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2014-08-16, 20:19 | Link #422 | |
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The time for his regrowth to take effect is literally only a few milliseconds, the oxygen supply wouldn't matter in this situation to the best of my knowledge. |
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2014-08-17, 04:08 | Link #423 |
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Destroy his head would obviously kill him, but from V13 spoilers he would die if he his heart is hit too, if you connect this to the sniper scene in V6 it makes sense. So his hear is also a weak point, but cut his head off would not kill him.
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2014-08-17, 08:46 | Link #425 | |
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In the spoilers, it said that the pain he was receiving from the attacks almost cause problems with his processing ability. Now, just imagine how much trouble he would have if his head or heart were to be wounded.
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I don't see why he would try to protect his heart alongside with his head if he didn't think it could kill him, the restoration speed is near instantaneous after all and he was tanking all the other attacks. |
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2014-08-17, 09:40 | Link #428 | |
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It clearly states that it was a processing ability problem. Tatsuya had to touch the P-Dolls to reconstruct the spell and was tanking the attacks so he could do this. Now, if he was to be hit on the heart, just imagine how much more pain he would feel. It's not a matter of wether Tatsuya will not die from a shot in the heart, the pain would interrupt his spells.
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2014-08-17, 10:23 | Link #429 | |
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About the heart,if he instantly dies from a fatal shot to the heart he dies.For head,it depends if it's a kill shot shot,he dies.Regrowth doesn't work on the dead.
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2014-08-17, 10:43 | Link #430 | |
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2014-08-17, 11:23 | Link #431 | |
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PS: I don't know about the head but Tatsuya surely would not die from a shot in the heart. Spoiler for Vol 6 Chapter 2:
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Even if you shoot Tatsuya's heart, his "Regrowth" will heal him before the "state of death" can even been established.
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2014-08-17, 11:56 | Link #432 | |
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I don't see how what you quote contradicted what I said. V13 spoilers indicated that getting hit at the heart was dangerous, same for the head(for obvious reasons). Tatsuya never got hit at the heart before and in V6 it mentioned that he avoided the fatal injury but still felt pain, it hints that it would have been fatal for him, it was written that he avoided that fatal attack and hit his lung. Then they talked about fatal attacks in general. I am not saying that I am 100%(even I find it odd that a hit on his heart would kill him) correct but by connecting the 2 it makes perfect sense. |
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2014-08-17, 19:08 | Link #433 | |
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2014-08-17, 21:42 | Link #434 | |
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"Even if the heart had already stopped, the brain shut down, the throat torn open, if that was the extent of their injuries then revival was still possible. Even an instantly fatal wound, as long as rebuilding the body and restarting the circulation of blood would have had even the faintest chance of resuscitating the person, his ‘Regrowth’ could be said to give life to the dead". A shot to the heart clearly isn't fatal for him... He would regenerate from it like any other attack. The problem is his tolerance to pain. Obviously normally fatal hits to the heart or brain would interfere with his casting and cognitive reasoning momentarily which is something that gives the enemy an opening, which is not acceptable mid combat. The reason he avoided the bullet in volume 6 is because he wanted to return fire straight away with magic, which meant he had to avoid the pain of the shot to the heart. Read carefully about "Regrowth could be said to give life to the dead". When it says fatal it means by a normal persons standards, Tatsuya will perhaps be dead for like 0.000001 ms before regrowth kicks in and revives him. |
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2014-08-18, 06:06 | Link #435 | ||
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Fatal attacks are not necessarily instant death for me, the people he saved were agonizing, they were not dead yet, their fatal injuries were killing him. Mist Dispersion on the whole body, Cocytus, Rupture, their are fatal attacks leading to death upon contact, true one hit kills(Cocytus kills the mind at least). He naturally would want to return fire with magic, that's the only thing he could do, he was attacked after all. The text says "even if he avoided a fatal attack, the blow still pierced his lung.", it means it was a fatal for him, that's how I interpret it here and after this there is Quote:
