2008-12-09, 11:15 | Link #1601 | ||
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My idea for autocasters has always been to put magic weapons into the hands of non-mages. Quote:
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2008-12-09, 11:24 | Link #1602 | ||||||
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Data which has several members of the bureau fighting with weapons that come awfully close, and Runessa may or may not actually have one. Not to mention that there is no accurate evidence of this paranoia, apart from the ban on their usage, which as I said, needs not result in a paranoia at all.
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Police in Japan and Holland are allowed to carry weaponry, Mid mages -which are their police- are allowed to carry their devices. The authorities get the weapons the civilians aren't allowed to get. If My country and Japan can happily live with this, why can't Mid? Quote:
Secondly, it limits the guns functionality and effectiveness. A magic gun like Teana's has virtually no ammunition limit, while a gun with physical bullets needs to be reloaded. Also, the need for magic would limit it's effectiveness in AMF conditions, which is the only reason I can see a mage getting a gun like that. Last edited by Keroko; 2008-12-09 at 11:37. |
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2008-12-09, 11:48 | Link #1603 |
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*shrugs* The reason the OFM use standard guns are because Erusia is a gun-happy planet (which has a special dispension to keep firearms for the local LEs, due to the fact that Erusia's population is several billion and there aren't that many mages on the planet) as well as the fact that guns offer a relative stealth advantage over magic: an M82 doesn't have the same magical emission signature as spellcasting does, for instance. Furthermore, on worlds that use guns, it's easier to hide your footprint by using guns, which aren't too far out of the ordinary there. Also, you can see beams, but you can't see bullets.
Metafictionally? I'd just gotten off a major Halo and CoD4 marathon, with liberal helpings of The Unit and NCIS.
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2008-12-09, 12:33 | Link #1605 |
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Either that or an attempt at making a ref: Erusia is named after the Ace Combat nation of the same name and god knows that there's more than a few Ace Combat shout-outs in Nanoha...
Let's not forget the Germanic Belka; in the world of Ace Combat, Belka = Germany. And Nanoha's Belka has plenty of German touches. Remember Hayate's Hresvelgr, the multinuke attack? Ace Combat Zero's Belkans had Hresvelger, a hugeass bomber with lots of nukes.
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2008-12-09, 12:48 | Link #1606 | ||
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What scares me most is how I think the creators came up with the Ban on mass weapons. Spoiler for Imaginary StrikerS Creative Staff Meeting:
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2008-12-09, 13:17 | Link #1607 | |||
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Runessa is, after all, an Enforcer. Which is a job described as dangerous. Quote:
Now you're over thinking things. Like I said, we just went doomsday and decided the ban equaled paranoia and that Mid wouldn't want to touch a gun. Ever. All SSX did was prove we were wrong in our assumption. |
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2008-12-09, 13:43 | Link #1608 | |
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The problem is the AMF drones are the perfect targets for mass weapons. Yet the cast doesn't even contemplate getting mass weapons to use against them. Yes, given that Regius was involved in the conspiracy, they'd be unlikely to get the permits, but not a word about it at all? Not one "Why don't we use guns instead?" or "Too bad we couldn't get those mass weapons permits"? Instead, the whole idea was dismissed with just "mass weapons are banned" back in the A's to S manga. |
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2008-12-09, 13:52 | Link #1609 | |
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2008-12-09, 14:49 | Link #1611 |
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M2 Browning mounted on a Humvee would do the job just fine. Drones are about man-sized and not exactly heavily armored. Fifty Cal. would mulch them.
^_^V Spoiler for DUNDUNDUNDUN!:
And it wouldn't take much either, as drones seem to have a bit of a cause>Effect trigger of blowing to smitherines from even the slightest direct hit punching through. And you know, when you can rip a car to shreds... a drone stands not a chance. Heheh... A few dozen M2s aren't all that hard to contain when you've got mages who can do airstrikes. |
2008-12-09, 15:47 | Link #1612 | |
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Wait, we are talking about the scene in the manga, right? Because in that part, Fate was discussing future plans and strategies against AMF equipped opponents, based on longer term. Not the small and short unit that was RF6.
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And the 'gadgets are really explosive' argument doesn't really run considering everything in anime (heck, movies too) that's hit with anything remotely resembling a pojectile will explode. |
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2008-12-09, 16:56 | Link #1613 |
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If you were feeling sufficiently snarky, you could even semi-justify that by stating that Nanohaverse "magitech" has a habit of doing exactly that when sufficiently catastrophic physical damage is inflicted on its systems, making the "flow" of magic go wild, and...do what magic running wild tends to do.
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2008-12-09, 17:40 | Link #1617 | |
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Yeah. They don't have 'strength' and 'hardness' worth the clothes on my back. They're cheap O drones. Mass produced, mass use, spare parts with a fancy name on the end. A decent heavy machine gun is going to completely trash them. |
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2008-12-09, 17:46 | Link #1619 | |
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"Small fireballs" doesn't talk about their power much. "Fast moving rocks", well those were pretty big. don't remember the concrete bit. |
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