(L) Kanojo, Okarishimasu

[stray]

Originally Posted by Kuroageha

If that ever happened I'm sure Reiji would have showed us as he usually does but this time he didn't.

He showed us Chizuru's tits I'm pretty sure you can fill in the gaps yourself.

I've seen a fair number of people who've entirely turned on Chorizo and/or stopped being able to relate to carrot top since the ghosting. Reiji probably knew it would be divisive and kept things curt; now we've got blatant fanservice so he can remind us how hot she is, if nothing else.

[Chiibi]

Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator

*Sigh*

Let me get this straight. They come back from the trip, 2 days have passed. Then ghosting for 3 months. Then they talked, and now there is more talk?! 9 chapters went down the drain for nothing apparently.

I never hated a main heroine as much I hate Chizuru. Why don't the author marry his creation for real instead of forcing her down on the readers? What's the name of the ex, the ribbon girl and the shy girl again? I forgot.

I don't hate Chizuru...not really but I DO agree this feels like the worst case of

"Author really really wants to bed the main love interest in the most obnoxiously obvious way possible type of writing"

since goddamn Twilight

talk about a series I hate

Now those of you who have heard of Twilght may only be familiar with the very boring, poorly made movies. Welp, if you had the very unfortunate experience of merely reading one chapter of the books, we are PAINSTAKINGLY reminded of how "amazing, godlike, and beautiful" the male (watch the quotes) "love" interest named Edward Cullen is.
Literally every two paragraphs.
I wish I was kidding.
It is the most eye-rolling, self-indulgent, blatantly character-worshipping, poorly written piece of shit literature I've ever had the disgust of reading.

It is mind-numbingly stupid.
It's even worse than than Miyajima-oops, I mean Kazuya simping over Chizuru....although not by much.

Oh uh their names are Mami, Ruka, and Sumi, respectively.

[Kuroageha]

Originally Posted by stray

we've got blatant fanservice so he can remind us how hot she is, if nothing else.

I don't think that worked well.

[Kuroageha]

Oh, and Reiji's new manga got sent to the hiatus limbo (despite he claimed he could do two mangas just fine)

Spoiler for Shiunji Family:

It's pretty lazy and isn't even true blood related plot so of course it denies the taboo topic so those looking for the forbidden feeling won't find any here and just move on.

When this got announcement of serialization many claimed Kanokari was going into it's final arc "soon" which I doubted because Kanokari actually sells a lot and this new series didn't even get a warm reception and due to the poor timing it had on release (the same month when "NTRblue Fantasy" happened) so people were pretty prejudiced against this.

TLDR Reiji fucked up more than once with this series and he didn't realize and now he doesn't seem to care.

[stray]

Oh wow that was quick... Shiunji Family just wasn't very good though. It has nothing really going for it aside from ecchi, either.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by Kuroageha

Oh, and Reiji's new manga got sent to the hiatus limbo (despite he claimed he could do two mangas just fine)

Spoiler for Shiunji Family:

It's pretty lazy and isn't even true blood related plot so of course it denies the taboo topic so those looking for the forbidden feeling won't find any here and just move on.

When this got announcement of serialization many claimed Kanokari was going into it's final arc "soon" which I doubted because Kanokari actually sells a lot and this new series didn't even get a warm reception and due to the poor timing it had on release (the same month when "NTRblue Fantasy" happened) so people were pretty prejudiced against this.

TLDR Reiji fucked up more than once with this series and he didn't realize and now he doesn't seem to care.

That ... more or less explained this:

https://vocesabianime.com/eng/chizur...d-says-author/

https://vocesabianime.com/eng/chizur...e-size-figure/

KanoKari looks set to became the One Piece of rom-com, it seems. Long-running, award-winning and inspirational.

[Chiibi]

Originally Posted by stray

Oh wow that was quick... Shiunji Family just wasn't very good though. It has nothing really going for it aside from ecchi, either.

Personally I liked the MC more than Kazuya....and the ships looked cute but maybe I'm the only one.

https://vocesabianime.com/eng/chizur...d-says-author/

:^D........

*bangs head against wall repetitively*

Somebody stop him....STOP, REJI FOR THE LOVE OF GOD....

