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Sakuya · 2006-04-16, 19:12

Interesting. I'll have to download that OP to see. It'd be cool if you could make this for this other action show that is unfortunately in stereo. Well, it's better than mono...but it is still stereo. Oh well, can't have everything can we?

What are the "original soundtrack CDs" though? Do you mean the episodes themselves will have 5.1 as well and not just the opening/ending?

gumbaloom · 2006-04-17, 14:37

Yes.

The Sailor Moon Music Box contains *most* of the BGM used in the show along with cue lists of the BGM that was used in each ep.

Mr Yaoiboy will take rips from the cd and use that the remaster the OST. The DVD's have a monaural AC3 soundtrack but the soundtrack cd's are stereo. Mr Yaoiboy is the master audio expert as he has demonstrated in Harlock.

-gumbaloom

Sakuya · 2006-04-18, 00:35

Ah, so you're putting it all together all over again and making it 5.1 in the process? So cool! Will you be creating some bass effects as well? I can't seem to convert the test clip opening to DVD so I can't hear the 5.1 sound.

YaoiBoy · 2006-04-22, 02:58

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Originally Posted by Sakuya

Ah, so you're putting it all together all over again and making it 5.1 in the process? So cool! Will you be creating some bass effects as well? I can't seem to convert the test clip opening to DVD so I can't hear the 5.1 sound.

The best way to enjoy the 5.1 track is with a 5.1 channel (or higher) enabled soundcard and speakers. Personally, I use the S/PDIF output to run the audio to a home theater. Now, I think the audio for Sailor Stars has been converted to AAC, so I'm not certain the S/PDIF option will work anymore.

If there is interest, we can make an MKV edition that would be able to use the native AC3 audio.

I hadn't planned on doing too much work with the sound FX, but I did anyway...

The sub is primarily being used to "beef up" the music track. If time allows I may start to do more extensive FX work like I'm using on Harlock, but it takes longer.

Sakuya · 2006-04-22, 03:37

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Originally Posted by YaoiBoy

If there is interest, we can make an MKV edition that would be able to use the native AC3 audio.

That would be great since I think it's a more common format than MP4/AAC.

Although I'm just interested in hearing your remixed 5.1 track. I grew tired of Sailor Moon.

YaoiBoy · 2006-04-22, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Sakuya

That would be great since I think it's a more common format than MP4/AAC.

Although I'm just interested in hearing your remixed 5.1 track. I grew tired of Sailor Moon.

The AVI version has the AC3 version of the audio track. Looks like the MKV will be unnecessary.

Sakuya · 2006-04-22, 18:00

Yes, I saw. Thanks very much! *goes download*

I think Sailor Stars is the only season I watched only once (except for the last few episodes and SuperS, but then I didn't want to watch SuperS ever again).

And I'm curious about what technique you use for remastering the audio from a mono track even. Did you add bass and all that SFX?

YaoiBoy · 2006-04-22, 18:22

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Originally Posted by Sakuya

Yes, I saw. Thanks very much! *goes download*

I think Sailor Stars is the only season I watched only once (except for the last few episodes and SuperS, but then I didn't want to watch SuperS ever again).

And I'm curious about what technique you use for remastering the audio from a mono track even. Did you add bass and all that SFX?

I do all the audio editing in Sony's Vegas Video. The original mono track is actually still there most of the time. If there is dialog, I have to use it and simply add to it. If there is no dialog, I can completely replace the audio.

When dialog and music are present together, I mix the stereo music on top to mask out the mono music. This can get tricky! ^_^

I did a bit of FX work like the birds, wind, reverb and "shoujo sprinkles." ^_^

The FX I add come from either an FX library or samples from the show. The music comes from the OST CDs.

If time permits, I'll do more extensive audio work as I become more familiar with the show.

Sakuya · 2006-04-22, 18:31

Interesting, so does this new audio track with its new FX sound exactly the same as the original besides the 5.1 upgrade? Sorry, it's still downloading so I can't hear it yet.

Am excited!

Edit:
Okay, I've seen it on my DVD player now. Some feedback. The enhanced 5.1 effects for the songs is prety nice. However for the rest, it sounds like stereo without much "surround sound" coming from the rear speakers.

