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Because the vast majority of thugs, murderers and thieves, do not learn anything from their mistakes? Not to mention the political society.
Grow because people make mistakes, people grow up with work, dedication, willpower and lots pesistencia, no one is bound to make mistakes to become a great person. so for me to get ahead in life, I precisso make mistakes? If you are a doctor and make mistakes, these mistakes cost the life of a person. |
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As for the type of military training that his classmates recieved, based off of what was shown breifly in episode one, I'm going to say it was a lot more than just general military training. Its even evident in the fact that when they got drafted they knew exactly what to do from the start. Clam knows how to fine tune kats, nina can effectively pilot an aircraft carrier. The students can do these things at their age... I find it rediculous that you can learn all these specialized skills in different areas with "general" training. Hell the officer that talks to Nina when she was practicing on the aircraft carrier specifically asked her what she scored in a class design to teach her what she was doing... Thats not generalized...
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2014-09-10, 09:56 | Link #1903 |
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Okay, blowing up the hill is a part of 10 years old heir specialized training.
Then, being spectacular at school and military training + having a sister being one of the better soldier can also add up to the skills Inaho have shown so far. Of course, he can't be as good as L-Elf, and he don't need to be. Alright, while we can go on and on with these arguments upon assumptions, I'm done with the comparision. But anyone could start it when they feel like it. I'm actually more interested in how the work is being designed, like why are characters are designed as they are right now. |
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2014-09-10, 11:09 | Link #1908 |
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I don't know about anyone else, but I for one but I for one just find Inaho boring. With others I think its a combination of being tired of seeing him win, and want to see him lose and suffer a bit, or simply don't like him, since they perceive him to be a Gary Stu, and because of the bad writing. Can's say much about the Slaine hate though.
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2014-09-10, 11:09 | Link #1909 |
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Just throwing this out here:
What if there is an (almost) dedicated episode of Inaho for the opening episode (or second) of season two, where we get a glimpse of his past, whatever "normal" it may be, and see the entirety of the first season through his point of view, so to speak. A typical 'recap episode' where we may learn or observe more of Inaho (and possibly his sister and friends). Just a thought.
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2014-09-10, 11:13 | Link #1912 |
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I guess. Who knows, he may even be like this in his head:
"What! This girl me threw into the ground! She ain't normal." Episode 2, I think. Or, like that one fanart of Inaho about Asseylum-chan. Spoiler for Asseylum-chan:
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2014-09-10, 11:20 | Link #1913 | |
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I would have agreed with you except that would cut into his time on Gaim which is a big fragging NO for me. (Seriously, those crossovers in Gaim? Some time right in the middle of an epic cliffhanger)
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Hell, his "It's a war" line sounds like he's trying to convince himself. |
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2014-09-10, 11:23 | Link #1914 | |
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I'm not a die hard lover of his writing, but the show has been very mediocre at best with clumsy characterization and pacing issues.
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2014-09-10, 11:27 | Link #1915 | ||||
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First off you don't actually rebuttle any of my points and only say mainly one thing which I don't really agree with. "Inaho is good at everything" and straight up no, this is not true, hes just a hard worker, smart, and takes things seriously. It just appears that way because the writter doesn't give his supporting cast more moments over Inaho. There is only one character that sorta has some value and thats the Captian, she at least makes some sound decisions, outside of not assisting Inaho with the CPR that was just dumb. Actually can we rewrite that whole scene all together....
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Inaho wasn't written to be a great at everything character. Inaho was written to be a compentent student who takes the time to learn and further his education. Thats what makes him different than every other Terran character that we have been presented with. This doesn't make him good at everything, it just gives the allusion that he is, because he was written to care about the training he recieved (while his friends probably goofed off). Inaho has made many countless errors and gotten lucky on many occassions. He's missed shots and was saved by slaine (obviously hes not a master marksman), acted rashly first vlad fight and been saved by the other Terran forces arriving just in time. Relies on other people to help execute his plans. When he succeeds he does so with ample time to evalutate the situation and come up with a strategy. The Femieanne fight was taken place over an entire night into morning, Vald second fight he had time to process the mechs capabilities from their first encounter, Trillam's fight he had a whole day to test and devise an approach. Its not like he gets in a mech and instantly god modes the martians. He evalutes and studies and thats what makes him who he is. (If anything you should worry about that happening to Slaine if they just make him get this Martian Kat and beat Sauz with some super awesome kat move) The problem is none of the other supporting cast was given a trait that makes them unique, they don't shine at lot and in turn it also puts the burned on Inaho to look like hes doing all the work. However calling the kid great at everything isn't true. (I feel like i've repeated this countless times, sorry in advance ) As for Inaho's back story, well I just feel like Slaine was the focus for this first season, I can almost guarentee Inaho will have character depth next season and will learn just who he is and what made him. Just because we haven't gotten that yet is no reason to bash the kid yet. Now when this series finishes if they don't ever do it, well then I'd really like to have a talk with the writters. Quote:
As for your genralized training that students get according to you, you've yet really provided me with evidence that supports there being just generial training. I've given you context exactly from the show that shows they do more than get in a mech shoot some bullets and take a standardized military procedures class. They have given names to specialized classes, they've shown traits of knowldge in multiple areas of fields of study for it to be generalized and honestly I'm just going to say you are down right wrong until you can provide counter context to my text. If anything the only thing we dont see is their skills sets from what we consider normal high school classes outside of Inaho's ability to understand chemistry and physics (and home ec, gotta cook those eggs!). I honestly beg to question if they actually had what we consider normal classes at their school. Oh wait they had histroy! Forgot they talked about that class, but that seemed to only focus on Martian interaction and culture and heavens gate, seems like thats a class for learning about the enemy...
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2014-09-10, 11:32 | Link #1917 | |
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Rayet, iirc, was part of the terrorist group and participated in the assassination plan. She was a more sinister character who had a role and presence since the first episode. About Slaine, all I know is that he less in for the princess and more wishing for things to change in Mars-Earth because of the state of tension between the planets. He's got more mixed feelings about all (Cruhteo was way more abusive and despicable in the draft, while Saazbaum was more noble as contrast). The Cruhtheo and Slaine thing seem to be truth because I found a couple of floating pages about it. Cruhteo seems to hate Slaine's father for some reason too.
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2014-09-10, 11:35 | Link #1918 | |
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Also about the generalized training the evidence is there from episode 1, if you can't see it for yourself then you're not paying attention. However, if you want to say that they have anymore training beyond that, then the burden of proof is on you, since the characters made no mention of it, claiming that a character has special training would go beyond the information established and that is your duty to prove it, because you're the one whose trying to claim it. |
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As for Rayet, well I don't know. Though I sincerely hope his plan didn't include a Mitsuzane for Aldnoah Zero. (which, in hindsight is probably impossible considering that the theme is "Lies") |
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2014-09-10, 11:42 | Link #1920 | |
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Rayet was reported changed because they didn't want her so 'dark', iirc. If anyone had the super genius soldier was probably her and not Inaho.
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