Needless

[Soji]

Adan

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Yeah...but i dont think Gido would agree so easly no to mention we dont really know for what Adam project they need him. At least that you dont think they want to made AnN and Ac now.

[DarkSkiper]

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Hm considering he is the top researcher of the Adam project, guess something along the lines of either completing Adam Arclight or make Adam clones which are less powerful then the 2nd Christ and Adam Arclight (to be able to control them) or both, maybe the 666 see Arclight as a threat and have Gido secretly develop a means to control/kill Arclight.
Or they aim to make a Darth Vader scene whit Gido turning into a powerful Half needless telling Blade "I'M YOUR FATHER!"

[Homura7]

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They could just have modified his memories and turned him into an evildoer with the only task of obeying the orders they give him. They can do that, of course they can.

[DarkSkiper]

@Adan

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The Uchida clone is prove enough about that

[Soji]

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Yeah they can...we already see they can do something like this.Still I wonde what will be Saten next move now that Yamada awaka a needless . Because I'm really sure that he wil find out about this thank AA.

[Homura7]

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Saten first should retrieve Arca's body. I don't think he'll be happy to find that his partner was killed by the one whom he serves. Cmon, his most powerful Fourth Wave results from the strongest flames and that bastard eliminated the source of such power.

[Avvesione]

Originally Posted by Sayo A.

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Of course, what Arca said was deliberately ambiguous (on the author's part) to avoid giving too much away before Arclight turned up and decided to play amateur brain surgeon. But I don't think Arca knew about Cruz's fragment. I think her whole attitude towards him would have been different if she had known he was capable of such a display of power.

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I do wonder how much she knows about Cruz though since it seemed like she knew what stopped her during her failed attempt at killing Cruz. Too bad it will be a long time before we know what she knows.

Originally Posted by Soji

Adan

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Well true ,if we go with what AA do..still dont seem that yamada mind this wound at all . If something stop eve to heal Yamada I hope is AnN for some reason(or because is jealous/ possessive) I mean she does mark Yamada in the memory world

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You know, now that you mention that, might be worth rereading that scene since it could be connected to Cruz's current power. She did something to his leg which allowed him to pierce through the darkness and allow him to continue on his journey. And there was that specific hand drawing there, too. Could that mark on his leg be the birth of a Stigmata or something?

It might be a link, it might not be, but it's worth checking out again.

[Soji]

Originally Posted by Adan

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Saten first should retrieve Arca's body. I don't think he'll be happy to find that his partner was killed by the one whom he serves. Cmon, his most powerful Fourth Wave results from the strongest flames.

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That's true. even if they had some problem thanks what happen in simeon tower. I really think they where friend(?) . Still if he find out that yamada was there (thing pretty sure).Well this will be pretty interesting.

[Nvis]

Late to the party, can someone PM me? *wink*

[Skieth]

Welcome back Avvesione. Hope you enjoyed your vacation.

Originally Posted by Adan

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They could just have modified his memories and turned him into an evildoer with the only task of obeying the orders they give him. They can do that, of course they can.

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If Gido is working on the Adam project for Triple Six, rather then brainwashing him its possible they might have convinced him to work for them with perhaps the promise of bringing Kasumi back to life. Without any details of the accident that killed her, its just a guess, but maybe they still have some of her DNA.

Originally Posted by Soji

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That's true. even if they had some problem thanks what happen in simeon tower. I really think they where friend(?) . Still if he find out that yamada was there (thing pretty sure).Well this will be pretty interesting.

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As partners, I kind of suspect that Aruca told Saten all about Cruz, which may be why he shows such interest in him. He's really good at ferreting out secrets, and as he seems to have an agenda separate from that even of triple six, he may have been our suspected third party Aruca was working for. Can't wait to see what he's up to.
As much as I hate to say it though, I really don't see Aruca being brought back to life while Arclight is alive. He has her fragment, and possibly her stigmata, he really doesn't seem to need her anymore. If our theory about Simeon being able to brainwash people pans out, then I could see it as possible. Well that or Arclight dies and Saten takes over.

[Yaluk]

Originally Posted by Avvesione

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I do wonder how much she knows about Cruz though since it seemed like she knew what stopped her during her failed attempt at killing Cruz. Too bad it will be a long time before we know what she knows.

