To Aru Majutsu no Index - Anime Spoilers & Speculation (for novel readers only)

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by ACertainStark

Now that I think about it... they'll definitely be using an insert song for that scene then. Be it a slow Mami Kawada b-side or something from IKU. Which excites me.

I think IKU would be more appropiate for that moment, though in all honesty, they're both great choices.

And well, if a scene from those volumes deserves an insert song, it's that one. Maybe something super action-y for Accel vs. Kakine, but that's it.

[Miraluka]

I can find memes anywhere about Railgun S' last episode such as: "This episode send Touma to the hospital again" or "Each time a person watches Railgun last episode Kihara kill a puppy"

At least they're taking it on a fun way.

[Thatguy3331]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

I can find memes anywhere about Railgun S' last episode such as: "This episode send Touma to the hospital again" or "Each time a person watches Railgun last episode Kihara kill a puppy"

At least they're taking it on a fun way.

Really where? I haven't seen any of that...

[Inept Forum User]

Just wondering about something regarding the unanimated Index novels.

Supposing that the unanimated novels were adapted at a pace which would be considered reasonably satisfactory (ignoring the constraints of a season for now), how many episodes do you reckon would be required for each individual novel?

Also, how would this satisfactory pace compare to the paces we've seen already?

[ZerothBastion]

Originally Posted by Inept Forum User

Just wondering about something regarding the unanimated Index novels.

Supposing that the unanimated novels were adapted at a pace which would be considered reasonably satisfactory (ignoring the constraints of a season for now), how many episodes do you reckon would be required for each individual novel?

Also, how would this satisfactory pace compare to the paces we've seen already?

Probably 5-6 episodes per novel. Index Novel 1 was animated to 6 episodes and pretty much had everything from the light novel. Since the Toaru series is full of information, it needs atleast this much so that viewers who only watch the anime won't get lost

[Gray Servant]

That's a little extreme I think. The first novel had alot of initial setting information that had to be included to know what was going on. Volume 14 for example can probably be reasonably well done in just three episodes. First episode gets Touma to France, second episode deals with reaching Terra, third episode does the Terra fight.

[ACertainStark]

It will probably follow the standard 4 episodes with the 2-volume arcs (in Season 3's case 17/18) being 5-7 episodes long.

With less volumes to adapt, it should fare better.

[Inept Forum User]

I suppose there would mostly be a relatively similar density...

Another thing I've been wondering about is how some of these 'unexplainable' powers and beings would be portrayed (e.g. being invisible with only the after-effects visible, covered up or obscured through changing shots, use of cg to contrast with regular animation etc) and whether they'd manage to get that trait/feel across successfully.

What methods do you lot think they should or would use?

(I was wondering whether perhaps CG-Cell contrast could be used to illustrate the way Aiwass seemed to be or whether it would be insufficient)

[Chaos2Frozen]

Either a bright flash or an 'invisible' attack

[Inept Forum User]

Several times before now, it has been discussed who would be best suited to voicing certain characters who haven't yet been voiced yet, with some interesting suggestions.

Spoiler for Previous voice-speculation posts:

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Whether or not Aqua and Terra appear doesn't concern me much.

I want to know who's going to voice Fiamma! Please be Orihara Izaya! I'll sacrifice a goat and a cow if that's what it takes!

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Now that we're 4 volumes in to New Testament, has anybody given some thoughts on the VAs for the new characters (assuming JC staff continues) ?

Im guessing we all are on the same page when it comes to who should voice the American President

Any suggestions for Kuroyoru, Birdway, Saronia, Marian, Enshuu and Maria? Just for the records, Im fully expecting Ao Yuki for Birdway, and Yukari for Marian.

You know, THAT Yukari ?

Originally Posted by shmaster

I know the bets man to voice the president: Ebara Masashi.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

The voice of Alastor? Well sure it's doable, but it won't be popular demand

Maybe he could pass off as the Knight Leader.


Did you know he's also the voice of Solid Snake ?

Anyway I made that first post on my crappy 3G phone so I could check the VA's names, so once more, with feeling-

Kuroyoru - Taketatsu Ayana (Evil cat girl?)
Birdway - Aoi Yuki (Blond loli with 3 parts haughty and 1 part silly.)
Marian - Tamura Yukari (Blood-thirsty girl? Only one person to call.)
Othinus - Tange Sakura (One of the original mahou shoujo heh... You know, the Cardcaptor?)
Maria - Hikasa Youko (Tall, dark (hair) and bishoujo)


Also, the only VA in JC Staff's permanent roster that they haven't use yet is Horie Yui (Siesta, Minori, Alice etc), I'm super expecting her to voice Saiai.

