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marvelB · 2021-02-23, 12:50

New chap:

Spoiler for ch. 5:

Edit: Well, a translation is out, though it's a rough one. So apparently the fox represents some rebel group? And addressing that last spread once more, it seems that Tristan is Plague, while Lancelot is War. So I guess Famine is the child of King and Diane? Needless to say, I'm really looking forward to when the rest of them show up in the story.

BTW, I also really liked how Donnie tried to protect Percy from the Black Knight. I also find it all the more intriguing that the fox rescued him. I wonder if he'll receive special training alongside Percy? At least, I'm pretty sure we're going down the training route now that our protagonist is aware of his destiny....

Kanon · 2021-02-24, 08:02

Translation by one of the usual group is out.

Tristan looks absolutely awesome in that spread. I hope he will actually look like that, and this isn't a "depiction of the Four Knights may not be completely accurate" kind of picture. On the other hand, I'm disappointed the last one isn't a woman.

As for Percival, I'm not losing hope yet. He needs to fill his grandpa's cape!

DragonOsman · 2021-02-26, 12:26

Both the group that sent the fox and the group Percival's father and that black knight belong to oppose the Four Knights of the Apocalypse? Or did I misunderstand?

And yeah, hopefully Percival will get growth spurt that lets him fill his grandpa's cape.

And how come the Four Knights are prophesied to destroy the world? Aren't they supposed to be the heroes? Either they'll just destroy the world as the people in the story know it which is essentially the same as saving it, or that part of the prophecy is wrong because it was told by people who oppose the Four Knights.

Edit: Could be that the fox meant that it was sent by a group that opposes the group of knights Percival's father and the black knight belong to. This seems likelier, otherwise the fox wouldn't try to help Percy.

marvelB · 2021-03-02, 12:20

In this week's chapter:

Spoiler for ch. 6:

AP24 · 2021-03-02, 13:51

So it’s 16 years after the NNT main story, not 16 years after epilogue. Tristan and Lancelot should be 15 years old now.

cyberdemon · 2021-03-02, 14:38

This group is a bit confusing. Are they with Arthur or against him? It said that they went rogue but they serve an “evil king” that looks like Arthur. Mordred maybe? They want to kill the 4 knights because they will lead Arthur to his death yet as stated before, they went rogue on Arthur...

My guess is that they went rogue but reorganized after the prophesy was made under a new king, mordred. Mordreds stated goal is to save his father from the 4 knights of the apocalypse when in reality he is using the former knights to overthrow his father. The four knights will join forces with Arthur after learning he wasn’t behind those knights but the ensuing fighting kills him. But not before they are blamed for a number of catastrophes actually caused by the black knights.

Or at least that is how the prophesy is supposed to go.

Diluc · 2021-03-02, 22:50

16 year is odd number when considering Percival born at year series end and Arthur Knights are not developed yet in that period.
It should be 18 or 20 year imho.

Kanon · 2021-03-03, 17:54

"A youth without a fixed appearance"

Yeah, that's totally King and Diane's child. And I'm still hopeful it'll be a girl who is using magic to change her appearance like her father used to.

I kinda thought Ironside deliberately let Percival live, guess not.

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

This group is a bit confusing. Are they with Arthur or against him? It said that they went rogue but they serve an “evil king” that looks like Arthur. Mordred maybe? They want to kill the 4 knights because they will lead Arthur to his death yet as stated before, they went rogue on Arthur...

Where did you see they went rogue? They're Arthur's knights.

Ramero · 2021-03-03, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Kanon

Where did you see they went rogue? They're Arthur's knights.

Ch 1 states that the Four Knights of Apocalypse will topple King Arthur, so we better need more clarification for that.

marvelB · 2021-03-03, 19:20

I think the confusion regarding to the knights' allegiance stems from Ironside's accusation against Balgis (Percy's grandpa) for betraying their "master" in the first chapter. Though personally I already figured that the "master" in question referred to more of a mentor figure among their band of holy knights, not the lord they're sworn to protect. We should get the full story behind Balgis' betrayal in due time, though.

And yeah, definitely a bit surprising that Ironside really meant to kill his kid. Guess he values the "greater good" over family, then. Ironically, Pellegarde (that seems to be the proper romanization of his name, apparently) cares more about Percy than his own dad does, heh. I gotta admit, he's still growing on me despite him sending that wolf monster to attack that village. Maybe rather than converting Percy to his side, he'll eventually join the hero side, instead.

