On the subject of power ups and whether Misaka needs one, I believe that TAMNI can be seen as a deconstruction of the shounen genre. Each new antagonist is stronger than the last, yet the power of the protagonists does not increase in proportion, if at all. Instead, they always find a way to deal with the newest threat with the means available to them, without trying to exceed the raw power of their opponents.
There's a message in that. You don't need the power of a god to accomplish your goals. If anything, such power destroys its wielder. Just look at Thor, who can no longer remember if he became stronger to save people, or if he saved people to become stronger. All anyone has to do is what they can with what they have. Nobody has the right to ask more.
Misaka doesn't need a power up to stand by Touma's side and even if she got one, it wouldn't be enough. I mean, Touma himself isn't particularly strong, yet he accomplishes great feats despite that, or perhaps even because of that. All Misaka has to do is change the way she thinks and fights, so that she can approach Touma without changing who she is. Whether she will realize that or not is another matter.
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Originally Posted by SomeDude!
Awakening is not Shifting to LV 6. There appears to be multiple paths to becoming a LV6, and they seem to get different results.
There's the Curriculum path, the one that Accelerator would have gotten to with 250 more years of Curriculum... This seems to be the most likely way to get the most normal looking LV6...
The More Calculation Power path, which Gensei attempted on Mikoto via. Exterior-Forced, and Exterior-Enhanced, Misaka Network link-up.
The Repeated Awakening Path, which is what Accelerator and Kakine are on...
The Combat Path, attempted with the Absolute Power Evolution Plan, which is the Radio Noise Battlefield Plan, is yet another path.
The Ability Body Crystal Path... Which, given Takitsubo, is temporary.
They'll all get espers into the power level of a LV6, but anything else is path-dependent, and of course, you could mix paths...
And they might be able to get one by sticking a LV5 into a Coffin, maybe...
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A few corrections:
1) Kakine has never been outright stated to be able to reach level 6. He is considered the spare for Accelerator, but perhaps this is because he might be able to replace the need for a level 6 in Aleister's plan entirely without reaching that level. Maybe Aleister needs the stuff that Accelerator's wings are made of, but Kakine's Dark Matter could provide a passable surrogate. Anyway, we don't know for sure.
2) Takitsubo was never even hinted at being able to reach level 6, only level 5. The Ability Body Crystal was part of an attempt to reach SYSTEM, but that attempt was based around Haruue Erii, not Takitsubo.
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Originally Posted by tsunade666
explode? where did you read about exploding if one become level 6?
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That's probably referencing the fact that Misaka would have collapsed upon reaching level 6, taking AC down with her. Presumably the same fate would await anyone other than Accelerator.
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even a lvl 6... I still don't see them winning a against a magic god.
We haven't seen a lvl 6 yet but from progression from what was shown in partial evolution?
its not enough.
Sure maybe, a lvl 6 would be enough to be a planet buster but not universe manipulator lvl.
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Ollerus has shown us that there is a huge gulf between almost becoming a Majin and actually reaching that level. He was just barely able to match Othinus with her 50% restriction, but that was as far as he could go. He didn't even have a trillionth of the power a full Majin should have and I'm willing to bet that even if he hadn't lost his special powers, he wouldn't have been a match for any of the Majins even after they were nerfed by Aleister.
Level 6 is probably the same. 100% completion is probably incalculably above even 99% completion, let alone 50%. You can't measure the potential of level 6 just from the scraps we've seen so far.
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Originally Posted by LevelSeven
this doesnt mean that it wasnt a power up :/
it is, and it is also a power up, they get stronger right?
toumas precognition mentioned in Vol.20 is also a power up, doesnt matter if it is well-written or some random as*pull 
n-not really,
we have fiamma who got several power ups,
accel got power ups several times and only got nerfed once,
we have othinus who also got several power ups and got only nerfed once,
kakine gets several power ups without nerfing but still gets defeated again and again,
acqua got 2 nerfings and no power up,
the majins got nerfed once,
vento got nerfed,
styil got temporary power up in the war arc,
index gets temporary power up as pendex,
mugino got power up in NT12,
mikoto got power up as Lvl5.5,
misaki got power up via exterior,
ollerus got nerfed, brunhild got power up with incomplete gungnir in kanzaki SS, kazakiri got temporary power up with angel-mode,
i cant remember more :/ but im sure there are some waiting to be mentioned |
By that logic, I power up whenever I put my shoes on. I believe that to qualify as a true power up, your actual inherent powers have to increase, or you have to receive an item that is bound to you such that it can be considered your own power. Your extra power can't come from a source that can be taken from you.
According to this definition, I believe that the only real power ups we've seen so far are Accelerator's, Kakine's and maybe, just maybe, Takitsubo's. Temporary increases in power are a dime a dozen in TAMNI, but true, permanent power ups are rare.
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Originally Posted by ~Greed~
So, anyone think there's a chance of Fiamma taking Kakeru's arm after Kakeru is inevitably beaten? It's been made obvious that he still has the Holy Right, but lacks control of it due lacking a suitable arm to contain it. I'd think Kakeru's arm would be a usable replacement. After all, Imagine Breaker was capable of integrating with the Holy Right, albeit imperfectly.
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The chance of this happening is almost zero, for two reasons:
1) Kamachi has never been known to completely undo a nerf to a character. Even if they can regain part of their power, it is never by undoing what nerfed them in the first place. Accelerator's wings may make him stronger than he was before his brain damage, but they do not undo it. At the end of the day, he still has brain damage regardless of how many times he uses his wings and has to rely on the Misaka Network in his daily life.
2) If WR is anything like IB, then it cannot be stolen and will make Kakeru's arm regrow if it is destroyed. Fiamma taking Kakeru's arm would only lead to a repeat of what happened in Volume 22.
Then again, I've been wrong before. I thought a Magic God couldn't be much stronger than Fiamma, if at all, and I was wrong. I thought there couldn't be more Magic Gods after Othinus and I was wrong. I thought true Gremlin would get a long arc to themselves and I was wrong. Kamachi finds ways to surprise me at every turn, so I won't completely discount any possibility.
and what would be with toumas IB who seeks his hosts and could leave hhim at anytime?