[Kuroageha]

He's just baiting because he know that will have a lot of talk about his series which is having a second season soon

[AndrewR5D4]

Still don't understand Ruka's view here... He clearly doesn't want her around, so why does she refuse to leave? That part really never sat well with me, how Kazuya made it clear he didn't want to date her, and she simply decided his opinion didn't work for her. It might be his fault for not having a spine, but I'm not sure even bluntly telling Ruka their trial relationship was over, would've gotten her to leave peacefully.

I assume that issue with Mami will never be brought up again. Judging by that look she had, Chizuru's words may have resonated somewhat; making Mami realize just how screwed up it was to invest so much time in a boy SHE had dumped.

[WingedAccelerator]

We were through this several times.

Kazuya made a choice between Ruka and Chizuru, and not Ruka and nobody else. Ruka doesn't leave because Chizuru on paper is not a valid option and they never deny that she is just a rental girlfriend, end of story. Kazuya never says that if Chizuru rejects him, he would rather be alone and not date anyone else. Or he doesn't make it clear if that's how he feels.

Ruka got roped into the situation because of the two of them. How convenient would it be for them if she just leaves without any resistance, after she also covered for the cowards in the previous arc and gets fucking nothing for it, just Chizuru further doing a hypocrite action against her. Kazuya is generally spineless, but Chizuru is spineless when it comes to telling Ruka that she indeed developed feelings for Kazuya as a rental girlfriend, broke the rules multiple times to get closer to him purposely, and has no intention of letting Ruka have him. The trend is Chizuru always asking how things with Ruka, but if there is any development, let alone remember the condom incident, she shows her true colors and gets displeased, sad that her "client" might be taken away from her.

So Ruka is not going to give up till Chizuru faces her honestly, or Chizuru accepts Kazuya's confession and starts dating him for real. Because the stalling relies on Kazuya's feelings towards Chizuru being not mutual, so if Kazuya gets rejected, he always had Ruka who kept putting up with his shit, despite him deciding that she should be free because his oneitis for Chizuru is most likely not gonna change.

[Lex79]

Originally Posted by AndrewR5D4

Still don't understand Ruka's view here... He clearly doesn't want her around, so why does she refuse to leave? That part really never sat well with me, how Kazuya made it clear he didn't want to date her, and she simply decided his opinion didn't work for her. It might be his fault for not having a spine, but I'm not sure even bluntly telling Ruka their trial relationship was over, would've gotten her to leave peacefully.

I assume that issue with Mami will never be brought up again. Judging by that look she had, Chizuru's words may have resonated somewhat; making Mami realize just how screwed up it was to invest so much time in a boy SHE had dumped.

She is selfish. She doesn't care how Kazuya feels, she wants to be with him and that's the only thing that matters to her.

[WingedAccelerator]

Why didn't she throw Chizuru under the bus then, when she had the perfect opportunity? Heck, there were at least two moments in the manga, where she had the opportunity and didn't do it. The community just likes to blame Ruka for everything that halts the two unbearable protagonists getting together. The last time I checked Ruka was not the one that left hanging Kazuya for 3 months or asked for more time to think, which is fucking status quo again.

People talk about redemption with Ruka as if she was an antagonist in the story. Unlike that piece of shit Chizuru, she at least admits she is selfish. But leave it to the oversensitive community that can't handle selfish and clingy characters to frame every action of Ruka as doing something evil and refusing to give her even the smallest of credit when she helps Kazuya or tolerates Chizuru acting out of rental protocol.

[Lex79]

I'm failing to understand why you always bring Mizuhara when people talk about Ruka. Mizuhara being a terrible heroine and Ruka being a selfish bitch aren't mutually exclusive.
So, Ruka sometimes can act considerate towards others. She should do that more often, then maybe people will start to see her as a decent person.

[stray]

Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator

People talk about redemption with Ruka as if she was an antagonist in the story. Unlike that piece of shit Chizuru, she at least admits she is selfish. But leave it to the oversensitive community that can't handle selfish and clingy characters to frame every action of Ruka as doing something evil and refusing to give her even the smallest of credit when she helps Kazuya or tolerates Chizuru acting out of rental protocol.

The ones who self insert with Kazuya the most seem to have a need to make him out to be a victim rather than an asshole who is stringing along a high school girl. If Mami 'used' Kaz what Kaz has been doing to Ruka is probably worse but we don't actually see Kaz maintaining the relationship with Ruka - even though he clearly does.

