Aldnoah.Zero - General Character Discussion - Martians

[CrowKenobi]

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[Thess]

Name: Rayet Areash.
Height: 158 cm.
Age: 16 years old.
Birthrate: August 24th.
Blood Type: A.

Name: Eddelrittuo.
Height: 132 cm.
Age: 12 years old.
Birthrate: May 23rd
Blood Type: A.

Name: Cruhteo.
Height: 187 cm.
Age: 37 years old.
Birthrate: March 26th.
Blood Type: A.

Name: Trillram
Height: 185 cm.
Age: 25 years old.
Birthrate: November 18th.
Blood Type: O.

Name: Rayregalia Vers Rayvers.
Height: 185 cm.
Age: 70 years old.
Birthrate: June 5th.
Blood Type: B.

Incomplete information:

Name: Saazbaum.
Height: 190 cm.
Age: 43 years old.
Birthrate: ?
Blood Type: ?

Name: Vlad.
Height: 182 cm.
Age: 44 years old.
Birthrate: ?
Blood Type: ?

Name: Femieanne.
Height: 173 cm.
Age: 28 years old.
Birthrate: ?
Blood Type: ?

[Irenesharda]

Interesting that Rayet is 16 and her father's been working this spy cell for 15 years. So, I'm guessing that Rayet was born on Mars and her mother died, and so her father took her with him as an infant to Earth during his job? Either that, or she lived on Vers and then joined her father later, when transport between Earth and Mars was reestablished.

Rayet seems to identify with being Martian though. So, either she grew up on Earth, but in total seclusion to just her Martian peers and was taught Martian culture by her dad. Or, like I said, she lived on Mars for a time, before joining her dad on Earth, later down the line.

[Thess]

I was surprised she was indeed 16 and not 15 as I had assumed she would be. Yes, that's exactly what I thought. She was born in Vers and then came to live on Earth with her father or perhaps she was trapped when Heavens Fall happened.

[Irenesharda]

You know, after watching this episode, I just got something I hadn't realized. Asseylum's father, Gil (I cannot remember his actual name), had to be pretty young at the time of his ascension and when he had her.
If Regalia didn't get the genetic code of the Aldnoah until he was on Mars, then in order to pass it to his son, his son couldn't have had been conceived yet. So, Gil was born probably in the early 80s/late 70s, so by 1997, he would have taken the throne while only in his late teens/early 20s, and he would have died pretty young.

It's known that that age range, teens are usually pretty hot blooded and are not completely mature yet, even though they think they are. Could him having taken the throne at so young, have led to how the war started?

[Funkatron]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

You know, after watching this episode, I just got something I hadn't realized. Asseylum's father, Gil (I cannot remember his actual name), had to be pretty young at the time of his ascension and when he had her.
If Regalia didn't get the genetic code of the Aldnoah until he was on Mars, then in order to pass it to his son, his son couldn't have had been conceived yet. So, Gil was born probably in the early 80s/late 70s, so by 1997, he would have taken the throne while only in his late teens/early 20s, and he would have died pretty young.

It's known that that age range, teens are usually pretty hot blooded and are not completely mature yet, even though they think they are. Could him having taken the throne at so young, have led to how the war started?

There have been many teen/prepubescent rulers in history. King Tut was age 9/10 when he took over Egypt and died when he was 18, for example.

[orion]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

You know, after watching this episode, I just got something I hadn't realized. Asseylum's father, Gil (I cannot remember his actual name), had to be pretty young at the time of his ascension and when he had her.
If Regalia didn't get the genetic code of the Aldnoah until he was on Mars, then in order to pass it to his son, his son couldn't have had been conceived yet. So, Gil was born probably in the early 80s/late 70s, so by 1997, he would have taken the throne while only in his late teens/early 20s, and he would have died pretty young.

It's known that that age range, teens are usually pretty hot blooded and are not completely mature yet, even though they think they are. Could him having taken the throne at so young, have led to how the war started?

I'm betting that it's a war over resources or Earth is about the get the same Aldnoah technology and Mars was trying to prevent it.

The King died on the battlefield which shouldn't have happened. Kings are usually well protected. I'm betting there's more to his death also.

The Princess could have been born via artificial insemination or artificial womb. The series never said that it was a normal conception. Asseylum is the first princess iirc which implies there is more than one.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by orion

I'm betting that it's a war over resources or Earth is about the get the same Aldnoah technology and Mars was trying to prevent it.

The King died on the battlefield which shouldn't have happened. Kings are usually well protected. I'm betting there's more to his death also.

The Princess could have been born via artificial insemination or artificial womb. The series never said that it was a normal conception. Asseylum is the first princess iirc which implies there is more than one.

The revealed material says she's the only living descendant of Ray. Yet at the same time it also says the contender to the throne hasn't been announced.

[orion]

Originally Posted by Thess

The revealed material says she's the only living descendant of Ray. Yet at the same time it also says the contender to the throne hasn't been announced.

"first" implies more than one. For all we know the second princess could be a little ball of cells not yet fully matured in the artificial womb or someone hasn't given birth yet to the next contender. Or Ray has a relative there with family and they are the contenders.

