Kantai Collection ~Kancolle~ (Browser Game)

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by RapidPotential

I finished over the weekend, and post-event celebratory LSC gave me 2 maruyu out of 4 attempts, in a row too. Luck starts after I finish the event, why not? ._.

I didn't even bother this time.
The only ship I am missing is Musashi, and I rather do that when I'm close to cap and within a time frame where I can still recover to max before the event from now on.
still sour about last time where the system baited me with Taihou, making Musashi the last one I am missing.

[Sheba]

Hellcats confirmed

[AC-Phoenix]

Looks like she no longer has reserve magazines under her skirt and her color scheme will change back to measure 1.
Looks like she will feel less like a Mafia princess now

[Klashikari]

Sara has a conversion feature too as she has a dark blue cg.

[Ithekro]

The Blue Ghost comes.

[Klashikari]

Saratoga has been added to the LSC, and apparently, you can have a duplicate.

[Sheba]

The inviting hand and light smile made it perfect.

3rd carrier I kekkon

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[Estavali]

It seems that there's a new carrier CI that requires the executing carrier to have at least both dive and torp bombers equipped.

Spoiler for Taken from the Bahamut and NGA forums respectively:

Add-on: It seems that Sara's white Mk. II is the night-fighter carrier while her black Mk. II is the armored carrier (no night-fighting).

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Estavali

It seems that there's a new carrier CI that requires the executing carrier to have at least both dive and torp bombers equipped.

Spoiler for Taken from the Bahamut and NGA forums respectively:

Add-on: It seems that Sara's white Mk. II is the night-fighter carrier while her black Mk. II is the armored carrier (no night-fighting).

You sure its not that her Measure 1 form attacks with guns, while the measure 21 with planes? They both have Yasen colored planes and it makes little to no sense to restrict it to measure 1 oO

Edit: apparently Measure 1 can attack with all planes, while measure 21 can only attack with the special Yasen planes.

E2:
There are apparently also some real tough choices regarding equipment from quests...

e3: is it known whether the F5f-5 -N will be available via upgrades yet?

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by Estavali

It seems that there's a new carrier CI that requires the executing carrier to have at least both dive and torp bombers equipped.

Spoiler for Taken from the Bahamut and NGA forums respectively:

Finally. I've long demanded changes to the air mechanic to make dive bombers useful since everybody was running CVs with kanko only.

[AC-Phoenix]

The grand question is: Does it work against Installations?
Something tells me no but you can always hope...

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

You sure its not that her Measure 1 form attacks with guns, while the measure 21 with planes? They both have Yasen colored planes and it makes little to no sense to restrict it to measure 1 oO

Edit: apparently Measure 1 can attack with all planes, while measure 21 can only attack with the special Yasen planes.

E2:
There are apparently also some real tough choices regarding equipment from quests...

e3: is it known whether the F5f-5 -N will be available via upgrades yet?

From what I gathered in the NGA forums, Sara Mk. II can't do night battle with just normal planes either. The difference between the white and black Mk. IIs is that the white one doesn't need the NBO Aviation Personnel as well to activate CV night battles.

I haven't tested this out myself yet so do take my words with a pinch of salt.

On edit #3: Do you mean the F6F-5N? According to wikiwiki, nope.

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

The grand question is: Does it work against Installations?
Something tells me no but you can always hope...

I doubt so unless they change the rule about dive bombers not touching installations.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Estavali

From what I gathered in the NGA forums, Sara Mk. II can't do night battle with just normal planes either. The difference between the white and black Mk. IIs is that the white one doesn't need the NBO Aviation Personnel as well to activate CV night battles.

I haven't tested this out myself yet so do take my words with a pinch of salt.

On edit #3: Do you mean the F6F-5N? According to wikiwiki, nope.



I doubt so unless they change the rule about dive bombers not touching installations.

From what I read the Mod2 needs The aviation personell for everything but USN-Night planes.
If she has night planes she can apparently attack.

As for Installations: According to a wiki user she attacks with it during Night battles, he didn't see any during the day thouhg. And neither did I - I still got a few more runs on 5-5 though.
That being said I'm generally unimpressed with that cut in for 5-5; Never had so many retreats there before.