I always assumed that it was AA using Psychokinesis that stopped her in that last desperate attempt. Since she figured it was "him" and AA immediately appeared telling her to stand down.

[Soji]

Skieth

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Yeah ,this would make sense. It seem that the only one that can give Us/yamada some answer is Saten itself. I hope we see him soon now that Yamada do what he do. And Arca is death by AA hand.

Yaluk @ But AA dont have reason to save Yamada though. So was probally something/someone else. We just don't know what really happen that day.

[Yaluk]

@ Soji

I saw that scene as more of the cliche entrance of "Supervillain 101".

Basically the supervillain entering the fight yelling "Enough!!". Demanding all to stop and pay attention to him/her.


Didn't see it as him saving Cruz really, since he was fully intending to kill them all himself.
Just how I interpreted it.

[Soji]

^ Well I agree here.Just I find strange that he would stop aruka just to kill cruz and the other by himself. Now that I think about this...even during the figth him vs blade AA do some kind of attack toward yamada ...but not for kill.Then again that was probally how he is.

[DarkSkiper]

Arclight just has a God complex...
He thinks his a God so there shouldn't be anyone who can defeat him, even Blade is looked down upon because Arclight see him as only an incomplete clone.
The reason as to why he wanted to kill them all himself was probably to prove his claim being a superior God, and most likely he wanted to prove it to himself.

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Hopefully now that Yamada has a fragment he will chop that tall thin tree that Arclight is sitting on.

[Soji]

you know guys...now that i think something

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Yamda eyes remind me something...the eyes of death or something like this that both Shiki have...that kind of eyes make you understand the death and see the death of all thing even immortal . I dont think this is the case...still the eyes are really similar.

[DarkSkiper]

^

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Well if we think about it, since Yamada eyes change it could mean that his eyes are the key to his fragment.
It may enable him to see something that others can't or let him see for example bonds between atoms or to analyse others fragment and see their weak point and/or to copy other fragments.
It might be a hypnosis power, well the main point is that his eyes are the source or key to Yamada power, otherwise why make such an emphasis on his eyes?
Oh btw am I the only one who thinks that the one they saved was not Yamada, but Arclight? Cause it looked like Yamada was about to rip Arclight apart!

[Soji]

DarkSkiper

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That the eyes are the key of his fragment I totally agree with you. AA reaction + the change in yamada eyes(the first needless that to this from what I remember) is enough prove of that. And yeah I agree with you here....i mean probally he will save himself someway ...still from AA reaction until the other come make me wonder if he think that yamada can kill him O_o wich make me more wonder even more ...what hell is you're power cruz.

[surerman]

Originally Posted by Soji

DarkSkiper

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That the eyes are the key of his fragment I totally agree with you. AA reaction + the change in yamada eyes(the first needless that to this from what I remember) is enough prove of that. And yeah I agree with you here....i mean probally he will save himself someway ...still from AA reaction until the other come make me wonder if he think that yamada can kill him O_o wich make me more wonder even more ...what hell is you're power cruz.

Cruz: my power?, Mikuru beam!

Blade:

[Sayo A.]

Originally Posted by Yaluk

I always assumed that it was AA using Psychokinesis that stopped her in that last desperate attempt. Since she figured it was "him" and AA immediately appeared telling her to stand down.

Welcome to the thread, Yaluk. The rules are simple: You post your ideas,and everyone else has to disagree with them. First one to say something sensible loses.

Spoiler for something that just occurred to me:

Cruz isn't the only one whose eyes change when they use their power. Solva's do too.

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Yeah, that's a complete red herring. I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be just a change in facial expression to illustrate her split personality. But having said that, remember how Seth's eyes also changed when Uten stuck that spear in her? That could be significant... or not. Actually, I'm not really sure where I'm going with this...

Anyway, about Cruz. Looking at the chapter again, I noticed that we only see his left eye change - the right one isn't visible (in fact, his hair seems to be deliberately arranged so as to conceal it). I don't know if that's significant (would be nice to know exactly what Arclight saw there), but it got me thinking. What if that's a Stigmata in Cruz's eye? No one said they can't appear there...