[WingedAccelerator]

Originally Posted by Lex79

I'm failing to understand why you always bring Mizuhara when people talk about Ruka. Mizuhara being a terrible heroine and Ruka being a selfish bitch aren't mutually exclusive.
So, Ruka sometimes can act considerate towards others. She should do that more often, then maybe people will start to see her as a decent person.

Because you still pretend that you don't get why she is still in the story and why she is still a factor for the protagonists to consider. All because Chizuru was never honest with her, keeps bullshitting her, and just uses her as an excuse for her own passivity. Not to mention Chizuru is not honest with Kazuya either, just pulls mental gymnastics out of her ass.

If you want to continue with the usual that Kazuya asking for a breakup should have been enough to remove Ruka, please don't. Ruka remains till Chizuru accepts Kazuya or rejects him. Tiptoing around Kazuya is the very reason Ruka still didn't give up and didn't accept the breakup. It's on Chizuru. If she were to reject Kazuya (Not gonna happen), Ruka is the logical choice even if you hate it.

[Lex79]

The problem is, nothing you said justifies Ruka for acting like a selfish bitch to Kazuya. He and Mizuhara are terrible characters in their own way. Still, that doesn't make Ruka right.

[WingedAccelerator]

Incorrect. A rental girlfriend should know her boundaries. Chizuru clearly doesn't care, and she does it on purpose all the time, then comes out with the weak excuses, including a fat lie about Ruka's feelings. All it takes a yes or no for Kazuya from Chizuru, a definite yes or no, and it would be over. But Ruka is not gonna fold to Chizuru, because Chizuru is not a valid option on paper for rebound or real feelings. It's Kazuya's pipedream. But if she wants to be his girlfriend, she must admit her continous hypocrisy first, then accept his feelings.

The way I see it, Ruka would only be blamable, if Chizuru already said the guaranteed okay to Kazuya and is waiting for Kazuya to dump his previous girlfriend or affiliated girl with him. Instead things are still uncertain with Chizuru, but she manages to keep Kazuya's hopes up regularly with last minute "maybe"s. For all we know, she could still say in another 3 months that she did her research and she concluded that her feelings for him are not romantic. If this would be the case, would Ruka be a bitch sticking with Kazuya, expecting things to turn out this way, or she should have accepted after the first begging from Kazuya that he is going to make a fool out of himself and waste the next months of his life confessing to someone that never gonna accept it, and leave Kazuya forever?

Which reminds me again, why didn't Chizuru quit her job yet?

[AndrewR5D4]

Okay, but would Ruka leave peacefully; if by some miracle, those two morons ever reached a consensus on what they are to each other?

[WingedAccelerator]

If Chizuru quits being a rental and commits to Kazuya, then I see no problem why she wouldn't. Her biggest, recurring criticism against Kazuya choosing Chizuru over her would be gone. But the example works with anyone that is not prevented officially from real dating, doesn't do shady business, and already said okay to Kazuya dating her.

[Lex79]

Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator

Incorrect. A rental girlfriend should know her boundaries. Chizuru clearly doesn't care, and she does it on purpose all the time, then comes out with the weak excuses, including a fat lie about Ruka's feelings. All it takes a yes or no for Kazuya from Chizuru, a definite yes or no, and it would be over. But Ruka is not gonna fold to Chizuru, because Chizuru is not a valid option on paper for rebound or real feelings. It's Kazuya's pipedream. But if she wants to be his girlfriend, she must admit her continous hypocrisy first, then accept his feelings.

The way I see it, Ruka would only be blamable, if Chizuru already said the guaranteed okay to Kazuya and is waiting for Kazuya to dump his previous girlfriend or affiliated girl with him. Instead things are still uncertain with Chizuru, but she manages to keep Kazuya's hopes up regularly with last minute "maybe"s. For all we know, she could still say in another 3 months that she did her research and she concluded that her feelings for him are not romantic. If this would be the case, would Ruka be a bitch sticking with Kazuya, expecting things to turn out this way, or she should have accepted after the first begging from Kazuya that he is going to make a fool out of himself and waste the next months of his life confessing to someone that never gonna accept it, and leave Kazuya forever?

Which reminds me again, why didn't Chizuru quit her job yet?

The problem I have with Ruka is her forcing Kazuya in a relationship. Him being rejected by Mizuhara and ending up miserable wouldn't change anything in my eyes.


Mizuhara and her job has been addressed in the latest chapters, of course in the worst possible way.