I think the King was assassinated.

[willyvereb]

Yeah, the king died during Heaven's Fall.
Assassination is possible or perhaps that was the first and during the war only successful military operation of Earth.
But if the former is then...
Gee, we do accuse Martians for blowing everything out of proportion but this thing definitely takes the cake.

[Irenesharda]

“A nation that latched onto an archaic feudal system reliant on the superscience of an ancient civilization called the Aldnoah. One where commoners are obsessed with proving them in battle to gain social standing and the nobility casually betray and grind them into the dirt.”

Rayet was able to sum up the Vers Empire in only a few sentences, and while I think she is wrong to continue to yell about hating Martians when she is not only one herself, but it part of the reason there is war now, I think this look at society of Mars should be a wake-up call to Asseylum.

With the way their society is, unless she is willing to work to change VERS as a whole, she won't be able to achieve the peace she wants. Without change, the most good she will see is people like Eddielrito and Cruhteo, who, while loyal to her and her goals, don't give a single care in regards to human life or the Terran world and society. Unless, that whole idea of superiority is taken care of, Martians will always see Terrans as dogs and treat them as such.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

“A nation that latched onto an archaic feudal system reliant on the superscience of an ancient civilization called the Aldnoah. One where commoners are obsessed with proving them in battle to gain social standing and the nobility casually betray and grind them into the dirt.”

Rayet was able to sum up the Vers Empire in only a few sentences, and while I think she is wrong to continue to yell about hating Martians when she is not only one herself, but it part of the reason there is war now, I think this look at society of Mars should be a wake-up call to Asseylum.

With the way their society is, unless she is willing to work to change VERS as a whole, she won't be able to achieve the peace she wants. Without change, the most good she will see is people like Eddielrito and Cruhteo, who, while loyal to her and her goals, don't give a single care in regards to human life or the Terran world and society. Unless, that whole idea of superiority is taken care of, Martians will always see Terrans as dogs and treat them as such.

With no options left Asseylum may have to destroy Martian society by destroying Aldnoah.

To achieve her dream of peace she'll have to destroy her grandfather's delusions of grandeur.

[Thess]

It strikes me as odd that these Counts and nobles who passes the rights with bloodline seem to be single. Saazbaum is in his early 40s and has no child or wife, doesn't he?

[Key Board]

are you implying that Aldnoah makes people sterile?
the Emperor had a child, though

or perhaps it's something that is enforced into society?

off topic, but somehow related
in StarWars Jedi are forced by their order to be celibate so that
1) they do not develop any attachments. Ie: No lovers/spouses
2) to not procreate and created a Jedi dynasty that might overthrow the government

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Key Board

are you implying that Aldnoah makes people sterile?
the Emperor had a child, though

or perhaps it's something that is enforced into society?

off topic, but somehow related
in StarWars Jedi are forced by their order to be celibate so that
1) they do not develop any attachments to their spouses
2) to not procreate and created a Jedi dynasty that might overthrow the government

No, I am wondering why aren't we getting information about their families, even in Archivez. I know they have a clan. Well, what do you know, about Saazbaum. I just noticed the director of the show hints why he might not have a wife in the script cover. I'm so slow, I should have checked out Komatsu's twitter sooner.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by Thess

It strikes me as odd that these Counts and nobles who passes the rights with bloodline seem to be single. Saazbaum is in his early 40s and has no child or wife, doesn't he?

I don't think the Aldnoah rights can be passed on through the knights' bloodlines. I think only the Emperor can do that (one of the things that make him and his line so "special"). I think the right of Aldnoah goes along with the title of "knight", which is not a hereditary title like "Count" is. So, while the counts' children would get their peerage title passed down to them, they would have to be knighted personally by the Emperor to get the right to Aldnoah.

As for the counts' families, well, we know they have families as said by Trillram, however, I'm guessing that it's just never really brought up in the show. Just as the Princess' mother has not even gotten a mention, and her father is barely in the supplemental material.

Their families probably live on their estates on Mars, so we never see them.

[Key Board]

http://i.imgur.com/MLJ7R5V.jpg

I don't know the exact source of this, but Crutheo has his own merchandise. Implications are?

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Key Board

http://i.imgur.com/MLJ7R5V.jpg

I don't know the exact source of this, but Crutheo has his own merchandise. Implications are?

He's popular and he's shipped with Slaine. I'm surprised you didn't posted this. Because Inaho's looking at Rayet while Slaine's looking at Asseylum.

[Irenesharda]

Originally Posted by Key Board

http://i.imgur.com/MLJ7R5V.jpg

I don't know the exact source of this, but Crutheo has his own merchandise. Implications are?

It does suggest that Cruhteo is a pretty important supporting character. It again supports the theory that he will return in some capacity.
Or...it could be that he's just a really popular character.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Irenesharda

It does suggest that Cruhteo is a pretty important supporting character. It again supports the theory that he will return in some capacity.
Or...it could be that he's just a really popular character.

There was Trillram merch too...