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2013-02-06, 10:07 | Link #683 | |
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One thing I noticed about the ideas: It's not dark enough. WHERE'S MY DESPAIR DAMMNIT!? Actually, there was an idea to place Comet in TDA timeline, in which Comets were a wet-work squadron for the U.S, with authorization to do "whatever it takes", up to including terminating its allies. Hilarity ensures when F-22s burn Hawaii to the ground. Consequently, Comet took a darker bent after that, hence we have gas attacks in it, along with mass civilian deaths, maimed soldiers, psychological trauma and people's lifes being spent like currency. And no-one cares. (Well, will have - some of that is in this one chapter I continue to forgot to complete.) I also want to see a story where someone is actively trying to fuck with Takeru trying to fix things. As in, there are people actively trying to get Bad End. For contrast though, I could write Schwarzemarken like it was supposed to be - a romantic comedy. In between Comet, and possibly other grimdark stuff I'm making.
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2013-02-06, 21:46 | Link #684 | ||||
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Hey, let’s talk about what the Moe Anthropomorphic Personification of the TSFs would be like, personality wise I mean? Obviously as Wild Goose has already said, the Takemikazuchi will be a high maintenance lady of war/ ojou-type (high performance, high maintenance IRG exclusive TSF) and the Shiranui would be a textbook tsun-dere (hard to learn how to love, but once you do she dances for you), but what about the other TSFs? All I’ve got so far is the F-22A Raptor who I’ve pegged as the silent assassin type who to fight smarts using long range weapons and flanking tactics (essentially how the F022 fights using existing US doctrines). Pragmatic professional soldier-type to gets the job done, whatever the cost, and because of her ‘ice queen’ personality she doesn’t have a lot of friends. She’s not the ‘Big All-American Hero’ everyone thinks she is, and that frustrates her to no end since all she wants to do is serve her country proudly as a professional, not some Hollywood Rambo wannabe (the ATF results giving people the wrong idea about the F-22). This might give her some self-esteem issues, particularly is people keep reminding her actually lost to her Northrock counterpart, the YF-23, in the ATF and she’s actually the ‘weaker machine’. Aside for that, the question is how do we this into a harem comedy? He’s one idea. Spoiler for Harem Comedy:
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Okay. Someone figure out what the Muv Luv version of Zetsubo-sensei and his class will be like Muv Luv! Quote:
My guess is that the Japanese wanted to act against the Shogun for after the events in TDA-2. Since she protects the status quo is pretty much pro-American involvement compared to the rest of the Japanese government, some CIA genius figures that they might as well give her total control of the Japanese remnants… by blowing away the rest of the Japanese and forcing the entire civilian population to rely on her as the sole surviving leader. Everybody wins (in theory)! Quote:
Why would anti-Takeru aim for a bad end? There has to be a reason he wants a certain scenario to come about. Maybe if that antagonist wants American supremacy, thinks Alternative V is the only way to save the planet, or wants Japan to be the world’s sole superpower I can accept, but trolling Takeru for the sake of trolling Takeru for fun doesn’t really fly with me…. Unless you make the fella as deranged as the Joker and Vaas Monternegro, at which point it boils down to whether we can make the guy psycho enough. |
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2013-02-06, 23:12 | Link #685 | |
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2013-02-07, 02:11 | Link #686 | |
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...Imma gonna hafta...hafta...write that Transformers Crossover now. It can't possibly be any more facepalm-worthy... It's not bad. It's just...well...my brain broke.
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2013-02-07, 02:34 | Link #689 |
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Please Teach Us~ Toth-sensei~!!!
Featuring Berkut-chan and Beatrix Bremer. *ekhm* Well, once the French are dealt with...there are only so many resources that can support so many people. And with Ikaruga plotting...well...*shades pull* Japan Had Outlived its Usefulness/ Well, perhaps it would be better to show the whole thing from Alt V. perspective. Call me devil's advocate, but Alternative IV is not nearly as wonderful as its perceived, and its leaders are no less ruthless than those of V. Also, let's put in Terminator-chan: a typical Kuudere who hits on Yuuya. She also tries to get Cryska to have a semblance of normal feelings, and facepalms every time Cryska does something silly. Then, there's Berkut-chan, who, while seemingly beautiful, intelligent and caring, is in fact, a master bitch and a yandere. Finally, Fulcrum-kun, who's a typical Shakespearean bishonen who likes killing people. (Also, gay Tomcat gogogo!!!!)
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Okay. Someone figure out what the Muv Luv version of Zetsubo-sensei and his class will be like Muv Luv! Quote:
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That said, imagine if Yuuya and Cerberus' Luna meet. Both of them TSF nerds... and Luna actively trying to marry her Typhoon.... Quote:
Yuuya's love for his TSFs is non-sexual (well, for the mecha, not the moe TSF girls), but it's also amusing because he pays more attention to his TSF than to the pretty girls around him. Quote:
But since most ships and fighters are girls, that means that Tomcat-chan is a lesbian catgirl who tries to get into Yui-hime's pants... and is trying to assemble a TSF girls yuri harem. She has the ability to multitask and do 4 girls at once. Quote:
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2013-02-07, 05:12 | Link #692 | |
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The fun thing also, if you've read the actual Sentou Yousei Yukikaze novels (In particualr, Good Luck Yukikaze), there's a reference that the aliens don't recognize humans as living, but they definitely acknowledge the AI systems of the machines they're fighting as alive. This'd be a very nice tangent--having a TSF with an AI system that (like Yuuko theorized) is practically a sythetic/inorganic intelligence. ...of course, the whole problem with that is that the Muv-Luv Alt universe hasn't had the opportunity to develop intelligent standalone AI...at least none more intelligent than a recon drone.
