2014-01-08, 23:23 | Link #32501 |
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I agree that it is rationally absurd to both sides to even consider an aggression considering the current economical ties between the countries, but I also don't live in Korea or China, nor have relatives who have suffer in the war, and we all know that :
1. fear is not rational. 2. both governments don't help the case either with fear mongerings. 3. Lots of irrational nation leader has waged war in an even more disadvantaged situation in the name of national(more like personal actually) ego, both of which is not a rational way of thinking Just consider this, would the Jews have valid reason if they start to be wary of German if a political party and leader who is clearly pro neo-nazi/pro nazi wins the elections even if said party clearly has no reasonable reason to repeat Hitler's act?
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Well, I am done with this, no need to continue this topic since it will go nowhere.
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2014-01-08, 23:49 | Link #32503 | |
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2014-01-08, 23:57 | Link #32504 | ||
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No Asian countries can afford to start wars because they will lose US as ally which is a tremendous loss. All their politicians are quite scheming, horrible at their jobs they cannot keep the finance of their countries afloat. Nobody probably likes US but they tolerate the presence and interfering to keep the countries from turning back to third nation. Quote:
Most Western countries to me seems hypocritical after all they all have blood on their hands particularly the mistreatment of indigenous people. If it was not LDP revising the constitution, It would be ok, fine and dandy that Japan is moving forward.
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2014-01-09, 00:34 | Link #32505 | |
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As for Japan itself, I feel it is indicative of a larger global problem. It's one of those moments in history where the human species faces really tough choices about the future it wants, but no one is sure yet how to proceed, so crisis after crisis continue to pile up until something breaks and we're forced to confront them. It's that time when conservatism versus progressivism (not speaking strictly politically here) really butt heads, because one side wants things to go back to the "good old days" and the other wants to try and move forward by doing something different from that. And of course there's always the people who want to exploit it for their own gains, consequences be damned.
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2014-01-09, 01:04 | Link #32506 |
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Japan is pretty much the only country that has completely given up its right to go to war with anyone outside of self-defense. They do not have a soveriegn right to war anymore. They gave it up by treaty and by their own constitution.
It will take a lot to bring Japan back to that of military powerhouse that can project power.
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2014-01-09, 02:17 | Link #32507 |
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Honestly i don't see this event in any other ways but political parties trying to bargain each other chip. We all know that Japan won't start a WW3 and invade nearby nationw anytime soon. On the other hand, we know Japan will still have its right to militarize their (defense) force and honour its own censored version of WW2.
Both the Japanese and Chinese government know full well that. Even we also do.... In fact i won't be surprised if 20 years from now, we will pick up the newspaper with front line of China and Japan arguing over about Yasukuni Temple again. But until then several more Japanese politician would be elected for their stand in Yasukuni, and the PRC party will several times being strengthened with more nationalism drive. Who know maybe they can actually accomplish something with this, like having China turn blind eyes on the whaling, while Japan draw away from criticizing China's human right record. Typical bargaining chips
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2014-01-09, 03:23 | Link #32508 |
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Honestly speaking though, the current political situation in Japan is still relatively normal compared to the chaos in the 1920s-30s or even to PRC's current situation seeing that the latter spends more on arms build up and is far more strident and assertive on its nationalism. Anyone can easily see through the charade both side's leaders play. The real danger comes from retarded fanatical war porn lovers (which apparently seems to be a bigger danger in China....since it forms a bigger percentage of the populace) doing something to force the incumbent leader's hand
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2014-01-09, 06:57 | Link #32510 |
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German prosecutors have charged an 88-year-old former soldier over the Nazis' worst atrocity on French soil, the 1944 massacre in the village of Oradour-sur-Glane.
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2014-01-09, 08:45 | Link #32516 | |
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Militarization is a trend throughout East Asia. Here's an article from this week's Times about the increasing number of submarines in the arsenals of Southeast Asian nations. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/08/op...e-in-asia.html
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2014-01-09, 10:14 | Link #32517 | ||
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Buying submarines seem a fascinating idea though I don't know why they won't buy other kind of ships, like frigates. I don't mind torpedoing either of these.
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2014-01-09, 10:33 | Link #32519 | |
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Sub v sub warfare is a sillier concept; I will not go into that because it is incredibly difficult to hit another submarine with one of your own compared to dropping depth charges.
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2014-01-09, 17:03 | Link #32520 | |
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Practically speaking, there wasn't really much a foot soldier can do beyond occasionally pretending to fail to spot a civilian trying to escape the onslaught. (like how a certain businessman managed to keep bribing the soldiers to not search his house, or a pianist by playing a song). But yea, even this has various degree of risk involved depending on the situations. Last edited by maplehurry; 2014-01-09 at 18:20. |
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