2011-02-23, 22:11 | Link #301 |
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well... its like fighting a person who has a built-in lie detector, but how can you steal an iris? unless you gouge out the eyes in question or kill the iris person, then there....
seriously... they'll believe it... because they dont even question the method to steal the iris
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Or we can have the temporary disability which could work in some way but I would say that isn't farfetched from calling her the iris eater if she possesses the power to disable. Since removing or temporary disabling is somewhat a null ability. |
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2011-02-23, 23:11 | Link #304 | |
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2011-02-23, 23:12 | Link #305 |
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Although it's not explicitly stated, no Iris has the power to directly affect others so far. So far, everyone's Irises allow them to see something others cannot. It is nothing more than an additional form of perception, which then can be used to dictate their actions.
An "Iris" the removes other Irises contradicts the base concept if this series because such a power does not allow the person to see anything differently. This is the same reason why there isn't an Iris with laser vision. |
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2011-02-24, 13:23 | Link #307 | |
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I can make assumptions on what Irises can do, because there is precedence for my assumptions. All of the Irises revealed so far give the person the ability to see something. This is fact. What is not guaranteed is an Iris with laser vision or there being a geniune Iris Hunter. The ability to fire lasers or the ability to remove Irises are not abilities that affect the owner's sight. Because there is no precedence, the existence of an Iris erasing power is not confirmed, nor is it absolute. As of chapter 13, it is just a rumor, which may or may not be true based on associations that do not imply causation. |
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2011-02-24, 16:25 | Link #308 | |
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Perhaps she analyzes her target's Iris and accordingly prepares the worst thing the person can possibly see as a physical threat. That way, it's not like Houjou can't see, it's that he won't dare to see. |
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2011-02-24, 16:44 | Link #310 | |
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2011-02-24, 19:29 | Link #311 | |
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I would agree in the fact that all Irises shown thus far has given them the ability to see something. However, irises type, ability, what strengthens or weakens them or other defining factors have not been outlined. For all we know this school could be for a specific type of Iris, like the qualifications you've outlined as bases of your argument, but how do we know there IS or IS NOT some other type of school for different types of irises. We don't have enough evidence to make a conclusion either way without creating some sort of fallacious argument. Precedence only works if the parmeters are defined and they don't create logical fallacies in the process. Just because you're presented with evidence of how something possibly works doesn't mean that there isn't any possibility of it working out side that explanation. Precedence becomes a stronger argument over time that, however, is not on your side only 13 chapters into the story. I think the mere concept of the Iris hunter works against the theory that irises only let you see a certain thing. Don't get me wrong, I think you are totally entitled to take evidence and draw conclusions from them. All I was saying is that evidence is lacking for you to draw that type of conclusion with any degree of certainty.
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2011-02-25, 00:47 | Link #313 | |
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2011-03-02, 12:51 | Link #314 |
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I think it's pretty much confirmed that Kuga is indeed the Iris hunter in chapter 14. It's definitely psychological manipulation is that Kuga pushs them to the point of the people didn't want to use their Iris.
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