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2013-02-07, 06:00 | Link #693 |
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So to the JAM perspective, they're fighting carbon-based drones, while the only living entities on the goddamn planet are the 12 AIs in the Super Sylphs of SAF 5th Squadron.
Ah, Yukikaze, Need to rewatch that show. Also, managed to get the Yukikaze artbook, and it had some really interesting tidbits; in particular, the names of all Boomerang Super Sylphs.
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2013-02-07, 08:30 | Link #694 | ||||
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What in the Crazy Crap Crackers?! The Master’s here? This explains everything! Someone find the funny man with the big blue box! …Wrong Master? Oh, Thank god! You scared me dude! I was so sure Ikaruga’s good looks came from being a Timelord… Quote:
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We could easily have the sentient AI accidentally arise by a miscalculation by Yuuko when she’s designing from the XM3 OS or some Project Prominence side project. A Johnny Five ‘act of god’ lighting strike might work as well. Hell, you could even handwave it that the Ai doesn’t even know how it become sentient, just one day it woke up and knew it was alive. The point is that the TSF is now sentient, and might just be one of the few things that meet the BETA criteria of ‘sentient life’ on the whole goddamn planet. The implications of Yuuya having a sentient Shiranui and Luna now having a Typhoon who actually loves her back aside, this crossover could very well be awesome in the right hands since it mixes everything that was cool about Yukikaze with the world of Muv Luv. |
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2013-02-07, 10:38 | Link #695 | ||
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I HAVE CONTROL. GOOD LUCK LT. BRIDGES. And then there's this: Spoiler for Friend or Foe?:
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2013-02-07, 22:51 | Link #696 | ||
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Spoiler for Excerpt from Good Luck, Yukikaze:
Granted this is talking a lot about the concept of a leader for all of earth and an organization that has held the line on the other side of a dimensional portal so effectively that the people back home have been able to ignore the JAM threat completely, but don't those excerpts make you think of Takeru, Youko, and all the petty politics and nationalism that is constantly causing problems in humanity's war against the BETA in Muv Luv? Quote:
According to wikipedia the reason the older Grumman F7F prop driven fighter had its name changed from Tomcat to Tigercat was because the name Tomcat was considered too suggestive at the time. Of course that was nearly thirty years before the Tomcat entered service. Last edited by Darthtabby; 2013-02-07 at 23:02. |
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2013-02-08, 01:38 | Link #697 | ||
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Also, you have both books? I haven't been able to find them for reading, despite looking. I am now officially envious. Quote:
*facepalms* ...unless the Tomcat's anthropomorphic personification looks like a boy, and refers to itself as boku, but is really a rather tomboyish girl! Right, Tomcat is Makoto! The 765Pro idol whose boyish charms make other girls want her! *Goose is shot* Yes, I'm aware that the canonical 765Pro Tomcat girl is Azusa-san.
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2013-02-08, 04:28 | Link #698 | |
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I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who picked up on this. Hmmm, well, if you think about it, Yuuko is the Doctor, Master is...well, Master, and Ikaruga would be Jack. ...Earth is so doomed. Also, my idea about Alt. V is not just about it sounding, in pure theory, as something more likely to work than Alt. IV - it's also that in twisted way, Alt. IV didn't solve much! Think about it - yes, Original Hive is destroyed, but many more battles remain before BETA will be pushed out, and there's no way of telling if mankind won't screw something up along the way. Also, the rampant nationalism and politics still remain, with only the threat of BETA in space holding mankind together. That's not a very stable glue; anything may go at the moment, and frankly, Yuuko is not an unmistakable genuis - nor is she a very altruistic politician. Vast swathes of Earth were also already devastated by BETA, and it remains to be seen just how well it can recover. In some ways, just starting anew on another planet may make things better, especially when national governments are more interested in making the most out of Earth's ruins. Spoiler for For Unlimited End:
Also, I ended up with Tomcat and Fulcrum as males because I like gender equality. Spoiler for Jive Turkey:
No need to thank me.
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The comparison with Muv-Luv is when you notice that early in the war the BETA tended to attack mechanisms but not individual soldiers (except as raw materials). For all the BETA Superiors know, the TSFs were using humans as power sources or tactical weapons computers... Quote:
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Also my take on Alternative V: I do not mind, and actually encourage humanity to reach out and find a new home beyond Earth...but it has to be BY CHOICE, not because we're being overrun by Alien bugs. ...that, and what happens if the BETA drop by on that new planet before the population is ready? Quote:
"Standing out by being just like everyone else." A unified government in the Muv-Luv universe doesn't exist--in spite of facing a common threat--because people believe that to be part a major movement, a one world government, means giving up their individual right to choose things on their own. Like how the French dropped out of the Eurofighter program (in ML and in real life) because things weren't going their way. People/Groups have desires and wants, and they may compromise on some, but there will always be one or two that they will stick to, despite common sense telling them this is unwise. Although the characters in MLA talk about the need for a unified government, let's face it: Japan, the United States, and other countries would pay only lip service to it at best---and outright fight it at the worst.The US wants the United Nations to do things the US way, Japan and Asian natiosn want it done another, so forth and so on. There will always be some group/organization/government/country that will insist on doing outlandish and downright dangerous things to the world at large just to show that they're tougher and better than everyone else/that they have a God-given mission to change the world the way THEY see fit. Human beings (both as individuals and groups) have two problems that work in the favor of ANY Alien invader: 1.) At a subconscious level we do not care for anyone who does not support them or have anything of value we can make use of. 2.) Majority of human beings have an inabilty to think long-term.
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2013-02-08, 18:36 | Link #700 |
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So after knowing this series for several years.
"http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/S-11_SD-SYSTEM" S-11 Self Destruct System September 11 > Terrorists Self destruct and brings down twin towers S-11 Sd system was invented by islamic extremists! |
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