Oh, and with the fox's name being revealed as Sin, it's looking like maybe he's related to Ban, possibly even being Ban himself? He is known as the Fox's Sin of Greed, after all.

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Originally Posted by Diluc

16 year is odd number when considering Percival born at year series end and Arthur Knights are not developed yet in that period.
It should be 18 or 20 year imho.

With so much emphasis placed on that prophecy, a timeskip is practically guaranteed at this point regardless, wouldn't you agree? So in that case it doesn't really matter that the main cast are currently being introduced as adolescents, IMO. Not when we've been heavily hinted as to what they will become.....

DragonOsman · 2021-03-04, 10:33

@Marvel: Wasn't the fox's name revealed to be Shin? Not Sin? I did also wonder if he might be Ban though.

But if that's Ban, what's he doing there in the shape of a fox and why is he not with Elaine? And how can he transform into a fox in the first place (assuming it's him) when he's a human who doesn't have that kind of power? Maybe Merlin's magic. Still need to wait and see if that's really Ban, though.

I'm still wondering if the Four Knights of the Apocalypse will really destroy the world or if the prophecy is lying about that part. I hope we get answers soon.

And yeah, I think Marvel's deduction about the knight's allegiance is good.

marvelB · 2021-03-09, 11:37

New chap:

Spoiler for ch. 7:

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Originally Posted by DragonOsman

@Marvel: Wasn't the fox's name revealed to be Shin? Not Sin? I did also wonder if he might be Ban though.

Yeah, it looks like Sin is the proper spelling. I'd just say that makes the potential connection to Ban all the stronger, though.

DragonOsman · 2021-03-09, 17:37

Thanks for the spoilers.

Wasn't Diane's friend Matrona? Dolores was the black-haired giant who joined the Seven Deadly Sins with the first Fairy King, right? Or it could be I don't know the giantess you're talking about.

And yeah, it really is Sin. Should've known; the Japanese people pronounce "S" with a "Sh" sound. I agree that it makes it kind of likely for it to be Ban.

cyberdemon · 2021-03-09, 17:45

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Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Thanks for the spoilers.

Wasn't Diane's friend Matrona? Dolores was the black-haired giant who joined the Seven Deadly Sins with the first Fairy King, right? Or it could be I don't know the giantess you're talking about.

And yeah, it really is Sin. Should've known; the Japanese people pronounce "S" with a "Sh" sound. I agree that it makes it kind of likely for it to be Ban.

Dolores was a friend of Dianne. Matrona was their leader. Matrona sent Dolores on a mission and she ended up dying.

DragonOsman · 2021-03-09, 17:48

Thanks for the info. What chapter is the Gaiden? I'll go and read it later.

It's probably not just a coincidence that this giantess nun has the same name as Dianne's deceased friend.

marvelB · 2021-03-11, 06:34

Well, having read the translated chapter, I'm definitely curious as whether or not this Dolores is the very same one from the gaiden chapter. Fact of the matter is, while Diane was told that she died, we never actually saw any proof of Dolores' demise. So it's very possible that she survived whatever hardships befell her, much like Matrona did. It's also curious that this particular giantess is shown praying to the goddess clan (as Sin points out, giants usually worship the earth). Wonder what's up with that....?

Kanon · 2021-03-11, 08:55

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Originally Posted by marvelB

Well, having read the translated chapter, I'm definitely curious as whether or not this Dolores is the very same one from the gaiden chapter. Fact of the matter is, while Diane was told that she died, we never actually saw any proof of Dolores' demise. So it's very possible that she survived whatever hardships befell her, much like Matrona did. It's also curious that this particular giantess is shown praying to the goddess clan (as Sin points out, giants usually worship the earth). Wonder what's up with that....?

