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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa Movie Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 40 | 42.11% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 33 | 34.74% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 12.63% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 5.26% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 3.16% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 2.11% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-10-29, 17:11 | Link #2783 |
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^^ I downloaded both versions, and had the same problems with both playing with Divx player. Once I updated to the newest K-lite pack, that fixed all my problems - I can now play either version with WMP with perfect subtitle display and no video artifacts whatsoever.
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2011-10-29, 18:07 | Link #2784 |
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Finished the movie some hours ago.
Once again I was impressed by the visuals. Done well like in the first movie. However, it disappointed me that Sheryl took so less stage time but ok, she had taken enough stage time in the series and the first movie. I didn't mind Sheryl's weak moments much - She is one of my favorite characters after all. She had some weak moments in the TV series too but not that strong like in the movie. As for Ranka... She seemed to care more for Sheryl rather Alto. And when Alto Spoiler:
And finally Alto, I was never too fond of him, I found him sorta non-interesting. But that ending... Well, I didn't like the ending of the TV series much because it felt too fast but now... Spoiler:
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2011-10-29, 18:47 | Link #2786 | ||
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2011-10-29, 20:44 | Link #2790 |
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I first noticed that piece of detail, and thought it was so funny because I used that character listing before for research. One of the few instances of Wikipedia copypasta actually being used in official material.
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2011-10-29, 21:08 | Link #2791 |
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I really want to love this film. There are just so many great things about it. It's good enough that I'm willing to consider it the superior to the TV version that I love so much even though there's a lot of things I miss from the TV series.
But there's one thing that's totally ruining it for me, and that's the bit I'd mentioned about their portrayal of Sheryl. There's a lot to love about the movie version of Sheryl, but I just cannot easily let her knowing what was going to happen to Ranka slide. The idea that she'd sit idly by and let the other Galaxy conspirators kill Ranka and transplant Ranka's organs into her body is just too horrible for me. She didn't seem entirely comfortable with things and I realise that her only real family (Grace) is one of the conspirators, but that's just not enough for me to be able to just accept that. (I'm kind of sorry to keep coming back to this issue, but I'm having a lot of trouble coming to terms with it.) |
2011-10-29, 21:16 | Link #2792 | ||||
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As for "flat," I don't agree. He gave some good contribution to lovely moments in the series that started the "action" needed (and I don't refer to the triangle here). Yes, he developed better in the movie, but that was mostly because he was thrown into the war with information before he made decisions. As someone here mentioned, he stopped doing things "half-assed." And that was something he failed to do in the series. He actually took things as they went in the series and just allowed himself to be pulled by the strings (which went against him choosing his destiny). But regardless of his characteristics, he still developed quite nicely in the series. I can see movie!Alto being a more defined version of series!Alto. Remember that the storyline is different here. In the series, he failed to understand the war around him except the "kill or be killed" bit. In the movie, this Alto became a hero (like with Shin and other Macross male characters from the past) something that failed in the series badly.
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2011-10-29, 21:43 | Link #2793 | |
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2011-10-29, 21:57 | Link #2794 |
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Ok, just finished watching it with the subs. Loved it to bits.
Favorite part? The "yahoooooo" cameo. Second favorite part? Luca quietly walking out with a hot MILF, to the shock of Michael and Klan. Priceless. It was a very fun ride, even though Sheryl knowing so much about the conspiracy kinda irks me a little. The mecha pr0n and all-around excellent presentation make up for it, tho. Chibi Sheryl and Alto were just adorable - as was her declaration. You sure shook my galaxy, kid. Now, to watch it again, with the earphones now, because the house is asleep...
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2011-10-29, 21:58 | Link #2795 | |
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Although, I disagree that Sheryl stole the show. Actually, it was the movies where I felt she stole the show more. I hated that about the movies. Other characters were completely pushed out of the equation so we could view her growth. If not for Ranka's words when she was in jail, Sheryl would've have started writing lyrics on the wall and grew hope towards salvation. I felt that way outweighed Alto's words from the series that gave Sheryl inspiration to sing again, because his words didn't make her believe in a way to save herself like she did in the movies. A good progression and a good balance to the love triangle; I thought.
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2011-10-29, 22:09 | Link #2796 | |
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Movie balanced their roles better in the conclusion.
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2011-10-29, 22:11 | Link #2797 | |
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Who was in a relationship with Leon... Yes... ew. - Tak
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2011-10-29, 22:26 | Link #2799 | |
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But, I'll say it once again, there was too much Sheryl in the movies (and I don't mean character appearance but rather focus). I understand the plot is tied to her (of course, they had to attach it to her in the movies because the series failed to prove a plot for why Sheryl was attached to the Vajra or 117 beyond Mao being her grandmother), but for most of movie 1 and 2, they focus on Sheryl instead of focusing even momentarily on character growth of others. They even ruled out Alto's growth from being unstable with his role as the protagonist to "I'm ready" in less than 20secs to the end. They focused too much on Sheryl and left out the important bits: like, for instance, how did Ozma and Catherine get back together? I never saw any indication in the 1st movie that they were even near that stage. And from what I can understand (unless the novels say otherwise), they never talked in-between movies. They failed to actually get rid of Ranka's flaws that Kawamori seemed to find. Her series personality, at times, blended with her movie personality in both movies and made her seem like she had split-personality disorder. I really disliked that. Once you change a character, you can't just go back. You know, they focused so much on Sheryl that they left out Alto's progression as a character. He seemed more tied to Sheryl like a boy to his mother, depending on her for reasons unknown, and even opted to quit after Sheryl's arrest. If not for Ozma talking him back into fighting, I would've called him a "mama's boy" with Sheryl for letting her arrest hurt him that bad. He made the same exact implies from the series of being upset with Sheryl's betrayal (just like Ranka) and looked at artifacts that reminded him of said girl. I felt series Alto shine through right then. And actually, Alto didn't really get a chance to say "Sheryl is the enemy, so I must kill her" because the government already had her on treason and the death penalty. She was to die anyway. So let's drop that, okay? I liked a bit that Ranka chose to become Minmei of her own volition in movie 2 and see it out to the end unlike in the series where she chose to become Misa halfway through the ride. I found the qualities of her character in this movie to be endearing and it showed what series!Ranka failed to get a chance to show. I actually disliked Sheryl's fall in character towards weakness, and I'll possibly get yelled at for saying that, but Kawamori stated he had nothing he wanted to change about Sheryl; but he did. He made her more clingy to Alto and Ranka for power whereas the series!Sheryl needed neither, just the inspiration of those around her in peril for her to realize she had to sing again (Shinkuu Diamond Crevasse in Ep.20). She also lacked self-esteem in the movie, I felt; because when she's arrested, she actually loses all faith, whereas the Sheryl from the series let herself fall for an instant before she forced herself to move forward, even if it meant death. I found series!Sheryl a little more to my liking. And, to let you all know, I never said I hated Sheryl as a character, just that I hate her with Alto. Otherwise, she's a character I'd see as becoming Minmei because her songs are her life; but not Ranka, because her songs are more for Alto than anything else, and we all know that Minmei sang just for the sake of her songs. That was one of my favorite parts. I went "yeah!!" We failed to see what happened to him in the series, but that was just gorgeous. (A little gross for blood and stuff, but gorgeous!)
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