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2014-08-18, 07:03 | Link #436 | |
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We don't know the extent to which he can heal other people or the speed to which he can do so. The reason he can survive normally fatal blows himself is the speed of his regrowth that surpasses cognitive reasoning. When he uses it on other people clearly he needs his cognitive reasoning to think, to do so. In other words it's slower when casting on other people and they likely can't be brought back from instantly fatal attacks (Although it has never been stated to be impossible so who knows?). Yes it was fatal for him, if he got shot in the heart he would be dead for a tiny amount of time (Milliseconds) Before regrowth repaired him and kick started his circulation at a rate beyond cognitive reasoning. As for why he avoided hits to the heart Ophis clearly explained it above. It's because the pain of a hit to the heart would interfere with his magic. |
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It doe'snt make sense for Regrowth to be able to give life to instantly fatal attacks because once they are hit they are already dead. No way someone can be alive after getting hit by Mist Dispersion on the whole body, same for Rupture and Cocytus, the best he could do would be to restore the body to his former state but it would be a lifeless body. Quote:
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2014-08-18, 08:54 | Link #438 | |
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"Even if the heart had already stopped, the brain shut down, the throat torn open, if that was the extent of their injuries then revival was still possible. Even an instantly fatal wound, as long as rebuilding the body and restarting the circulation of blood would have had even the faintest chance of resuscitating the person, his ‘Regrowth’ could be said to give life to the dead. But once the state of death had been established, he was helpless." Even with his heart stopped or his body momentarily dead he can come back. People die momentarily around the world on a regular basis. Have you never heard of a case of a dead person being resuscitated? If not I suggest you go google some real world cases. In Tatsuya's case it is similar to this except at a speed that is beyond cognitive reasoning. His heart would near instantly restore and his blood circulation would restart within a few milliseconds. It's just that the few milliseconds that regrowth takes to activate isn't enough to establish a permanent state of death. You can call the pain interference BS all you want but apparently it's a outright stated fact in volume 13 so just accept it. |
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2014-08-19, 06:01 | Link #439 |
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Chiaki hates Tatsuya but Tatsuya couldn't less. He clean up the mess she was partially responsible. I'm really puzzled in how their relation is during and after the incident.
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2014-08-19, 09:15 | Link #440 |
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I am extremely annoyed with the way most people who know of his true identities treat him, the only one who is really wary of him is Maya, but for the rest..
From what I've read from vol13 I don't understand most of the action taken toward Tatsuya. Kazama's superior officer was so afraid of Maya even when all she was doing was talking to her on the phone, just because she's one of the strongest magicians in the world and daughter of a guy who could kill someone without being present, even though she must've known Maya's specialty lies in light magic rather than mental interference. First we have Fujiyabashi, I understand that she was in a difficult spot and had to obey her grandfather's orders, but come on, she's someone who knows of Tatsuya's abilities and personality first hand, did she really think she can just fool him and he wouldn't find out ? What if something went wrong and Miyuki got hurt, did she not think that maybe Tatsuya will slaughter her entire clan ? Kamaza is also a character that I hate, he only sees Tatsuya as a useful tool and in vol13 his argument is just retarded, "I am his superior so I don't have any reason to give him infos". Tatsuya doesn't care about his country or what happens to it, the only reason he joined the army is to gain more allies when he needed them, the army got the best strategic class magician in the entire universe, one of the strongest combat magicians in the world with abilities that no one can imitate and the best magic engineer there is who even designed their mobile suits and all Tatsuya wanted in return was for them to give him infos when he needs them and the likes, yet Kazama pulls a retarded excuse not to and doesn't even seem to care what would happen if Tatsuya finds out about this. Then you have Kudou who is also trying to toy with Tatsuya and make him fight his dolls to prove their combat prowess. To me it seems that the author is making almost every non fodder adult character in the series underestimate Tatsuya's intelligence and power.
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