Doesn't she look really young? She could be King and Diane's daughter, named after Diane's late friend. I don't remember the gaiden chapter so I don't know if they look alike or not.

cyberdemon · 2021-03-11, 09:35

I’m almost positive that is king and diannes child

Kanon · 2021-03-11, 19:12

Checked out the Diane gaiden chapter and her friend Dolores looked nothing like this one.

marvelB · 2021-03-16, 12:56

New week, new chapter:

Spoiler for ch. 8:

2021-02-23, 12:50	Link #21
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	New chap: Spoiler for ch. 5: Pelgard (Black Knight) isn't down yet! He blasts Percy's golems off of himself and advances menacingly towards the boy.... but suddenly, he gets stopped in his tracks by Donnie, who uses his magic to make the knight float in the air! Donnie tells Percy to run, but the latter is reluctant to do so. The knight soon releases himself from Donnie's spell by unleashing an explosive burst of flames! He then advances toward Percy again, only to be impeded this time by.... the red fox? The fox breaks some kind of ball with his tail, making Percy and Donnie vanish along with him! They end up in some creepy place, which Donnie describes is a "dragon's spine". Suddenly, the fox reveals that he can speak! Apparently, he tells Percy that he would have lost to the Black Knight, were the fox not to intervene. He also reveals that the knight is one of those under the service of the evil king (Arthur), who are trying to prevent a prophecy from coming to pass: The future rise of the Four Knights of the Apocalypse! The four knights hold the respective titles of Famine, Plague, War, and Death. And as it turns out, Percival is destined to become the future Death.....!!!!!!! Oh, and something else interesting to note: According to the chapter's Q&A, the sequel takes place *SIXTEEN YEARS* after NNT's end. Also, the human realm is still connected to the other non-human realms at this time. Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Edit: Well, a translation is out, though it's a rough one. So apparently the fox represents some rebel group? And addressing that last spread once more, it seems that Tristan is Plague, while Lancelot is War. So I guess Famine is the child of King and Diane? Needless to say, I'm really looking forward to when the rest of them show up in the story. BTW, I also really liked how Donnie tried to protect Percy from the Black Knight. I also find it all the more intriguing that the fox rescued him. I wonder if he'll receive special training alongside Percy? At least, I'm pretty sure we're going down the training route now that our protagonist is aware of his destiny.... Last edited by marvelB; 2021-02-23 at 17:09.

2021-02-24, 08:02	Link #22
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Translation by one of the usual group is out. Tristan looks absolutely awesome in that spread. I hope he will actually look like that, and this isn't a "depiction of the Four Knights may not be completely accurate" kind of picture. On the other hand, I'm disappointed the last one isn't a woman. As for Percival, I'm not losing hope yet. He needs to fill his grandpa's cape! __________________

2021-02-26, 12:26	Link #23
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Both the group that sent the fox and the group Percival's father and that black knight belong to oppose the Four Knights of the Apocalypse? Or did I misunderstand? And yeah, hopefully Percival will get growth spurt that lets him fill his grandpa's cape. And how come the Four Knights are prophesied to destroy the world? Aren't they supposed to be the heroes? Either they'll just destroy the world as the people in the story know it which is essentially the same as saving it, or that part of the prophecy is wrong because it was told by people who oppose the Four Knights. Edit: Could be that the fox meant that it was sent by a group that opposes the group of knights Percival's father and the black knight belong to. This seems likelier, otherwise the fox wouldn't try to help Percy. __________________ Last edited by DragonOsman; 2021-02-26 at 12:36.

2021-03-02, 12:20	Link #24
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	In this week's chapter: Spoiler for ch. 6: The Black Knight Pelgard enters what looks to be some otherworldly dimension (most likely created through the power of Chaos). There, he meets with the rest of Arthur's knights! Of course, Ironside is present, as well. Pelgard gives a report about Percival, and the knights further discuss the prophecy of the Four Knights of the Apocalypse. Currently, the four are all boys, and go by these descriptions: A youth with a golden magical aura, a youth who has both holy and demonic eyes, the third youth whose description is currently unknown, and finally, a youth with green, feather-shaped hair.... which is clearly Percival. This visibly upsets Ironside, who meets with Pelgard after the conference. The black knight feels it's not necessary to kill Percy as long as they get him to join their side, but Ironside gets angry and attacks him in response! He says that his son will destroy the world if allowed to live....!!!! ....But going back to Percy's group, the boy denies being responsible for a future apocalypse. After a little more pressing, the fox reveals where Ironside is currently residing: Camelot, the kingdom that was destroyed in the Second Holy War sixteen years ago!!! However, it won't be simple to reach the place. Plus, the fox wants to take them to the kingdom of Liones first. Percy is more than willing to make the journey, as long as he'll finally confront his father. As the group prepares to go, the fox finally reveals his name: Shin. He, Percy, and Donnie then set out for their 200-mile trip to Liones..... Hmm, Liones, eh? Guess that means Tristan will be the first to join Percy, then? Well, either way, it'll be nice to see Mel and Elizabeth again, at least. Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? Last edited by marvelB; 2021-03-02 at 12:31.