But I guess making a true 5.1 surround sound from a mere mono audio is a pretty difficult task, if at all possible. Keep it up!

YaoiBoy · 2006-04-23, 02:14

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Originally Posted by Sakuya

Interesting, so does this new audio track with its new FX sound exactly the same as the original besides the 5.1 upgrade? Sorry, it's still downloading so I can't hear it yet.

Am excited!

Edit:
Okay, I've seen it on my DVD player now. Some feedback. The enhanced 5.1 effects for the songs is prety nice. However for the rest, it sounds like stereo without much "surround sound" coming from the rear speakers.

But I guess making a true 5.1 surround sound from a mere mono audio is a pretty difficult task, if at all possible. Keep it up!

Ah... It seems the demand is there. This was originally going to be a "music only" remaster, but now that I know people want it, I will indeed do more work the FX!

If you'd like a sample of what I'd consider a more complete remastering, check out our Captain Harlock: Special Edition. I'll try and raise Sailor Stars to this level.

Thanks for the feedback!

Sakuya · 2006-04-23, 02:16

Ooh, so it is possible? Thanks. Keep up the great work!

Mr. DJ · 2006-04-23, 07:03

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My first question would be What the big deal so what they are men then women. Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune are gay.
Just my 2 cents

that's easier to cover up than females who have male disguises then transform back to females. You can explain the disguises in the lamest of terms to idiotic american parents, but it's still the fact they'll see it as "crossdressing"

Uranus and Neptune are cousins in the dub I believe...and wtf is up w/ Pluto's name? Trista Mayo...

zrdb · 2006-04-23, 14:07

What I did here was download the xvid version of ep.167, then use Virtual Dub Mod to remove the mp3 soundtrack, then use my favorite mpeg4 to mpeg 2 conversion program to convert the video (cause the audio was already ac3 5.1 nothing had to be done to it), then reauthor it into an ISO file and burn it to a dvd-result-the best looking and sounding Sailor Stars ep. I've ever seen!! And I'm not a fag or female! I"m just a shojo lover.

Mystery Person X · 2006-04-25, 00:20

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Originally Posted by DjTrizz

and wtf is up w/ Pluto's name? Trista Mayo...

Her first name is Trista, which means "sad", same as the Japanese name (Setsuna). Her surname is Meioh, same as in the Japanese version.

Mr. DJ · 2006-04-25, 08:19

ah, I see...damn American language...XD

Apocryphal · 2006-04-25, 19:49

This is very trivial and is not directly addressed in the anime, but since the earthly forms of the Sailor Stars have the same last names, are they trying to pose as brothers or something?

YaoiBoy · 2006-05-02, 18:38

Okay folks...

Here is the question: What file format would you prefer to have for the h264 version?

Here are the choices:

1) MP4 file with h264 video and bog standard remastered aac audio but not 5.1 (2.0 stereo) - CURRENTLY USED FORMAT

2) MKV file with h264 video (hard subbed) with 5.1 surround ac3 audio

3) AVI file with h264 video with 5.1 surround ac3 audio

All choices include the original mono track as well. The XviD version will continue to be released as is. The next release will be based on the answers we receive here. HE-AAC 5.1 is not being offered as an option because I'd prefer not to compress the audio any more than necessary. The music is very dynamic and AC3 will let it sound it's best. ^_^

yuchan · 2006-05-02, 18:42

I'd prefer the avi! But whatever you do is will be appreciated!

Sakuya · 2006-05-02, 20:56

Is the MKV the only one that's hard subbed since it's the only one that's noted as that.

I'm going to get the normal XviD version so that won't apply to me. But my opinion is that MKV and AVI would be more compatible formats for people.

So how is your audio mastering coming along?

You're doing something very unique that I've never seen done before.

Mystery Person X · 2006-05-03, 03:57

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Originally Posted by Apocryphal

This is very trivial and is not directly addressed in the anime, but since the earthly forms of the Sailor Stars have the same last names, are they trying to pose as brothers or something?

They all have the same first/personal name, not surname. More info here.

