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xris · 2006-01-24, 05:03

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Originally Posted by microlith

Interesting that the previous forum post was deleted.

Not deleted, just merged with the existing Blood+ discussion thread. If the series is considered licensed the thread will move into the DVD & Licensed forum (this way there won't be multiple threads discussing the same issues).

As it stands, due to the comment "Rights will be offered at NATPE 2006 in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA", AnimeSuki consider the Sony license as a middleman so we have yet to mark it as licensed. But since Sony have produced and do distribute anime in the U.S., it's not exactly clear cut. In other words, we not entirely sure if we should consider it licensed.

Conan-san · 2006-01-24, 05:41

Well, as long as they don't actualy do the job themselves cause they can't dub/distribute to save themselves.

One only needs to lookat how Cyborg 009 and Astroboy ended up to get my point.

gumbaloom · 2006-01-24, 08:43

Urr well as far as the whether or not its licensed is concerned...

You will notice that it's now made it on to the GOH list at AoD. Isn't the GOH list *the* definitive guide as to whether something is licensed = remove?

-gumbaloom

Noratav · 2006-01-24, 08:49

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SPTI has picked up television and home video distribution rights to Blood Plus within Asia (outside of Japan), Latin America, North America, Australia and New Zealand, after a deal with Aniplex Inc. Distribution on DVD for the series will be handled by Sony Pictures Home Entertainment (SPHE).

SPTI have acted as a middleman for anime in the past, most notably for Kenshin, so they shouldn't counted as licensors. But, according to the sentence I highlighted, Sony will be releasing the series on DVD themselves. They have released anime series in the past (Astro Boy and Cyborg 009) albeit very badly. That's the way animeondvd have interpreted it and I can't imagine SPHE sublicensing the show to someone else, SPTI maybe but not SPHE. Still, we can always hope.

***GHDpro*** · 2006-01-24, 14:11

A decision has been reached and AnimeSuki now also consideres Blood+ licensed.

While the article is not extremely clear, it does mention (as marked clearly by Noratav above)
that Sony will be doing the DVD distribution for Blood+. Futhermore several other large anime
sites (like ANN & AoD) now also consider Blood+ licensed.

Sairai_X · 2006-01-24, 22:27

Persuant to our policy of "Sony is big and scary and we don't want to mess with them", Shinsen-Subs has dropped Blood+.

Aristophanes · 2006-01-25, 03:43

Woot it's coming to New Zealand

Goldsplinter · 2006-01-25, 14:08

How Good is Blood+?
Who would love it the most?

(Seeking New Animes)

ShellyKukai · 2006-01-25, 17:55

What past anime series has sony released anyway?
And why did this have to happen just as the show was getting really good?

NoSanninWa · 2006-01-25, 17:59

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Originally Posted by ShellyKukai

What past anime series has sony released anyway?

Take a look at AnimeOnDVD's entry for Sony.

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Originally Posted by ShellyKukai

And why did this have to happen just as the show was getting really good?

That sounds like a pretty good reason right there! Now that fansubs have created interest in this show, Sony steps in and licenses it so that fansubbing will cease. Haven't the fansubs finished their useful purpose from that point of view? Any additional fansubs after this are only cutting into Sony's sales. Right?

Circular Logic · 2006-01-25, 18:17

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

That sounds like a pretty good reason right there! Now that fansubs have created interest in this show, Sony steps in and licenses it so that fansubbing will cease. Haven't the fansubs finished their useful purpose from that point of view? Any additional fansubs after this are only cutting into Sony's sales. Right?

That's fair enough, and I agree with you totally. Only problem is...I now have to wait for a UK release, or import a US one

. And that will take a while (assuming I have the money in the first place). Not that I have a problem with buying anime in the first place, of course...

NoSanninWa · 2006-01-25, 19:12

That is indeed a regrettable problem. Believe me when I say that I feel your pain as if it was my own.

Even Shinsen fears the power of Sony's wrath.

radzor · 2006-01-26, 05:58

To me this feels like judgement day. I live in a country when almost zero to none anime series air on tv so I have to relay on fansubs if I wanna look at new anime.
I have bought a lot of series over internet but my hunger for more and new never ends.
I really loved blood+ from the start but now when it becomes good it is no more it feels. I really hope that som brave squad of translators out there will continue their godly work.
Too bad I dont know Japanese, in sweden you dont have much of that unless you go at a university.

Kyaa the Catlord · 2006-01-26, 06:27

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Originally Posted by Sairai_X

Persuant to our policy of "Sony is big and scary and we don't want to mess with them", Shinsen-Subs has dropped Blood+.

Thank you for the fantastic work you did prior to the liscensing.

Conan-san · 2006-01-27, 02:42

Well, enjoy your screwed over Blood +, the fourm with the eternaly bitter Cyborg 009 and Astroboy 2k3 fans is over there.

Lilith · 2006-01-27, 09:21

This is just another whiney post. XD;;

I really liked Blood+. I'm rarely interested in blood and monsters kind of stories, but this has caught my eye and heart. I really hope that it'll turn out it's not licensed. *prays* >_<;;

Linkthe1st · 2006-01-28, 01:21

well i didn't expect this turn of event's this anime seems a bit gory to be something that anyone would license or hint at so quick. Maybe it's just sony and how money grubbing they are (i'm remided of how they tried to sue the offspring for putting their music on the net back when napster was around).

