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Ilidsor · 2013-05-04, 12:31

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Originally Posted by leukrota

There's no way you really believe your point of view is universal.

All right fine that's fair. I think it's cheerful you guys don't. Let's leave it at that then.

Shadrala · 2013-05-04, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Ilidsor

Intense and energentic is uplifiting. And I already said that it doesn't need to be depressing.

There's no way you watched that and didn't get a cheerful tone from it.

I personally don't think the OP can be considered cheerful... But that's my opinion. I think it has more high energy-angst and tension mixed in with hope. I'm a music student and did some brief analysis on it (old habits die hard =_=)... Without going into details about here, I'll just say that they used some techniques that are obviously meant to (and are usually used to) create such an atmosphere. In any case, I don't think the OP will ruin the dark mood much.

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-05-04, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Shadrala

I personally don't think the OP can be considered cheerful... But that's my opinion. I think it has more high energy-angst and tension mixed in with hope. I'm a music student and did some brief analysis on it (old habits die hard =_=)... Without going into details about here, I'll just say that they used some techniques that are obviously meant to (and are usually used to) create such an atmosphere. In any case, I don't think the OP will ruin the dark mood much.

Yeah, the whole piece is written in a minor key and resolves to a minor (like a lot of techno), so creates a sense of tension. Just because it's "upbeat" doesn't make it "uplifting". It's meant to evoke the same sort of excitement and tension you'd get in an action scene. In fact, I'd bet good money that they'll use the song in the climax battle of this arc. It's anything but "happy-go-lucky". Contrast to something like, say, the opening of Henneko; that's also a sort of "techno song" (a "denpa song"?) but is basically the definition of "happy-go-lucky" (ever minor chord always resolves to a major, and the overall feel is extremely "cheerful").

Mura · 2013-05-06, 09:08

OP Single is out, loving every moment of it.

blakstealth · 2013-05-06, 11:50

Sister's Noise PV

KiraYamatoFan · 2013-05-06, 17:22

At last!

That PV was a little weird with the test subject getting... fatter.

hoshino_crimsonwings · 2013-05-11, 08:35

Is it me, or the TV sized version seems to be a MUCH better vocal? Or is my version of the full song not authentic..

Singer seems a lot shorter on breath, some of the notes aren't hit as well as the TV sized version; almost seems like a live version of the song. Anyone else feel the same?

aichara · 2013-05-11, 09:01

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Originally Posted by hoshino_crimsonwings

Is it me, or the TV sized version seems to be a MUCH better vocal? Or is my version of the full song not authentic..

Singer seems a lot shorter on breath, some of the notes aren't hit as well as the TV sized version; almost seems like a live version of the song. Anyone else feel the same?

Actually yours is the live ver. the audio version actually released on 8th may.

Ardee · 2013-05-11, 20:11

Bought the new OP from cdjapan. As with the previous OP, playing with the various audio channels to build a separated surround mix gives a result that's much nicer to listen to than the original. To try this if you have a surround system, start with the lossless rip from your CD, then do this in a sound editor:

Create a 6-channel track and paste the vocal and instrumental tracks into channels 1&2 and 3&4.

Flip (invert) channels 3&4

Zoom all the way in and find a place in the first few seconds where the instrumental beats clearly line up; you'll need to trim the padding from one of the tracks to get the two to line up perfectly to-the-sample.

Now use a channel mixer to compute new channels:

1' = 1 + 2 - 3 - 4
2' = 1 + 2 - 3 - 4
3' = 1 - 2 - 3 + 4
4' = 3
5' = 3
6' = 4

Now you have a result where the bare lead vocals without much instrumental backing are in the front left and right; the bare harmony vocals are in the front center, the instrumentals are in the rear left and right, and in the sub.

Remember, for the instrumentals to cancel out of the vocals, the tracks have to be exactly aligned before superimposing them.

I could listen to this mix all day! In fact, I did.