2006-04-22, 18:31	Link #69
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Interesting, so does this new audio track with its new FX sound exactly the same as the original besides the 5.1 upgrade? Sorry, it's still downloading so I can't hear it yet. Am excited! Edit: Okay, I've seen it on my DVD player now. Some feedback. The enhanced 5.1 effects for the songs is prety nice. However for the rest, it sounds like stereo without much "surround sound" coming from the rear speakers. But I guess making a true 5.1 surround sound from a mere mono audio is a pretty difficult task, if at all possible. Keep it up! Last edited by Sakuya; 2006-04-22 at 21:53.

2006-05-02, 18:38	Link #77
YaoiBoy [Live-eviL] Naughty Boy Fansubber Join Date: Dec 2004	File format question Okay folks... Here is the question: What file format would you prefer to have for the h264 version? Here are the choices: 1) MP4 file with h264 video and bog standard remastered aac audio but not 5.1 (2.0 stereo) - CURRENTLY USED FORMAT 2) MKV file with h264 video (hard subbed) with 5.1 surround ac3 audio 3) AVI file with h264 video with 5.1 surround ac3 audio All choices include the original mono track as well. The XviD version will continue to be released as is. The next release will be based on the answers we receive here. HE-AAC 5.1 is not being offered as an option because I'd prefer not to compress the audio any more than necessary. The music is very dynamic and AC3 will let it sound it's best. ^_^

2006-04-16, 19:12	Link #61
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Interesting. I'll have to download that OP to see. It'd be cool if you could make this for this other action show that is unfortunately in stereo. Well, it's better than mono...but it is still stereo. Oh well, can't have everything can we? What are the "original soundtrack CDs" though? Do you mean the episodes themselves will have 5.1 as well and not just the opening/ending?

2006-04-17, 14:37	Link #62
gumbaloom Live-eviL Staffer Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sailor Moon Musical Fansubbing Land	Yes. The Sailor Moon Music Box contains most of the BGM used in the show along with cue lists of the BGM that was used in each ep. Mr Yaoiboy will take rips from the cd and use that the remaster the OST. The DVD's have a monaural AC3 soundtrack but the soundtrack cd's are stereo. Mr Yaoiboy is the master audio expert as he has demonstrated in Harlock. -gumbaloom

2006-04-18, 00:35	Link #63
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Ah, so you're putting it all together all over again and making it 5.1 in the process? So cool! Will you be creating some bass effects as well? I can't seem to convert the test clip opening to DVD so I can't hear the 5.1 sound.

2006-04-22, 18:00	Link #67
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Yes, I saw. Thanks very much! goes download I think Sailor Stars is the only season I watched only once (except for the last few episodes and SuperS, but then I didn't want to watch SuperS ever again). And I'm curious about what technique you use for remastering the audio from a mono track even. Did you add bass and all that SFX?

2006-04-23, 02:16	Link #71
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Ooh, so it is possible? Thanks. Keep up the great work!

2006-04-23, 14:07	Link #73
zrdb I'm Under Arrest!! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Huh? Didn't know I had to be somewhere.......	What I did here was download the xvid version of ep.167, then use Virtual Dub Mod to remove the mp3 soundtrack, then use my favorite mpeg4 to mpeg 2 conversion program to convert the video (cause the audio was already ac3 5.1 nothing had to be done to it), then reauthor it into an ISO file and burn it to a dvd-result-the best looking and sounding Sailor Stars ep. I've ever seen!! And I'm not a fag or female! I"m just a shojo lover.

2006-04-25, 08:19	Link #75
Mr. DJ Schwing! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Central Texas Age: 39	ah, I see...damn American language...XD

2006-04-25, 19:49	Link #76
Apocryphal Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Still trying to decide...	This is very trivial and is not directly addressed in the anime, but since the earthly forms of the Sailor Stars have the same last names, are they trying to pose as brothers or something?

2006-05-02, 18:42	Link #78
yuchan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	I'd prefer the avi! But whatever you do is will be appreciated!

2006-05-02, 20:56	Link #79
Sakuya Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United States Age: 35	Is the MKV the only one that's hard subbed since it's the only one that's noted as that. I'm going to get the normal XviD version so that won't apply to me. But my opinion is that MKV and AVI would be more compatible formats for people. So how is your audio mastering coming along? You're doing something very unique that I've never seen done before.