Originally Posted by judasmartel

Say, FukuJun or Kamiya Hiroshi as Fridge?

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I initially wanted Tetsuya KAKIHARA as Kakine, and not just because of name aesthetics He has quite some experience voicing fierce, evilish characters.

But now I have a change of heart.

I want Yuuki Kaji to voice Kakine Hell he was already voicing Southvalley from Shana which is well outside his norm but similar enough with Kakine so we know he can do the job. Don't forget that Accelerator's VA also started out as soft characters.


Tabitha? Hmmm, I never thought of that... Yes... That could work!

Originally Posted by faiz blaster

Okay....

Incidentally, didn't Tamura Yukari got a minor role in the Railgun anime? (EDIT: judas beat me to it... )

And while we're on the matter of seiyuus, here is my own 5 cents on the subject.

Carissa - Kitamura Eri
Villian - Hayami Saori
Knight Leader - Midorikawa Hikaru
Sylvia - Tomatsu Haruka
Ollerus - Irino Miyu
Fiamma - Nakamura Yuichi
Misaka Takikabe - Ishizuka Unshou
Leivinia Birdway - Saito Chiwa
Kakine Teitoku - Ishida Akira

Originally Posted by leukrota

Maybe Sakamoto Maaya for Leivinia Birdway?

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Anyway, if there's just one guy, one request, it'll be for either Seki Tomokazu and Hiyama Nobuyuki to voice Gunha...

Indeed.

Originally Posted by judasmartel

Hmm... I think I'd rather have FukuJun as Kakine, if only for an epic Ham-to-Ham Combat with Nobuhiko Okamoto.

And I vote Might Guy for U.S. President. Fate/Zero Rider would be fine, too.

So, who will voice Kuro-nyan, then?

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Kitamura Eri is one of those VAs who can voice anything- she can be Innocent (Working - Yachiyo), Confident (Nisenmono - Karen), Serious (C3 - Kirika), Playful (Papaki - Miu), and Sexy (Mayo Chiki - Kanade).

If you're looking to bust some nutbladders, I would recommend her to voice WORST

Nakamura is good for Fiamma, but I'm betting on Miyano Mamoru. After all Fiamma sort off wants to become the new God, and Yagami Light sort of became the God of the new world for awhile...

Ollerus for some reason I'm channelling FukaJun through him, only Jun and Mamoru can do serious to silly and back again. And since I'm channelling Jun through Ollerus, I'm willing to settle for Miyuki Sawashiro (Durarara - Celty, Horizon - Masazumi)


Ah okay, she could work for Othinus as well.

I've been trying to compile a list of such characters in order to compare them and think about who would best fit who (and it's taken quite a while).

Spoiler for The list as it is at the moment:

Assigned to volume of first (voiced?) introduction (non-story chronology)

Main Novels

V14: Oyafune Suama, Saigo, Oyafune Monaka

V15: Management, Boy with goggles, Sunazara Chimitsu, Professor, Xochitl, Baba Yoshio, Yamate, Teshio Megumi, Saku Tatsuhiko, Tetsumou, Girl in the dress, Saraku, Kakine Teitoku, Hattori Hanzou

V16: Ushibuka, Kouyagi, Isahaya, Nomozaki, Tsushima, Fiamma of the Right

SS2: Jeans Shop Owner, Jeans Slasher, Balbina, Haratani Yabumi, Sogiita Gunha, Yokosuka, Misaka Tabigake, Ines, Sakashima Michibata, Ollerus, Silvia, Kuruwa, Kuyama Kihan, Tanaka, Gemstone Girl, Kumokawa Seria, Kaizumi Tsugutoshi, Stephanie Gorgeouspalace, George Kingdom

V17: Knight Leader, Sky Bus 365 Crew, Terrorist, Eiker Lugoni, Villian, Elizard, Rimea, Carissa, Lessar, Bayloupe, Floris, Lancis, Smartvery

V18: Rachel, Skogsfru

V19: Depart, Unnamed girl, Unnamed boy, Shiokishi, Unnamed high school student, Sugitani, Oyafune Monaka's secretary, Minobe, Tecpatl, Aiwass

V20: Ekalielya A. Pronskaya, Kameyama Ryuuta, Brassa P. Marhaisk, Digurv, Antseka S. Kfark, Maiden of Versailles, Elizalina, Bellagi (N/A?), Longhe, Vodyanoy, Glickin, Misaka Worst, Nikolai Tolstoy

