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2008-11-15, 22:53 | Link #205 |
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But but their spirits can become one! See she's not pure at all!
But I wonder, like you said in this manga they don't have physical bodies but what about the current Nagi? I do think that's her human body materilized and Ozuma seems to have done so as well because of the impurities. So it's possible to materilized their bodies. |
2008-11-15, 23:06 | Link #206 | |
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2008-11-16, 06:58 | Link #209 |
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Sometimes I don't think the western fanbase is much better. It's not like we're immune to totally overeacting and calling something a trainwreck or worst ever just because something totally minor about a story or character doesn't unfold exactly as we want or expect it to. Of course people are probably going to end up just bashing on 2ch (much as they usually deserve it) without seeing that we are pretty much headed in that direction.
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2008-11-16, 12:40 | Link #210 |
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Unfortunately, if Nagi did it, it's not a minor issue. And the ranting will only grow if it's confirmed.
My take is that the author will come up with some kind of excuse to quell the rumor, but it might not be stop the firestorm. Stay tuned... |
2008-11-16, 13:10 | Link #211 |
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I read about the issue of "Nagi not virgin theory". But isn't Nagi in her new body now. Meaning even she experience it, it's in her old body, not this new one which was carved by Jin. Meaning she's virgin again. So what's the point of this Otakus to overreact.
What I don't understand is their reaction which is quite funny. It's like they are so pathetic that not only that they are losers in reality, they are also losers in 2d. Last edited by Haru~; 2008-11-16 at 14:43. Reason: Yeah it's 2d. Sorry lol. |
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2008-11-16, 18:30 | Link #213 | |
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2008-11-16, 22:28 | Link #215 |
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Anyone else thinks that the anime crew will comment about this in the anime like how the director did in ep 2 or was it ep 3 when he was shown with a black censor bar about now being a good director thanks to Nagi or something like that. But this time I'll be Nagi with a black censor bar saying "Otaku's think I'm a slut now... but their wrong I've only slept with one guy! how does that make me a slut? Idiots!" while giving the middle finger at the very end.
Or hell have the manga-ka show up like that commenting about the issue and telling the Otaku's to F-OFF. heh |
2008-11-17, 04:39 | Link #216 |
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Problem is most of these so called fans buying the merchandise products based on Kannagi. Hug pillow, bed covers, manga or DVD. Their backlash can cost a lot of money for the publishers. I would be interested to see Chapter 37 and how the mangaka repair the damage or stubbornly holding her position.
Kannagi is a moe based narrative and it relies on audience's loyalty to sell itself. When these fans felt the series is not moe or betrayed, this reaction is bound to happen. We all might sit and laugh at the idiocy, unfortunately the mangaka bosses might not since these people are serious buyers. Let's face it, most of us here will never buy any originals of Kannagi merchandise or as much as these 2ch Kannagi fans. Just my 2 cents.
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2008-11-17, 07:44 | Link #217 |
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stormy001_M1A2 is saying the truth.
We can laugh on how silly they are and how childish their reactions sound but... they are also the income source for the mangaka's... And the fans if displeased can punish a series harshly. I think many producers still aware of what happened with Kimikiss (originally very popular game, but made into anime it was a very large disappointment as fans were not pleased with a completely different Kimikiss from what they have imagined) and how JC Staff was punished for thats (sure selling other merchandise not directly related with anime did well enough, but again they could have just made those merchandise without anime to begin with and they would have sold out juts as nicely due to big popularity). Due to this at least for now directors will probably be more cautious about otakus reactions, as it can be very unrewarding doing it your own way against the fanbase. Considering that Kannagi's manga's one of the selling points are moeness of nagi and other characters, but whne leading heroine looses a lot of her attraction points by not being 'pure' it maight hurt the series badly. We can laugh but if I were one of the heads or mangaka herself I would be concerned. Some controversy does actually work as an additional advertisement but what is happening now is beyond that, and means nothing good for a producers. Well we will see how mangake reacts (doubt there will be anything of the sort that ZODDGUTS suggest though). The whole fuss may make mangaka try to explain things faster thus fixing the damage as soon as possible (you can't completely fix it, but you can always save some of the fans). If however she takes it slow and do it her way, I am afraid Kannagi is very likely drop in popularity. Anime if they will come to that scene, may try to change it as well to cause less reaction from the fans, like Nagi being less emotional about her ex-lover or maybe not completely ignoring Jin, because the way the scene is played in manga one can get that "I was just using Jin untill mah real man comes, hee hee" feeling. It's not correct one (Nagi will nover be such bitch) but it is bit too open... Oh well it will be interesting to see how things go in both manga and reality... Well at least it should create more Kannagi doujins. |
2008-11-17, 11:01 | Link #218 |
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You guys, the likelihood of backlash from people that have actually read the chapter is unlikely. (I haven't gone back to the Kannagi threads since the whole thing started, but other people in the thread have pointed out that it became a mock-for-all at the people freaking out) It had nothing to do with Nagi being tainted, and everything to do with Nagi being self-sacrificing.
I also don't think fans should dictate everything about a show. There's nothing wrong with keeping their wants in mind--especially if you want to make money off of them--but there's usually a reason why fans are fans and published writers are published writers.
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2008-11-17, 13:26 | Link #219 |
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musouka, you are reffering to logic and that process doesnt always function well with otakus.
There are still those slut comments coming and so on. It is very catchy, some drop even before reading the chapter in question or just seeing those few pages and so on. So no, the danger is still there and pretty real. It is a matter of interpretation some may not see it as an action of self-sacrfice at all, so they still stay with 'Nagi-slut' despite reading the chapter. There are still Nagi-slut threads and they will be coming no doubts about it. As long as the author doesn't solve it clearly what and where since for now nothing cannot be taken for sure thus opens the possibility of interpretations and Nagi-slut is rather popular right now. |
2008-11-17, 17:54 | Link #220 |
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As Musouka says though,,, there are many OTHER Japanese Nagi fans mocking the daylights out of those who over-reacted. Granted, what they're saying isn't any more open-minded concerning Nagi, as in "you are fools for having doubted her purity" but still -- the anti-Nagi flamers appear to be in the distinct minority on the various otaku channels at this point.
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