2012-07-25, 06:34 | Link #542 | ||
U mad?
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My opinion is that he learned he should only keep personal info a secret (level, skills, beater etc), but distribute and inform other players about enemies. When Klein wanted to know the conditions for [Dual Blades], Kirito stated he would have told others if he had known, which I say is really unselfish in a game like SAO. Telling others the conditions for a skill which only you have and is overpowered? How many other players would have done the same? Quote:
Along with Sachi's last message and helping Silica, a normal mid-level player, proved that even he can help others, though I agree that the months between the Red-nosed Reindeer and The Black Swordsman should get some attention. Turning from close to suicidal to someone who can converse and joke with the others is a big step.
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2012-07-25, 06:43 | Link #543 | |
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2012-07-25, 07:05 | Link #545 |
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He also used her as bait to catch the PKers. And he himself proved in the same scene that a skilled opponent could prevent her from using her crystal in an emergency. Taking her to the dungeon was one thing, but using her as bait for a known PKer is just... well, not the Kirito we would see immediately after episode 3.
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2012-07-25, 10:13 | Link #548 | |
→ Wandering Bard
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Now his entire harem makes complete sense. xD
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2012-07-25, 13:03 | Link #550 |
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So, it seems Anime staff made a mistake by animating side story before a main story.
Right now, people complain about how fast the story go (Jump from floor 1 to 28, 49 something like that) and how the plot doesn't make any sense in term of conncection between each ep. This guy (5HAD0WFREAK) 's post reflect anime watchers' opinion very well. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topici...60#msg16046103 I am not VN readers but I like to read spoiler so I know what will happen in future. Seriously, I was very surprise to find out that SAO's part only takes 1 volumes (2 if you count side story in vol.2 ) to finish and then MC move to play other game. I and probably all anime watchers right now thought/think that the whole story will be all about SAO............
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2012-07-25, 13:51 | Link #552 |
WHERE'S...MY...COW????
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Hmm, Black Swordsman is probably one of the easiest to adapt, though it does indeed come across as strange coming after RNR since while Kirito is still rather closed off he comes across being okay.
I'm curious how Fairy Dance will be adapted having finished it recently. The fact that it doesn't jump around much will probably make it easier to understand as it doesn't have all the jumps Aincrad has. Still, I imagine they'll likely cut some things, but am not sure what exactly.
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2012-07-25, 14:11 | Link #553 | ||
U mad?
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But in the end Dual Blades is an unique skill, ordinary extra skills wouldn't give you that big of an advantage. Quote:
Kirito could snatch the crystal because no one stood between them and his sprint level was high, if an orange player tried that he'd have to get through Kirito first before taking the crystal. Edit: I hope Silica's armour will looks like Vol. 2, after getting and equipping what she got from Kirito, her current armour looks rather plain
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2012-07-25, 18:25 | Link #554 | ||
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Think about this too: there are only a finite number of players in the game. And only a fraction of those have the potential to be a skilled clearer. And only a fraction of those have been playing long enough and efficiently enough to be high enough level to participate. It's simply impractical to replace people when they die. And they will die, even if the clearers are making steady progress. Just due to attrition the number of clearers will decrease over time. I wouldn't be surprised if the top guilds were forced to merge if the game had gone on to the end. So in that sense, letting the other clearers die for your own short-term glory is just screwing yourself in the long run, and hardly helpful in the short run either. I'm sure a few people are stupid enough to do that, but it can't be most of them since they're all experienced veterans of this death game. I'm sure you'll want to mention the Silver Dragon Alliance who apparently try to get as many rare items as they can at the expense of others, but rare items are a limited resource. They need to monopolize them as much as possible to protect their own. Knowledge is not a limited resource. Other people knowing your secret skills doesn't hurt you at all. The more people who know it, the better off everyone is. Maybe you'll even get some new recruits from it. I can imagine selling it for a one-time profit, but keeping it a guild secret is absolutely stupid. Quote:
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2012-07-25, 19:36 | Link #555 | |
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2012-07-25, 19:42 | Link #556 | |
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2012-07-25, 20:56 | Link #557 |
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It's literally impossible to tell someone's level without looking at their status screen, which they'd have to show you themselves. I doubt the people in the orange guild even know each other's levels with any precision, let alone outsiders. And even if you think someone's weak, what if they're just using weak equipment and saving a trumpcard? What if they had called in a higher level friend who hadn't worked with them before? And even if they can't hurt Kirito they might be able to pin him down long enough to attack Silica. There are way too many variables to have 100% confidence. 90% confidence, sure, but would Kirito bet on that 10% not happening so soon after his tragedy?
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2012-07-25, 21:31 | Link #558 | |
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While your what-ifs are certainly not impossible, they make no logical sense in this context. It makes no sense for the bandits to go on a suicide charge against Kirito to kill Scilica. They're there to kill weak players and rob their valuables, not to throw their life away for no apparent reason. There's also no reason for them to pretend to be weak and hide any "trump" cards, nor is there a way for them to call in any high level "friends" - there is no instant teleport to friends/party member abilities in SAO. Any help they can call upon would already have to be there with them, which again makes no sense as they're bandits going to ambush a couple poor sods, not trying to fight an all-out battle against a top level player from the clearing group, which is rather far-removed from their level of players. While it's true that one can never be 100% sure, in this particular case it's about as certain as one can possibly be. Also keep in mind that the pleads from the sole surviving leader of the guild that was wiped out probably struck at particular chord with Kirito given what happened earlier. |
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2012-07-25, 21:46 | Link #559 | |
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No reason to hold trump cards? Of course there's a reason to hold trump cards. Pkers have more reason to hold trump cards than any other player... They rely completely on having the upper hand at all times. It's risky enough when your targets are monsters, but when attacking humans you have to be ready for anything. And they knew she had an unknown escort who was higher level, high enough to trivialize the dungeon as well as give Silica good enough equipment to trivialize it on her own. Most of the PKers we've seen have relies on tricks and poisons and such. PKers in the clearing groups? Oh hey, wasn't there one in volume 1? What's-his-face who infiltrated KoB? That was kind of a major plot point. And, well, the leader of the gang in this particular story also blended in nicely with the peaceful players. Just because you're an orange player doesn't mean you're always orange. Who knows how many people in the clearing group would be willing to help a murderer? You don't know, and Kirito doesn't know. And of course they'd have been part of the original ambush as opposed to coming in afterwards, but how exactly does that help? You can't tell how strong someone is by looking at them. Maybe some high level guy was taking a break and decided to help his low level friends. Maybe he knows them in real life. Too many variables. Edit: I'm not saying Kirito was stupid to have confidence. 90%, or 99%, are very good odds. However, when seen as "the event immediately after RNR" is becomes odd to think that he'd suddenly take any risk at all of an ally dying under his protection, let alone put them in danger. |
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2012-07-25, 22:17 | Link #560 |
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If you're gonna go that far out to create those situations, then the only thing anyone should ever do in SAO is to sit in an inn in the town of beginning forever. SAO is an action/adventure story, not a spy novel.
I understand the point you're making, but to me it's akin to someone deciding they're not gonna drive a car anymore after they were involved in a car accident, or afraid to go outside because they might get struck by lightning :/ |
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