V21: Sellick G. Kirnov, Archangel Gabriel, Pietro Yogdis

V22: Klaus R. Shiarutsky, ITEM liaison

NT1: Fremea Seivelun, Silvercross Alpha, Kuroyoru Umidori, Jousawa Michihiko

NT2: Beast Girl Heroine, Kumokawa Maria, Mjölnir

NT3: Roberto Katze, Cendrillon, Saronia A. Irivika, Roseline Krackhart, Edward Torke, Olay Blueshake, Nike Canox, Bax Silver, Pilot, Arc Daniels, Alfred Thirdman, Raymond Kalman, Unnamed GREMLIN member, Weck Lunasand, Harzak Lolas, Lindy Blueshake, Martin Flowers, Elute Lux (N/A?), Xiaolong Harvard (N/A?), Cinesic Evers, Marian Slingeneyer, Othinus

NT4: Shar Berylan, Saflee Opendays, Grecky Reletsman, Osad Flakehelm, Weissland Strainikov, Útgarða-Loki, Kihara Ransuu, Kihara Kagun, Oumi Shuri, Sakata, Asai, Yasu, Kihara Enshuu, Kihara Byouri, Rokudou Ryuuichi, Sigyn, Mistray Flakehelm (N/A?), Ayles Bigant, Kihara Yuiitsu

NT5: Fraulein Kreutune, Thor, Kakita, Momozawa, Yashiro, Anti-Skill members

NT6: Frenda imposter, Sumomo, Kurumi, Hakutou, Beetle 05

NT7: Misaki's proxy, Matsusada, Tsuchimikado Bishu, Fugan Ryuuzou, Azumi, Spider Queen, Anjou Haruka (N/A?), Kuromatsu Takao (N/A?), Imagawa Shiguma (N/A?), Rensa, Yakumi Hisako, Paper Bag Bunny Girl, Fusou Ayame, Aihana Etsu, Kihara Noukan

NT8: Misaki's proxies, Loki, Jörmungandr, Freyja, Hel, Fenrir

Note: Sisters excluded.

Side-Stories/Manga

SP: Leivinia Birdway, Patricia Birdway, Mark Space, Theodosia Electra, Richard Brave, Wyss Winered, Fleiss, Bisai Otome, Sangaku Youko

SSK: Ellasone, Miss Tour Guide, Seachel, Bishop, Red Flood Girl, Leasic, Slappar, Alfar, Vidar Shoes Woman, Orlentz Trice, Brunhild Eiktobel, Norse Cabal member, Ceillier Flatley

RM: Kirifu Megumi, Kouzaku Mitori, Dolly, Exterior Project Scientists

AM: Unnamed girl

RSS1: Beverly Seethrough, Olive Holiday, Tochtli, Flave, Over

RSS2: Setali S. Skinikia, Enirya G. Algonskaya, Infiltrators, Rioters, Caliche I. Niknosh, Peter Wellgo

RPSPSS: Driver, Hyoudou Maki, Kohina, Yoake Sayori, Sakasama Yuri

SSA: Freadia Strikers, Flack Anchors, Torquay Shadowmint, Arlands Darkstreet, Vase, Dodge, Pilot

How many characters are missing, in the wrong place or need to be removed?

And with more books having come out since last time, any new voice suggestions?

[Baron-Zara]

Okay, let's say we're optimistic and our dreams come true with a S3

How do u think they'll adapt it though?

I think adapting all OT in 2 cour would be a one way butchery ticket and I truly don't want that >.<

I could wish for a 3 cour but who'd listen to that wish

So what else can they do?

Tbh I'd love it if they can adapt

Vol14,15,16,17,18 and 19 in a 2 cour season. Leaving that EPIC moment when Touma was heading for Russia in the snow, Accel was with the dying LO and Hamazura heading there with Rikou as the last scene. Damn what a cliffhanger that would be :P

As for WWIII I'd actually love it if they could make a 3 part movie for that. Yeah, we'll have to wait for ever but it'll be the best possible animation budget they could possibly bring out

What do u guys think?

[Hiss13]

Originally Posted by Baron-Zara

Okay, let's say we're optimistic and our dreams come true with a S3

How do u think they'll adapt it though?

I think adapting all OT in 2 cour would be a one way butchery ticket and I truly don't want that >.<

I could wish for a 3 cour but who'd listen to that wish

So what else can they do?

