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Old 2009-08-02, 15:14   Link #1761
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Yes I think Shana will wipe the floor with Sabrac. If she can't how is she gonna deal with the other 3 and Snake Yuji? She is on a whole different level now. Makes me wonder what is she really. We do know that she is somehow very special (ok she's the protagonist, but I'm talking about in-universe reasons). We'll probably get some revelation on that.

As for Margery, she is definitely not dead, just comatose. I'm not sure if her contract with Marchosias is still good though; will have to read the later volumes more carefully for that.
That must have been a pretty significant upgrade if she's strong enough to beat Sabrac now.

Do you know how long she was in Tendokyu for before she became a flame haze?

Oh and i was at B-T and i noticed you started helping out with the translation, thanks for that and keep up the good work
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Old 2009-08-02, 23:37   Link #1762
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Shana looks like she's only twelve or thirteen.

Did Wilhelmina "acquire" her when she was an infant or when she was fairly old enough to walk? Heck, I wonder what Shana was doing before she even came to the Tendou-Kyuu.
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Old 2009-08-03, 08:39   Link #1763
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Did Wilhelmina "acquire" her when she was an infant or when she was fairly old enough to walk? Heck, I wonder what Shana was doing before she even came to the Tendou-Kyuu.
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Old 2009-08-03, 09:04   Link #1764
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Old 2009-08-03, 13:15   Link #1765
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What?! Wilhelmina didn't even meet Johan and Pheles until after the Tendou-Kyuu sank into the ocean and Shana had become a Flame Haze.
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Old 2009-08-03, 13:29   Link #1766
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What?! Wilhelmina didn't even meet Johan and Pheles until after the Tendou-Kyuu sank into the ocean and Shana had become a Flame Haze.
you just ruined the joke he made.......
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Old 2009-08-03, 13:41   Link #1767
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you just ruined the joke he made.......
Well, then I humbly seek some unforgivable retribution if that is the case.

Maybe I've been a bit too eager and zealous in seeking the complete summaries to Volume 17, 18, and 19. But then again, the translators have lives outside the disclosure of spoilers ans such.

Okay, I'll shut up now.
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Old 2009-08-03, 17:37   Link #1768
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Anyways, I hope the animation quality is better than last season.

I don't see any joke that Capo ruined but then again, it wouldn't be a bad idea for the Flame Hazes to do some genetic engineering and cloning to get human contract participants. Perhaps start a gene program to manipulate embryonic traits to make a female tsundere loli production line.
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Old 2009-08-11, 18:46   Link #1769
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Aha, sorry for barging in, but just stumbled on this thread.

Discussion seems interesting, and I am one of those that is interested (yet fearful) to see what season 3 will become.
However, I'm kinda feeling that SnS might after all... have a tragic end... (I.E Yuji dies... Shana separated from him or better, they both die)
(It would be friggin epic, also sad though... but it would mark me even more thatn Kimi Ga nozomu Eien or Grave of the Fireflies)


When is novel 19 coming out already?

And I didn't read most of them because BT hasn't translated the bulk yet. (I feel sorry for the guy translating though, he's alone I think.)

So, can someone enlighten me a bit? I know the following things:

1. Yuji is now with SotF and is realtively a bad guy that can't be saved, as himself chose to become "evil"
2. Shana has lost her power when she was kidnapped to Seirei Den (What happened after that?)
3. All Flame Hazes are gathering to go and kill SotF and they have a plan (don't know what plan)
4. Shana has really made up her mind and does not love Yuji anymore??? O.o
5. Sabrac is about to get his ass kicked. (By Shana who got uber powerful, but how please?)

I would be very grateful if someone could answer me.
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Old 2009-08-15, 20:25   Link #1770
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Aha, sorry for barging in, but just stumbled on this thread.

Discussion seems interesting, and I am one of those that is interested (yet fearful) to see what season 3 will become.
However, I'm kinda feeling that SnS might after all... have a tragic end... (I.E Yuji dies... Shana separated from him or better, they both die)
(It would be friggin epic, also sad though... but it would mark me even more thatn Kimi Ga nozomu Eien or Grave of the Fireflies)


When is novel 19 coming out already?

And I didn't read most of them because BT hasn't translated the bulk yet. (I feel sorry for the guy translating though, he's alone I think.)

So, can someone enlighten me a bit? I know the following things:

1. Yuji is now with SotF and is realtively a bad guy that can't be saved, as himself chose to become "evil"
2. Shana has lost her power when she was kidnapped to Seirei Den (What happened after that?)
3. All Flame Hazes are gathering to go and kill SotF and they have a plan (don't know what plan)
4. Shana has really made up her mind and does not love Yuji anymore??? O.o
5. Sabrac is about to get his ass kicked. (By Shana who got uber powerful, but how please?)

I would be very grateful if someone could answer me.
Novel 19 comes out September 10.

1. I don't think Yuji is really evil seems like the merger with SotF has corrupted him.
2. Shana was locked up in SotF/Yuji's room for awhile then I believe she accepted and held SotF/Yuji's hand with love in an attempt to reach Yuji's real self.
3. Not really sure what the other flame hazes are planning.
4. I believe Shana still does love Yuji since she was trying to reach his real self.
5. Shana will probably kick Sabrac's ass pretty easily she did beat him once before after all and shes alot stronger now. As for how Shana got her powerup the whole translation for that part is on page 85.
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Old 2009-08-16, 15:14   Link #1771
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Ok, thanks for the precisions.

I am rather relieved to hear that Shana X Yuji chemistry is still going on, although a bit complex now. (Yoshida was forgotten as I see)

I do rather think that the fight between Sabrac and Shana will ensue in a Shana win, but it will be no joke fight, as to beat Sabrac, Shana had 2 ALLIES WITH HER.

Now, I wonder if she has an unrestricted spell to separate Sabrac from his power source...

Margery is not here.

(Where's she by the way? Is the scene when she's been terrified by the truth the last scene we see her?)
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Old 2009-08-16, 15:51   Link #1772
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I just started on the Shakugan no Shana series, so if im unclear about stuff please forgive me Anyway, according to wikipedia, there are 21 SnS novels, but why are people on the forum saying volume 19 is coming out in september? Are there 2 so-called "side story" novels?
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Old 2009-08-16, 15:52   Link #1773
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More like 3 of them.
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Old 2009-08-16, 15:59   Link #1774
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Oh right, the one coming out next month is volume 22. Thanks for the info. Also, i was wondering who SoTF is, and how Yuji became evil. I just read the volume 16 translation and im very confused. Are there translations for eariler volumes? Sorry for the questions, but i feel like im being sucked into the shanaverse... and there's no way out.
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Old 2009-08-16, 16:11   Link #1775
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Prepared to be immensely spoiled....

Click on the spoiler below if you want information:

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Old 2009-08-16, 16:12   Link #1776
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Margery lost her contract after that I believe and is currently in a near death state
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Old 2009-08-16, 16:16   Link #1777
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... wow, i got immensely spoiled. But im happy for it Im halfway through season 2, around episode 16. Does season 2 cover this arc, or will i be forced to wait till season 3 in fall 2010? It will be a long wait...
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Old 2009-08-16, 16:30   Link #1778
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Season 3 will cover this arc
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Old 2009-08-16, 16:30   Link #1779
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And it will probably have a few fillers. (i.e Anime only episodes)
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Old 2009-08-16, 16:36   Link #1780
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Everyone on this forum seem to be so well informed when it comes to SnS. I feel like im the only one who can't read japanese...
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