2014-02-02, 16:46 | Link #21 |
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The problem with Suzuka is a similar problem with the one many had with KNIM.
Yamato had far better options and far more credible options but he denied those options to be with a girl whose emotionally damaged on many levels. Suzuka's problem was that she was still in love with a dead guy far later and denied yamoto pretty much because of the fact that she reminded him of the past. Not only did he pursue her but denied two girls who would've been much better (Honoka and hashiba) even then he still really had nothing. yamato had zero redeemable traits whatsoever besides him being fast. |
2014-02-02, 17:11 | Link #22 |
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It's neither uncommon nor bad that main love interest has issues she has to get over and (Suzuka did). Honoka was from begening set as girl without actual chance (thanks godness) and if Hashiba was that good I would at least remember who the hell she was.
Yamato himself is pretty normal guy, yet he was good boyfriend in temporary relationship with Honoka and later with Suzuka. For me Yamato was hundred time better than Haruto, who repeatadly failed in that metter. Last edited by Tenzen12; 2014-02-02 at 17:26. |
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2014-02-02, 23:54 | Link #28 | |
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Lucia I don't care much for anymore, it's essentially a cluster of cliches and fan service, which arguably isn't much worse than a typical KNIM filler chapter. Again, I'm not sure if Fuuka would be a manga I'd invest time into following. It could be as bad as the horrible parts of Suzuka, KNIM, and Lucia combined. |
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2014-02-03, 05:04 | Link #30 | ||
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Throughout the show, it was consistently Akitsuki's inexplicable infatuation with abuse from Suzuka that brought him pain and despair, and it was consistently Honoka who would then have to pick up the pieces and heal him. Nevertheless, he would always gravitate back to the selfish and unapologetic b*tch with no redeeming features other than her looks (and Seo's infatuation with her). Throughout the show I was always waiting for something like Suzuka's repentance or at least the self-realization that she had been downright horrible. It never came. Which is why Suzuka remains the one show where "losing girl (Honoka) deserves something better than the male lead" rings oh so true with me. Hashiba was Miki. She also deserved MUCH better than Yamato. Quote:
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2014-02-03, 05:16 | Link #31 | |
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-Talented athlete maybe, but honestly being profesional sportsman it's quite difficult and mere talent isn't enough, there is no way find whether he would succedd or failed. And honestly fact that he was able gave up to take responsibilty is good thing. -You know, they did it together so claim like "he ruined his girlfriend life" is BS. In the end they married and have kid. It might not be future they imagined, but family is by no means inferior to carreer. -Why you assume he and Honoka wouldn't have sex? Maybe you are right as there wasn't that much of built up passion, but it's not realy something that can be decided by you. |
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2014-02-03, 08:34 | Link #34 |
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i'm in agreement I mean I think yamato was a kid who was only fast and that was his only redeemable trait suzuka was one of those u watch but you have no idea why you watched it because after the episode when she realized he was fast u pretty much knew how it would end.
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2014-02-03, 08:46 | Link #35 |
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As much as I'm fond of the japanese culture (at least within my limited knowledge), I cannot really understand what they find so good at Seo's works instead of showing him the metaphorical middle finger, unless they all have a "drama = automatically good"-mindset . Well to be fair, it's not that his works are terribad from the get-go, but its more the sh!tty drama (KNIM) of it or are boring (Princess Lucia). I did enjoy the Half & Half oneshot quite much, though, + the parts of KNIM that made me not facepalm.
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2014-02-03, 09:05 | Link #37 |
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I don't know how it is for the japanese, but if the english speaking audience is anything to go by, I'd say Seo is still doing a hell of a good job at earning his paycheck. People moan about his works all the time, but they still come back for it and end up following them. If I hadn't enjoyed both Suzuka and Kimimachi, I'd probably know better by now than to jump into yet another one of his weekly serializations. But, then again, I guess some people either like to suffer through things they do not enjoy, or they just have fun with it, even though they're unable to perceive it.
Maybe I'll be wrong and Fuuka will be very different, but chances are somewhere along the road people will show up and complain about Seo's "infatuation" with his main girl, and how the main pair shouldn't be together and all that stuff that also happened in both Suzuka and Kimimachi. Personally, I do enjoy that kind of tale, because it's interesting to see just how much influence the pair has over each other in his stories, and Seo does usually does manage to write some interesting stuff with that. Of course, they're not flawless, far from it, but I'd still take his stuff over other things such as Ichigo 100% or Good Ending, for instance, which I just can't really get into.
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2014-02-03, 09:12 | Link #38 |
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Out of works I read from him 3 was ok-ish, One good (for now) and two genuine trash (dropped). That's not what I would call good job. Mediocre at best.
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2014-02-03, 10:42 | Link #39 |
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Well... for me, 90% of Seo's appeal is his artwork. Because it's exactly this: Many of his drawn girls/women are genuine pieces of art. Breathtakingly beautiful. Head and shoulders above the average. He's also quite alright at depicting typical interactions between characters - in fact, he can be quite funny and touching.
His main problem is that proper gradual character developments as part of a bigger story arc are shaky and inconsistent. All too often you wonder "after all that has happened, why the hell does (s)he do THAT now?" and continue to tear your hair out. Therefore, his shorter stories tend to be better than his looooooong ones, simply because it's easier to keep a reasonably consistent storyline. I'd also agree that "Half and Half" is his best work by far, for this very reason. It would be nice if he would manage to change the dispositions of his main characters a bit more. Mix it up some, and do shorter stories WITHOUT an easily identifiable "designated match". But that may be a bit too much to ask for. In the meantime, I'll continue to enjoy his art |
2014-02-03, 11:16 | Link #40 |
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Totally agree on the art, at least. Sometimes the anatomy looks a bit iffy on some more complex poses, but at the end of the day he really draws some fine ladies. And not only that, Kimimachi in particular has some really outstanding imagery in quite a few chapters that I don't think I'll be forgetting any soon. Still love that page with Haruto riding his bike with Yuzuki, during the "end" of the Tokyo arc.
As for the rest, at least Seo did say on Twitter that Fuuka would be the "complete opposite" of Yuzuki. Whatever he means by that, I don't know, but if her brief cameos throughout Kimimachi are any indication, she'll probably be one spunky young lady, lol.
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