2021-03-02, 14:38	Link #26
cyberdemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	This group is a bit confusing. Are they with Arthur or against him? It said that they went rogue but they serve an “evil king” that looks like Arthur. Mordred maybe? They want to kill the 4 knights because they will lead Arthur to his death yet as stated before, they went rogue on Arthur... My guess is that they went rogue but reorganized after the prophesy was made under a new king, mordred. Mordreds stated goal is to save his father from the 4 knights of the apocalypse when in reality he is using the former knights to overthrow his father. The four knights will join forces with Arthur after learning he wasn’t behind those knights but the ensuing fighting kills him. But not before they are blamed for a number of catastrophes actually caused by the black knights. Or at least that is how the prophesy is supposed to go. __________________ Last edited by cyberdemon; 2021-03-02 at 14:52.

2021-03-02, 13:51	Link #25
AP24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	So it’s 16 years after the NNT main story, not 16 years after epilogue. Tristan and Lancelot should be 15 years old now.

2021-03-02, 22:50	Link #27
Diluc Darkhero of Monstadt Join Date: May 2015 Location: rich mansion with maids	16 year is odd number when considering Percival born at year series end and Arthur Knights are not developed yet in that period. It should be 18 or 20 year imho.

2021-03-04, 10:33	Link #31
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	@Marvel: Wasn't the fox's name revealed to be Shin? Not Sin? I did also wonder if he might be Ban though. But if that's Ban, what's he doing there in the shape of a fox and why is he not with Elaine? And how can he transform into a fox in the first place (assuming it's him) when he's a human who doesn't have that kind of power? Maybe Merlin's magic. Still need to wait and see if that's really Ban, though. I'm still wondering if the Four Knights of the Apocalypse will really destroy the world or if the prophecy is lying about that part. I hope we get answers soon. And yeah, I think Marvel's deduction about the knight's allegiance is good. __________________

2021-03-09, 17:37	Link #33
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Thanks for the spoilers. Wasn't Diane's friend Matrona? Dolores was the black-haired giant who joined the Seven Deadly Sins with the first Fairy King, right? Or it could be I don't know the giantess you're talking about. And yeah, it really is Sin. Should've known; the Japanese people pronounce "S" with a "Sh" sound. I agree that it makes it kind of likely for it to be Ban. __________________

2021-03-09, 17:48	Link #35
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Thanks for the info. What chapter is the Gaiden? I'll go and read it later. It's probably not just a coincidence that this giantess nun has the same name as Dianne's deceased friend. __________________

2021-03-11, 06:34	Link #36
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Well, having read the translated chapter, I'm definitely curious as whether or not this Dolores is the very same one from the gaiden chapter. Fact of the matter is, while Diane was told that she died, we never actually saw any proof of Dolores' demise. So it's very possible that she survived whatever hardships befell her, much like Matrona did. It's also curious that this particular giantess is shown praying to the goddess clan (as Sin points out, giants usually worship the earth). Wonder what's up with that....?

2021-03-11, 09:35	Link #38
cyberdemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	I’m almost positive that is king and diannes child __________________

2021-03-11, 19:12	Link #39
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Checked out the Diane gaiden chapter and her friend Dolores looked nothing like this one. __________________

2021-03-16, 12:56	Link #40
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	New week, new chapter: Spoiler for ch. 8: As Donnie's group searches for Percy, the boy in question wakes up in front of Nasciens.... who intends to experiment on him. Percy is upset that his helmet and cape were removed, but the herbalist points out they've safely been tucked away nearby.... and proceeds to inject the boy with another toxin. Oddly, it just seems to make Percy's hair grow bigger! Nasciens also reveals he has a strange habit of biting his lip whenever he gets excited, a habit that his sister often tried to discourage. Interestingly, when he mentions his sister, we cut to a closeup of Dolores... who, along with the rest of Donnie's group, are being chased by Nasciens' past test subjects in the valley. As the herbalist makes his next concoction, Percy breaks free from his restraints! He then grabs his cloak and helmet before confronting Nasciens..... who brings out a pair of blades, known respectively as Henbane and Belladonna. In the ensuing scuffle, the herbalist's latest drug gets knocked over, which Percy catches. Nasciens begs him to give it back, but Percy refuses, as he knows it'll just be tested on a future guinea pig..... so he volunteers to try it himself!!! Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?