2012-03-11, 11:07 | Link #8321 | |
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2012-03-11, 11:11 | Link #8322 | |
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Ending aside, the festival was obvious filler. The Magic World arc was the most recent serious arc, and that was excellent. |
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2012-03-11, 11:13 | Link #8324 |
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Well, I didn't quite expect a smooth ending, and am OK with it. Negima basically took too much expansion throughout the manga, and unless you take 15 chapters to end up each girl's future, it will turn into an ending of the sort.
In Love Hina's case, the author had the romantc relationship established very early, so the ending was better. However, Negima became much more battle-centered after a hundred of chapters. The ending itself was more done in order to "stop" the story, and not to "conclude" it, IMO. It was basically made so everyone had their own path and have split themselves.
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2012-03-11, 11:15 | Link #8325 | |
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Why Sukuran? Simple, I don't read a lot of manga, and of the ones I read only few have ended, so I can't compare this to the ongoing ones I meant the smaller arcs, mini-arcs if you wish. I don't know, maybe "arc" isn't the right word - feel free to correct me with a better suggestion. I was talking about things like the Final Battle on the Gravekeeper's Palace, where aside from Negi and Asuna the rest of Ala Alba ended up as pushovers that needs to be saved by Ala Rubra. And I've already made enough comments about the "Who Negi loves?!" mini-arc and Asuna's "like he'd really end it sadly" mini-arc.
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2012-03-11, 11:22 | Link #8327 | |||
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The end of the contract timing can't be a coincidence, and there is no way you can expand the series within such time span unless you extend the contract. The fact it wasn't done says a lot regarding how Akamatsu considers his contract with Kodansha. Adding the fact he had to follow Kodansha few directives, making him unable to fully create the series he wanted to be is another point that points out problems outside of Akamatsu ability. Quote:
The last 2 chapters are a definite huge mood shift and a direct reference to how LH ended. Quote:
The whole issue is basically a lose lose situation anyway: Akamatsu had a certain period of time to wrap up Negima, and still under Kodansha directives regarding content thatshould remain prevalent. Surely enough, you expect Sport festival gimmicks while Negi is saving Nagi? Doubtful. By any means, Akamatsu didn't want to retcon things, otherwise, the ending might be radically different than merely "off screen / ommited" plot parts.
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2012-03-11, 11:28 | Link #8328 | |
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The Magical World arc promised to be even grander, true, but its loose ends were not properly followed up on so I can see why people end up not being pleased with it either. I don't care enough to complain about the ending very much, but I understand fully how people who liked the manga and followed it more consistently than I do would be very angry. I don't even think the ending is the manga's biggest weakness; that would go to the very premise of having a ridiculous classroom-sized harem's worth of characters going for a ten years old teacher. Although it is perceived among the fans as a pitch he did to trick his publishers, and though he did get to write his fantasy epic in the end, he himself couldn't let go of this either and returned to the premise when he apparently lost interest, or at least energy, to continue. I mean, Asuna still kept losing clothes to magic after the Magical World arc, and harem-ish antics dominated the time between the end of Magical World and the ending itself. That's a long way since everybody's dropped the pretense of this being Love Hina Extreme Edition or something. It's like building a very grand edifice with flaws in its very foundations. You either have to be very creative in maneuvering around that flaw, sometimes producing very interesting results, or you just give up and things start to go wrong. If it is something of an impossible task to write an ending that satisfies all the fans of the many characters (Asuna, Yue, Nodoka, Konoka, Kaede, Ku, Chisame, Chao, Evangeline, etc., etc.), who else is to blame but the one who wrote up the premise and wrote the story to its end? |
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2012-03-11, 11:29 | Link #8329 |
Knowledge is the solution
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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.
OMG this is so fun. Props to Ken for giving me the best entertainment ever. C'mon people. Give the guy some slack. This is more a result of real life shit hitting the fan than anything else. With any luck they'll be able to salvage it somewhere else
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2012-03-11, 12:26 | Link #8330 |
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It all comes to personal opinion in the end. For me, I disagree with the claim that Akamatsu's writing was worse around the end. After all I still was enjoying a lot every chapter content till the end. So his writing was still up to par for me.
I'm also disappointed that the end lacked or skipped some important parts to the story, but that's more regarding what that was lacking from the conclusion, but nothing against the content we were shown. I also agree that something is really strange on how it ended rushed. And I think it's likely not something Akamatsu wished for. Negima have been my favorite series for long time and still is. While the end was weak, it's nowhere near enough to make me disregard so many chapters of awesomeness and fun.
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2012-03-11, 15:03 | Link #8332 |
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I see there's a lot of rage. Honestly, I'm not sure why it's pointed completely at KA being a bad writer. Honestly, he could have fallen victim to the "Oh shit, real life" bug. It is also possible that his series became less popular than other series running that the editors had to cancel it to make room for more. Or contract ended. In that case, then he could have managed his time better, which isn't necessarily him being a bad writer, but being a poor time manager.
I enjoyed the ending. True, it was disappointing to have so unresolved plot points and a rushed feeling to the ending, but for what it was worth, it did its best job resolving at least some of the more interesting plot points. In fact, I'm not annoyed by "Holy crap, it's Nagi!" I feel like even if he had more time, finding Nagi would involve far too much BS than its worth. At the every least, the ending wasn't incredibly cluttered, and I believe those are probably the worst types. Another thing to note is that endings are hard to do and as a series lengthens, it becomes increasingly difficult for a really thorough ending. In fact, for longer series, I feel like open endings tend to have the best feeling because we as readers have stuck with these characters for so long that we want to know (consciously or not) about their futures. The only way to do that (without continuing the series) is to leave the ending open. I believe that had KA had his way, he would have let the series go on longer to really wrap up the series. He probably made the best ending with the limited resources he had (no time for research really). And probably realizes that there are plot holes that definitely need to be resolved without magic time warp powers. Maybe he'll release side stories or start a spin-off or something. Who knows what the future brings?
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2012-03-11, 15:26 | Link #8333 |
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There's a lot of (valid) complaints I don't care about.
I don't mind that Chisame became a hikkikomori - she always did most of her work with the internet anyway. She doesn't have to do it from a laptop while being dragged around a jungle by Chachamaru. I don't mind that Negi rescued his father offscreen. He became pretty broken, and so are his allies. Fine, whatever. I don't mind that plot threads (like Ako's origin, or what Zazie's deal was, aside from being a demon princess) were abandoned. But couldn't he have provided even small text explanation for what happened with Negi's mother? Said who Negi liked? |
2012-03-11, 16:59 | Link #8334 |
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Yeah after following this for like 8 years at the VERY least I would have liked to see who Negi had a thing for. Outside of that I'm fine with the ending.
Also don't bring up School Rumble again, that shit was a disaster and bi polar. Ugh.
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2012-03-11, 20:27 | Link #8338 |
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...Yeah, f*ck Akamatsu's ending. I'll be making up my own Negima storyline ending for my in-progress fic. It'll involve a properly epic Final Battle against the Lifemaker, who turns out to be a billions-of-years-old evil spirit who seeks to return Mundus Magicus and Earth to "the pure, eternal silent peace of death", resulting in an epic battle with over nine billion lives at stake.
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2012-03-11, 20:59 | Link #8339 | |
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2012-03-11, 21:01 | Link #8340 | ||
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I HOPE he does side stories... Quote:
Though it is interesting that BOTH Setsuna and Konoka are blushing at meeting Nagi.
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