StaticLord · 2013-05-12, 09:28

You should upload it somewhere to let all of us share your joy.

Ardee · 2013-05-12, 11:59

I made a 30-second clip of my modified version, which should meet anyone's definition of fair use for posting here :-)

This is a 5.1 WMA so you need a surround system that can play this for it to sound right. Oh, and I picked the wrong music thread, this should go in Railgun, but it's too late now.

edit: or a regular stereo mp3 clip of just the isolated vocal and harmony so you get the idea, if you don't have surround.

Birdway · 2013-05-15, 16:54

ED Single Growing Slowly is out on sales.

touge-n00b · 2013-05-18, 05:58

I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I'd really like to know when the OST for Railgun S is being released. Because the two tracks that played during Shinobu and Misaka #XXXXs scene were too beautiful! Iuchi Maiko has done it again!

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-05-18, 15:43

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Originally Posted by touge-n00b

I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I'd really like to know when the OST for Railgun S is being released. Because the two tracks that played during Shinobu and Misaka #XXXXs scene were too beautiful! Iuchi Maiko has done it again!

It is being released along-side the Blu-Rays this time. The first Blu-Ray is being released in July, with monthly releases for 8 months. I'm not sure if the OST will be split among all 8 volumes, or just with certain ones... but we'll see.

ultimatemegax · 2013-05-18, 20:24

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Originally Posted by relentlessflame

It is being released along-side the Blu-Rays this time. The first Blu-Ray is being released in July, with monthly releases for 8 months. I'm not sure if the OST will be split among all 8 volumes, or just with certain ones... but we'll see.

The solicitations say volumes 1 and 5 will have the OST volumes. Volumes 2-4 and 6-8 will have the radio show on CD in mp3 format like the first series.

touge-n00b · 2013-05-18, 20:36

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Originally Posted by ultimatemegax

The solicitations say volumes 1 and 5 will have the OST volumes. Volumes 2-4 and 6-8 will have the radio show on CD in mp3 format like the first series.

Thanks for the info. I hope those two "OST volumes" are like what they did with the first Railgun OST, two full CDs (Spark and Moment).

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-05-18, 20:55

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Originally Posted by ultimatemegax

The solicitations say volumes 1 and 5 will have the OST volumes. Volumes 2-4 and 6-8 will have the radio show on CD in mp3 format like the first series.

Ah I see -- Animate and Gamers have the details (perhaps among others). The official website, along with Amazon, still only have info on the first volume. This makes perfect sense, though. (And as with last time, volumes 2 & 6 will have the boxes.)

kaizerknight01 · 2013-05-25, 04:11

Spoiler for Sister noise:

Ardee · 2013-06-08, 20:40

This is incredible - per my post #209 above, I made a surround mix of Sister's Noise by playing with the raw CD rip.

At this moment, I'm doing setup at the E3 game show getting my (unnamed) company's theater ready for the show. I'm helping the audio crew configure the surround audio, and they asked if I had a test file.... *Yes I do!!!*

So I'm sitting in a newly-built theater in our space at the LA convention center with an over-the-top surround system meant to blast gamers' socks off, listening to Sister's Noise, and seeing the various construction workers joke in Spanish about the funny music, and dance to it.

icebreaker · 2013-06-23, 04:12

You must be kidding me.. The lyrics of "stand still" (the song they used for the ending of Episode 11 in Railgun S) is the saddest one I've ever heard from the Index series. I'm not sure whether it could be interpreted another way, but what it seems like is a woman who is saying she could never move on from her husband's death.

