2013-05-07, 17:18 | Link #961 | |
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It's a matter of choosing language for maximum effect. I notice Relentlessflame's call to halt discussion as "gun control". With the word "control", what does that associate with? Loss of power. Seizing to that of a greater (but human controlled) power. I can easily understand the fear associated with that, because like hell would I want to give up certain freedoms to control too. Most notably, anything pertaining to the Internet, like the SOPA, PIPA, and other similar bills seeping into Congress. When I was hearing Obama calling Social Security and Medicare as "entitlement programs"... that's when an alarm should kick in. When "one side or the other" begin to adopt each other's language, that's when y'know views are being extended. And I'll have to give credit to the Republicans, when it comes to language use. Their constant use of the "Two Word Sound-byte" had long been effective, such that their vocabulary dominates discussion. So yea, there's a much bigger issue here. It's a matter of steering America towards a "safe society" rather than that of "destruction". With this, I'm looking at the likes of Wall Street, who'd still profit from something like that.
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2013-05-07, 17:25 | Link #962 |
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All politics involves word loading - it is basic to the topic. Define the words being used and you can control the debate before it starts.
I try not to use the word "pirate" or "piracy" in regard to copyright issues. Piracy is about killing people, looting the corpses, and sinking/stealing the ships. Not the same thing at all as making a digital copy ("replicators"). I avoid the word "intellectual property" because it isn't a legal term, it's a conflation of copyright, patent, and trademark laws - all very different things. It also tries to create the bogus idea of ideas or thoughts as "property" which has legal precedent only as a term for physical artifacts. Anti-choice versus pro-life ... because pro-lifers are also very often "don't care after you're born" types (raise the hypocrisy flag). Yeah, the "entitlement" mislabeling is particularly infuriating. Should I call tax evasion by large corporations "entitlements"? They don't even pay into the system like Social Security participants do. Example abound through time and space. Control the language and you can corral the argument be you left, right, up or down.
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2013-05-07, 19:32 | Link #963 | |
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Gay rights amendment offered to immigration bill in Congress
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2013-05-07, 19:59 | Link #964 | ||
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* If it passes, they'll have to answer to the party base. * If it is rejected, there goes their effort towards Latino outreach.
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2013-05-07, 20:05 | Link #966 | |
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Back to politics, has anyone been following former governor of South Carolina Mark Sanford? This was the guy who totally disappeared from office for a few days without leaving a word, such that even his aids didn't know where he was. It then turned out that he was in South America, seeing his mistress, cheating on his wife. That's pretty ballsy, not to mention totally irresponsible, amoral, unethical, and just poor behavior overall. Well, apparently the guy is even ballsier, because he ran for a seat in the House of Representatives in the same state. And amazingly, CNN is projecting that he's going to win this race. I'm really surprised. The guy exhibited poor judgment and poor behavior, and he might win - he's doing well enough to likely win? Was his opponent that bad, are South Carolina voters that forgiving, or do people just have really, really short memories?
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2013-05-07, 20:08 | Link #967 |
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Sanford can win because he is running in a SUPER Republican state. The only reason the election was newsworthy was that he was such a horrible candidate, and that means there was a tiny chance he might lose.
As Maddow said, we are about to find out how bad a R can be while still get elected.
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2013-05-07, 20:14 | Link #969 | |
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Here's my take on this Sanford vote. As religious as many of these voters claim to be -- apparently, adultery is totally acceptable. If that's the case, how many of 'em have hot wives?
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2013-05-07, 20:18 | Link #970 |
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Politicians and morality do not mix.
But hey! Better an adulterer and a liar then someone that commits the crime of supporting abortion that kills many lives. Remember, pro-choicers are now worse than Hitler. And also, he's white, so he's less likely to steal from people.
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2013-05-07, 22:16 | Link #971 | |
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You don't even have to believe the shit you say to get elected. Ahh, GOP morality....yeaaaaah, right.
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2013-05-08, 02:46 | Link #973 | |
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Disgraced South Carolina ex-governor Sanford wins House seat http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...9460BI20130508 Edit: GOP Benghazi probe stokes political controversy http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...05-08-03-12-35 Not much of a surprise here.
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2013-05-08, 10:41 | Link #974 | |
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Analysis: Hedge funds in search of distress take a look at Detroit
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2013-05-08, 12:26 | Link #975 | |
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2013-05-08, 15:17 | Link #977 | |
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Here's another issue that's not getting a limelight:
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2013-05-08, 15:19 | Link #978 | |
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2013-05-08, 15:38 | Link #979 | |
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Yes that is the logic - a Wall Street has a better chance of earning money than a student. Therefore a student holds more risk due to lack of job opportunities. I only agree with this when the student studies art or philosophy. Even culinary and fashion studies has a higher chance of landing the students in a job as ad-hoc fresh-catering chefs and freelance image consultants, and like most developed countries, there is a huge fucking shortage AND appreciation for Engineers. I still cannot understand why someone who moves money in and out of the bank can get paid more than someone who designs, builds and maintain machines to reduce physical workload and get things done faster with less risk of human casualties.
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2013-05-08, 15:45 | Link #980 | |
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