Tbh I'd love it if they can adapt

Vol14,15,16,17,18 and 19 in a 2 cour season. Leaving that EPIC moment when Touma was heading for Russia in the snow, Accel was with the dying LO and Hamazura heading there with Rikou as the last scene. Damn what a cliffhanger that would be :P

As for WWIII I'd actually love it if they could make a 3 part movie for that. Yeah, we'll have to wait for ever but it'll be the best possible animation budget they could possibly bring out

What do u guys think?

I'm just going to re-hash what I said a couple of months back. Although...a 3-parter WWIII movie might not be a bad idea...It's definitely feasible...and would give a good arc the animation budget it deserves...

Originally Posted by Hiss13

1-Well-paced 2-cour seasons
Season 3-a 2 cour season covering Volumes 14-19
Season 4-a 2-cour season covering SS2 and Volumes 20-22
Season 5-a 2-cour season covering Norse Mythology, then NT1-4
EDIT (3/2014): Season 6: 2-cour covering NT5-10

2-Rushed WWIII and skipped SS
Season 3-a 2 cour season covering Volumes 14-19
Season 4-a 1-cour season covering Volumes 20-22
Season 5-a 2-cour season covering NT 1-6

3-Rushed Norse Mythology SS+WWIII
Season 3-A 2-cour season covering Volumes 14-18 and then SS2
Season 4-A 2-cour season covering Volume 19, Norse Mythology, and Volumes 20-22
Season 5-A 2-cour season covering NT 1-6

4-All my money, JC Staff
Season 3-A 4-cour season covering Volumes 14-19, then SS2, then Volumes 20-22
Season 4-A 2-cour season covering Norse Mythology and then NT 1-4
EDIT (3/2014): Season 5: 2-cour covering NT5-10

I prefer options 1 and 4.
We can't have any anime original arcs for Index. Ever.

[Baron-Zara]

Do the Norse Mythology and SS really have to be done in anime?

I don't really see them fitting well enough in between any of the arcs.

OVAs would be for the best imo.

Ur ideas are nice but they'd be even better without the SS2 and NM

[Miraluka]

An Ova series for Kanzaki would be a cool in between vol.22 and NT.

Itsuwa SS is fine but Styl Sp has a priority because it introduces Birdway.

[Baron-Zara]

True. I agree that they're important. Just not in the series itself ^^

OVAs would be much better for those kind

[Hiss13]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

An Ova series for Kanzaki would be a cool in between vol.22 and NT.

Itsuwa SS is fine but Styl Sp has a priority because it introduces Birdway.

I'm pretty sure Birdway was first introduced in the Kanzaki SS but the Stiyl SS and the Mark Space SS were the ones that introduced Golden Style Magic so they are fairly important.

[Miraluka]

No. SP came first and Birdway on Kanzaki SS was more a cameo than a proper introduction.

[dniv]

I don't want a season 3... I want a reboot that's twice as long in adapting all of the novels... That would be so much better... they could try to fix everything important that they left out...

If we do have to settle for season 3 (if we get that at all), then I think we need to go the route of:

Volumes 14-19... with no SS2 until fourth season, because that fits in with the WWIII arc...

The Aqua battle with Carissa is clearly the best stopping point... and they really need to give WWIII it's own movie/season whatever to actually justify it...

They need the Index SP volume that isn't really up for debate. That's the first volume where I really liked Birdway before NT 2 (other than the Volume 22 cameo...)

For season 3, the best thing as far as I'm concerned is how popular Mugino's VA got because of Kill la Kill (which was super epic by the way for the people who haven't seen it... it reminds me a bit of Index style... just anime original and therefore not quite as long. ) which should make for an amazing Battle Royale arc if they do it. RyukoMugino's VA will be amazing!!!

Finally, the fact that Mako's VA from Kill la Kill is Rikou (Takitsubo) just makes things infinitely better (and lol to the coincidence...) It'll just make things that much more epic for those of us who saw Kill la Kill.

I still find it hilarious that Senketsu's VA is Aleister Crowley.

Anyway, moving aside from Kill la Kill VA's...

If next season comes out eventually, I just worry about how they're going to do the Battle Royale Arc. Since it doesn't have Touma, and just Accelerator/Hamazura they're going to have to work hard to make it look relevant.

The other problem is that Kamachi is much better at transitions than the anime staff are, so they're going to have to work on that.

I hope they milk volumes 14-19 for what they're worth since there are so many good scenes there...

I wonder how they're going to try to make it work; it'll be interesting so see that's for sure...

[Baron-Zara]

Although Koshimizu Ami was already quite popular from her Holo role though :P

[Chaos2Frozen]

Realistically speaking if nothing changes, it's best to proceed with the assumption that the next Animation project, if any, would be the very last one.