Spoiler for If you put it in context:

2013-05-06, 09:08	Link #204
Mura Now or Never Join Date: Jan 2012 Age: 37	OP Single is out, loving every moment of it. __________________

2013-05-06, 11:50	Link #205
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Sister's Noise PV <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/KptktTMoDio">watch on YouTube</a>.</p>

2013-05-11, 08:35	Link #207
hoshino_crimsonwings Senior Member Join Date: May 2006	Is it me, or the TV sized version seems to be a MUCH better vocal? Or is my version of the full song not authentic.. Singer seems a lot shorter on breath, some of the notes aren't hit as well as the TV sized version; almost seems like a live version of the song. Anyone else feel the same? __________________

2013-05-12, 09:28	Link #210
StaticLord Non-toxic Mikoto lover. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Poland Age: 33	You should upload it somewhere to let all of us share your joy. __________________

2013-05-25, 04:11	Link #218
kaizerknight01 Extra Superior Otaku Join Date: Sep 2008	Spoiler for Sister noise: <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/z3qUPU-vpT0">watch on YouTube</a>.</p>

2013-05-06, 17:22	Link #206
KiraYamatoFan Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Age: 40	At last! That PV was a little weird with the test subject getting... fatter.

2013-05-11, 20:11	Link #209
Ardee Member Join Date: Apr 2006	Bought the new OP from cdjapan. As with the previous OP, playing with the various audio channels to build a separated surround mix gives a result that's much nicer to listen to than the original. To try this if you have a surround system, start with the lossless rip from your CD, then do this in a sound editor: Create a 6-channel track and paste the vocal and instrumental tracks into channels 1&2 and 3&4. Flip (invert) channels 3&4 Zoom all the way in and find a place in the first few seconds where the instrumental beats clearly line up; you'll need to trim the padding from one of the tracks to get the two to line up perfectly to-the-sample. Now use a channel mixer to compute new channels: 1' = 1 + 2 - 3 - 4 2' = 1 + 2 - 3 - 4 3' = 1 - 2 - 3 + 4 4' = 3 5' = 3 6' = 4 Now you have a result where the bare lead vocals without much instrumental backing are in the front left and right; the bare harmony vocals are in the front center, the instrumentals are in the rear left and right, and in the sub. Remember, for the instrumentals to cancel out of the vocals, the tracks have to be exactly aligned before superimposing them. I could listen to this mix all day! In fact, I did.

2013-05-12, 11:59	Link #211
Ardee Member Join Date: Apr 2006	I made a 30-second clip of my modified version, which should meet anyone's definition of fair use for posting here :-) This is a 5.1 WMA so you need a surround system that can play this for it to sound right. Oh, and I picked the wrong music thread, this should go in Railgun, but it's too late now. edit: or a regular stereo mp3 clip of just the isolated vocal and harmony so you get the idea, if you don't have surround.

2013-05-15, 16:54	Link #212
Birdway Banned Join Date: Jul 2012	ED Single Growing Slowly is out on sales.

2013-05-18, 05:58	Link #213
touge-n00b ZC6 Eishi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Honolulu Base	I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but I'd really like to know when the OST for Railgun S is being released. Because the two tracks that played during Shinobu and Misaka #XXXXs scene were too beautiful! Iuchi Maiko has done it again!

2013-06-08, 20:40	Link #219
Ardee Member Join Date: Apr 2006	This is incredible - per my post #209 above, I made a surround mix of Sister's Noise by playing with the raw CD rip. At this moment, I'm doing setup at the E3 game show getting my (unnamed) company's theater ready for the show. I'm helping the audio crew configure the surround audio, and they asked if I had a test file.... Yes I do!!! So I'm sitting in a newly-built theater in our space at the LA convention center with an over-the-top surround system meant to blast gamers' socks off, listening to Sister's Noise, and seeing the various construction workers joke in Spanish about the funny music, and dance to it.

2013-06-23, 04:12	Link #220
icebreaker Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013	You must be kidding me.. The lyrics of "stand still" (the song they used for the ending of Episode 11 in Railgun S) is the saddest one I've ever heard from the Index series. I'm not sure whether it could be interpreted another way, but what it seems like is a woman who is saying she could never move on from her husband's death. Spoiler for If you put it in context: Volume 22? I'm not sure why are they thinking that far if that is what they intend to imply. Last edited by icebreaker; 2013-06-23 at 04:42.