Either way what i don't understand is why they wouldn't license it sooner as a diffrent crucial time when it would encourage people to go so far as to import the DVDs should they control the fansubbing. But another thing i have still yet to grasp is how they make things aired on TV illeage to be recorded and redistributed over the net when it was obtained from a free source that's directly from the people who made it. It dosn't make much sense after all i got it for free why can't i give it away for free?

wrex_japan · 2006-01-28, 07:53

Episode 16 (Siberian Express) had a lot of action and we get to see a soft side to Haji. Did anyone catch why they are heading to Ekatarinburg in Russia?

Anyway, I have screencaps and a summary here.

ShellyKukai · 2006-01-28, 08:23

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

Take a look at AnimeOnDVD's entry for Sony.

That sounds like a pretty good reason right there! Now that fansubs have created interest in this show, Sony steps in and licenses it so that fansubbing will cease. Haven't the fansubs finished their useful purpose from that point of view? Any additional fansubs after this are only cutting into Sony's sales. Right?

Well the reason why Sony would pick it up now is obvious. But for those who have been enjoying the fansubs, we now have to play the waiting game because no one has any idea of the release schedule. For all we know they could release the thing 1-2 years from now.
By the way, if the Japanese DVDs for Blood+ featured english subtitles I would have no problem importing them but it doesn't look like that's the case so...

sorvani · 2006-01-28, 11:32

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Originally Posted by ShellyKukai

By the way, if the Japanese DVDs for Blood+ featured english subtitles I would have no problem importing them but it doesn't look like that's the case so...

tell me about it. but the practice IS slowly starting. Go to cdjapan and browse around for a while in the new and upcoming releases. there are (only) a handfull coming with english subs. I've got my copy of shinobi pre-ordered, for example.

2006-01-25, 19:12	Link #152
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	That is indeed a regrettable problem. Believe me when I say that I feel your pain as if it was my own. Even Shinsen fears the power of Sony's wrath. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2006-01-26, 05:58	Link #153
radzor Swedish anime addict.. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Age: 35	To me this feels like judgement day. I live in a country when almost zero to none anime series air on tv so I have to relay on fansubs if I wanna look at new anime. I have bought a lot of series over internet but my hunger for more and new never ends. I really loved blood+ from the start but now when it becomes good it is no more it feels. I really hope that som brave squad of translators out there will continue their godly work. Too bad I dont know Japanese, in sweden you dont have much of that unless you go at a university. __________________ Time takes it all, whether you like it or not. My anime list Here.

2006-01-28, 07:53	Link #158
wrex_japan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tokyo, Japan	Blood + Ep. 16 Episode 16 (Siberian Express) had a lot of action and we get to see a soft side to Haji. Did anyone catch why they are heading to Ekatarinburg in Russia? Anyway, I have screencaps and a summary here.

2006-01-24, 05:41	Link #142
Conan-san Cruel Angel's Thesis Join Date: Oct 2004	Well, as long as they don't actualy do the job themselves cause they can't dub/distribute to save themselves. One only needs to lookat how Cyborg 009 and Astroboy ended up to get my point.

2006-01-24, 08:43	Link #143
gumbaloom Live-eviL Staffer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sailor Moon Musical Fansubbing Land	Urr well as far as the whether or not its licensed is concerned... You will notice that it's now made it on to the GOH list at AoD. Isn't the GOH list the definitive guide as to whether something is licensed = remove? -gumbaloom

2006-01-24, 14:11	Link #145
*GHDpro* Administrator Administrator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Netherlands Age: 45	A decision has been reached and AnimeSuki now also consideres Blood+ licensed. While the article is not extremely clear, it does mention (as marked clearly by Noratav above) that Sony will be doing the DVD distribution for Blood+. Futhermore several other large anime sites (like ANN & AoD) now also consider Blood+ licensed.

2006-01-24, 22:27	Link #146
Sairai_X Member Join Date: Jul 2004	Persuant to our policy of "Sony is big and scary and we don't want to mess with them", Shinsen-Subs has dropped Blood+.

2006-01-25, 03:43	Link #147
Aristophanes I have returned Join Date: Dec 2005	Woot it's coming to New Zealand

2006-01-25, 14:08	Link #148
Goldsplinter Member Join Date: Jan 2006	How Good is Blood+? Who would love it the most? (Seeking New Animes)

2006-01-25, 17:55	Link #149
ShellyKukai Member Join Date: May 2004	What past anime series has sony released anyway? And why did this have to happen just as the show was getting really good?

2006-01-27, 02:42	Link #155
Conan-san Cruel Angel's Thesis Join Date: Oct 2004	Well, enjoy your screwed over Blood +, the fourm with the eternaly bitter Cyborg 009 and Astroboy 2k3 fans is over there.

2006-01-27, 09:21	Link #156
Lilith Your average fangirl Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.A.E. - Dubai Age: 37	This is just another whiney post. XD;; I really liked Blood+. I'm rarely interested in blood and monsters kind of stories, but this has caught my eye and heart. I really hope that it'll turn out it's not licensed. prays >_<;;

2006-01-28, 01:21	Link #157
Linkthe1st L33t Otaku M45t3r Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a cave which you never want to venture Age: 36	well i didn't expect this turn of event's this anime seems a bit gory to be something that anyone would license or hint at so quick. Maybe it's just sony and how money grubbing they are (i'm remided of how they tried to sue the offspring for putting their music on the net back when napster was around). Either way what i don't understand is why they wouldn't license it sooner as a diffrent crucial time when it would encourage people to go so far as to import the DVDs should they control the fansubbing. But another thing i have still yet to grasp is how they make things aired on TV illeage to be recorded and redistributed over the net when it was obtained from a free source that's directly from the people who made it. It dosn't make much sense after all i got it for free why can't i give it away for free?