you seem pretty injured... Sakuya: but are you okay? Hayate: Sakuya-san...and Isumi-san? What are you doing here? Sakuya: Well, about that... Isumi: We don't have time to explain. Sakuya: Eh? Isumi: It doesn't look like... Isumi: she plans on giving up just yet. Text in left margin: What is that that has appeared behind Athena...!? 02 Text in right margin: These two people whose power exceeds that of man or of the butler...will clash!? Athena: I don't know who you are or where you came from... Title: Chapter 246 "The Strongest vs. The Invincible" 03 Athena: But you're in the way!! Sakuya: Nwoooh! Here it coooomes!! Sakuya: We're dead!! Sakuya: We're dead, Isumi-saaan!! Isumi: Don't worry. We won't die from just this. Isumi: With this level of spiritual attack... Isumi: my barrier can repel it all!! 04 SFX: crack Isumi: Ah...no fair... Sakuya: Hey, you're kidding, right...? Sakuya: Nwaaaaah!! 05 Sakuya: Wait, Isumi-san!! What is this evil spirit!! Isumi: That is not an evil spirit. Sakuya: Eh? Isumi: It is an honored spirit... Isumi: An ancient spirit that possessed divinity whose name would appear somewhere in legend... Isumi: So...that means... Isumi: It possesses much greater power than a vengeful evil spirit would. Hayate: But...!! Why is something like that... Hayate: with her...!! Isumi: I do not know. Isumi: She is not by nature the type of person who would be possessed by that... Isumi: If she had the necessary power, she shouldn't have had an opening through which it could possess her... Isumi: What I think is... 06 Isumi: She must have had an extremely painful... Isumi: deep despair in her past... Hayate: Eh? Isumi: Things like that possess people through openings in their hearts. Isumi: For it to possess her when she had that much power... Isumi: something must have happened in her past... Isumi: that was truly, truly painful. It must have been so hard on her, that she wanted to die... 07 Isumi: A deep sadness that she could not stand... Isumi: even though she has... Isumi: so much power... Hayate: A deep sadness that... Hayate: she could not stand? Hayate: Then could that be... Hayate: what happened back then? Hayate: Then that's... Hayate: my fault...? 08 Hayate: ...My... Athena: Seriously... Athena: Could you maybe not destroy people's homes? Isumi: She's the one who did it. Sakuya: It was her!! Isumi: But if destroying your house even to destroy us was not your true intent... Isumi: I'm hoping that we can discuss this peaceably... Athena: Is that so? Athena: But what do you want to talk about? 09 Isumi: About the castle... Isumi: in which a god is said to live. Isumi: Or perhaps... Isumi: about the king who tried, but failed, to become a god. Athena: We have nothing to discuss. 10 11 Sakuya: Oh!! Way to go, Isumi-san!! 12 Isumi: This may be a bit rude... Isumi: but I will first suppress that honored spirit and then have you talk!! Isumi: Technique Style - Eighth Leaf 13 Isumi: Takemikazuchi!!! [TN: This is the name of a god from Japanese mythology.] Sakuya: Oh!! You did it, Isumi-san!! 14 SFX: twitch Sakuya: Owaaph!! 15 Athena: Did you... Athena: do something just now? Sakuya: Hey, Isumi-san!! Sakuya: It's completely fine!! Sakuya: Could you not go easy on it and do more of a one-hit kill or something!!! 16 Isumi: It didn't work...? Isumi: No way... Sakuya: Eh? Athena: You look surprised. Athena: Could it be that... Athena: you've never met someone stronger than you... Athena: before now? Text in right margin: Athena and the spirit that has possessed her...their power is beyond that of a human and she is no longer the Athena of old...! __________________ HEY GUYS BE NICE AND VISIT MY BLOG WILL YA? Latest Update: Spring 2011 Impressions (part1) Spring 2011 Impressions (part2)

2009-10-28, 02:11	Link #4057
Wolfnagi Ojou-sama Familiar!!!!!!! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: God knows where I am now....	hey guys, i just came back from a war crime convention and it is interesting. By the way, is there already traslated chapter 246? __________________

2009-10-27, 13:15	Link #4044
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	I get the feeling that he's just making shit up as he goes. Usually he'd just have to use material from other manga / anime / other sources, and make parodies... But now... It's sort of original. There might be parodies of some things in this arc as well, but, well.. at least I didn't notice any. Have you? I wonder how it will end now that he has to think up stuff instead of just "borrowing" it from elsewhere.

2009-10-27, 17:25	Link #4046
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	Didn't Hata say that Isumin' & Athena are the two most powerful characters in the manga? How do you expect a wounded Hayate to overcome what Isumin' couldn't? And against 1 arm at that! I predict their defeat, but successful escape. It would be the right time for Nagi to learn about Hayate's past relationship, and Isumin's powers. And just when they're talking about it, Maria gets a flashback, or hears the voice of Midas by telepathy, hypnotizing her into stealing Hayate's gem. Obviously she does so at night when everyone is sleeping. The next morning when they wake up Maria is nowhere to be found, and Hayate realizes that the gem is also gone. They fear that she was kidnapped, and go searching for her. They find clues that she returned to Japan, so Nagi gets a fighter jet squadron, and everyone flies over to the rescue! Only to realize later that she betrayed them.. huhuhu.. Buuuuutt....... probably not. If Hata is following the legend, then perhaps Midas's daughter is really a statue, and perhaps Midas wants to undo what he did to her (turned her to gold). Or... he might fuck up the chronological order of events, and decide to later turn her into a statue (if she's not a new character). Hmm... ~2 days till spoilers. Now I can't wait! I think that the next chapter is gonna be conclusive! If not, then the one after that. Wonder who's right? How will it end?

2009-10-27, 19:23	Link #4048
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	You agree, you disagree, yadda, yadda... You create a fitting scenario for a change! Don't be a lazy bum, and think of something. No less than 200 words. GO!

2009-10-28, 00:00	Link #4052
Koroshiya_Kame_13 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Hitman League	So will Machina go back immediately now that the sister asked him whether it was all right to leave his Ojou-sama at home at this time of the night?

2009-10-28, 00:04	Link #4053
Rah Are you a lolicon? :3 Join Date: Aug 2009	rubs eyes Damn, those colors are weak! ........................... Nop. My eyes are fucked. I'm still seeing it slightly teal.. Lol. Well, who careeeeeesssssssss! Hahahaha! shoots himself

2009-10-28, 00:36	Link #4054
arand017 Member Join Date: Aug 2009	well hata did promise that the battle will end next chapter....

2009-10-28, 01:31	Link #4056
arand017 Member Join Date: Aug 2009	thank you very much for the translation

2009-10-28, 04:51	Link #4059
kniteowl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	The Chapter has been scanlated by leemeru Do you think Isumi will need some of Hayate's blood to combat Athena? lol __________________

2009-10-28, 04:56	Link #4060
Wolfnagi Ojou-sama Familiar!!!!!!! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: God knows where I am now....	Yes!! Finally, chapter 246 has been scanlated at mangafox at 5.24 p.m __________________