2009-12-20, 14:45 | Link #5141 | |
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Or maybe it would have been better to send that message only to me since you seem to be only interested in my answer to this question, for whatever reasons, but these forums are meant for open discussion, not dialogs. But since you asked openly you deserve an open answer, so here is my private answer again, somewhat edited and extended to be more clear: (First of all, if I had children, before I even start to decide who babysits them, I would make sure not to brag about their existence on the internet or an anime forum in particular.) As for a lifelong prison sentence I already made my point clear and see no real use in repeating myself. I've heard enough gruesome stories often coupled with the "you do not love your children!!!" angle and hearing another one doesn't make much of a difference. Now, I said nobody should be brought to jail without the chance ever to get out again. I did not say nobody should be denied the right to babysit my (real or imaginary) daughters. These are obviously two different things. There are a lot of people I wouldn't let babysit those daughters which does not imply I want to see them all locked up in prison. The world would become quite empty if this was the case. Now, why are you even bringing my potential daughters into this? Are you genuinely interested in their well-being or are they just an excuse to wallow in your feelings of revenge against some murderer? Looking into the statistics I see that the cars on the street before my house and drivers that consider them their penis extension are a more real threat than a potential psychopathic murderer on the loose or even a potential neighbor that is a potentially psychopathic potential murderer, according to Xellos but not according to a specialist. So acting out of love for my children instead of hate for some murderer somewhere in a different country I'd rather spend my energy more effectively on pressing to reduce individual traffic in this city that has a well-working public transport system, for example. Another real danger to children, by the way, are overprotective parents producing messed up adults that aren't capable of standing on their own feet out in the real world where mommy and daddy aren't around anymore to catch them when they fall. Yes, parenting is not easy. And as for my other female relatives, they are either adults or have parents by themselves. And my male relatives too. I'm not sure if I will be around again in the next few days, so I wish everybody a Merry Christmas and that you'll follow your positive emotions rather than your negative ones. I promise to try that by myself too.
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2009-12-20, 15:01 | Link #5142 | ||
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2009-12-20, 16:43 | Link #5145 | ||
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And any case in the real world you could construct that comes close to us just "knowing" is already enough for the authorities to take any action necessary. If not, there are probably good reasons for this. You "simplify the situation" up to a point where it doesn't have any contact with reality anymore. What if I just know I'm right and you are wrong? You can justify literally anything if you just know of looming consequences grave enough. Quote:
That's already being done and "priced into" the statistics. You're actual point is that some people should never come out of prison, period. Because they've crossed a line beyonfd you're not willing to care anymore.Then just say that. Don't tell me that there are risks. I know that. There are risks and chances in everything we do and that's why we have to make balanced decisions. But don't simply construct a probability of one and argue from there.
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And are you sure about the "But ...". I'm not 100 percent "safe" neither are you. Probably not even 99.9999 percent. So obviously, the number of killed children (and of killed ugly old men with smelly feet for that matter) could be reduced if all people were under video observation 24/7. Or in prison. You could pull the very same argumentation in this case but I don't think you're willing to do that. So please analyze for yourself which arguments make a difference here and which don't. All I can conclude is that you make a difference between average humans and convicted murderers (probably also depending on the circumstances of the murder, though I'm not sure). Which we all do but without coming to the same conclusions. Your conclusion is, if I got you right "I don't care what the psychologists say, I don't wanna hear, just keep him under lock." This is something we could argue endlessly about. But I'm not buying this "I demand all necessary measures to ensure100 percent security" argument in itself.
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2009-12-20, 23:12 | Link #5150 | ||
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The extra "pork" that has been added to get the 60 vote minimum will also grow the cost; I mentioned in the "U.S. Health Care" thread that I felt spending a few billion is a small cost for the U.S. if it means healthy and productive residents/employees/citizens in the end, but the plan looks... scary. Quote:
Slightly off-topic: I'm a bit surprised that very little news on the Supreme Court decision to not hear the case on how the U.S. can declare someone to be a combatant, and then he essentially becomes a non-entity. It now stands as precedent, and can't be overturned except through legislation. Unemployment (U-3) will likely remain at or above/near the 10% mark for awhile, IMHO - maybe through the 2nd quarter of 2010? It may get worse if the private sector doesn't step up. At the moment, public spending is pretty much propping up some big parts of the economy, and that can't last. China has already hinted that buying U.S. debt can't continue forever. Real unemployment (U-6) may approach 18-20% mark (very unlikely to reach that high, though); it was already 17% a month ago.
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2009-12-21, 02:56 | Link #5154 |
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At 32, the likely causes of cardiac arrest would be a pre-existing heart condition (possibly congenital), something she ingested (drugs, toxins etc.) or a thrombus/embolus (not very likely).
Ramen Girl will be missed.
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2009, grabs another celeb to take to the otherside. Last I heard she wasn't working much, so I guess she may have began to settle down and become a mother but it wasn't to be. Eitherway, hope she rests in peace
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2009-12-21, 05:21 | Link #5157 | |
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Skinny is beautiful only when you are a loli. Nyan~.
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