[Klashikari]

No. Mod 2 can't attack with just night planes. I tried it first hand.
Every CV need NBO and night battle planes for proper night battle attacks. Regular MKII just doesn't need the NBO, but still need night planes.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

No. Mod 2 can't attack with just night planes. I tried it first hand.
Every CV need NBO and night battle planes for proper night battle attacks. Regular MKII just doesn't need the NBO, but still need night planes.

That sucks then :/ Unless they will ever let us equip it in the expansion slot.

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Related thing since I'm starting with Sara's Quests: I choose the TBM for the and the Vaught as first rewards, but now I see that there is a second TBM:

Does it make much sense to have two tbms? I only got 2/3 New Aewrial armaments last event so I need to pick that one at least once.
Same question can be applied to the Regular night flight thing.
The Skilled one is a no brainer but what about the regular one?

Edit: Did they change the fighter recipe?
20/20/10/90 only gives me red and blue bombers all of a sudden oO

e2: loosinjg more Bauxite on getting the SHidenKai2 and 52 Zeros than I lost during the event lol

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Edit: Did they change the fighter recipe?
20/20/10/90 only gives me red and blue bombers all of a sudden oO

e2: loosinjg more Bauxite on getting the SHidenKai2 and 52 Zeros than I lost during the event lol

You will need Bauxite for radar as well unless you have 6 type13 air radar and 6 type 22 surface radar.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by ganbaru

You will need Bauxite for radar as well unless you have 6 type13 air radar and 6 type 22 surface radar.

Yeah Sara is one of the most expensive CVs if you want to fully upgrade her.

10K for her CVB + 16K for her planes, which doesn't include upgrade material and upgrade costs.

Not to mention the cancer that is 5-5.
I only managed to beat it because I randomly tried using a third CV instead of a BB and Zuikaku happened to Nuke the Boss Node Re. - Not to mention the damn submarine your OASW ships do 7 dmg against.

Next thing is whether it was even a good idea of mine to upgrade her to CVB to begin with.
Not only does she loose a bomber slot, but she also looses ~ 10 FP, while Shoukaku K2 (non CVB) has a lot more FP and better plane distribution.

Imho Saras CVB version might be a trap.
Unlike the normal Mk II, she isn't able to night battle without the night battle equipment, and unless we will ever be allowed to equip items such as SCAMP in an extension slot that means that she will loose her 13 plane slot.

i.e. if you want the CVB to night battle she will have the exact same number of planes during the night as the regular MK II has, while also loosing ~10FP.
Sadly I was at work and thought I HAD TO upgrade her during my break. The Planes around her kinda gave off the impression she could night Battle just as well as the regular MK II.

So the only potential advantage (as I can't test it) is imho that Mod II can night battle while having recieved major damage.

[Estavali]

One reason why the CVB may be preferred over the night fighter is that once medium damaged, the night fighter is just like any other unarmored CV. She'll be just as useless at night like a NBO-less CVB, and unlike the CVB, she can't contribute to day combat too. In other words, before we talk about night battles, we must talk about getting through day combat relatively unscathed first.

Another one is that for combined fleets, we can't put her in the escort fleet, which is the one doing the night battles. Put in another way, whether she can't night battle or not means nothing in a combined fleet, since she can only take part in the day combat phase. Once again, the CVB wins here due to her ability to fight with medium damage.

[Kakurin]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

So the only potential advantage (as I can't test it) is imho that Mod II can night battle while having recieved major damage.

No, the major advantage is that the CVB version can still attack at chūha, which is sort-of a deal-breaker right now with the true use of the night battle capability not yet discerned. If you take the hardest event maps as measurement for utility (like E7 of the recent summer event), these always induce a very high risk to deal significant damage to your kanmusu while you need every ounce of damage output. The higher FP and night battle capabilities do you no good if you can't attack in the first place. And as Estvali said, with one being unable to include CVs into the escort fleet it reduces the night battle capability of the carrier in a Combined Fleet setting.

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Not only does she loose a bomber slot, but she also looses ~ 10 FP, while Shoukaku K2 (non CVB) has a lot more FP and better plane distribution.

What are you even talking about?
Sara MKII: 32/24/18/6
Sara mod2: 37/24/19/13

Her mod2 form is a complete upgrate of every slots except the second one that doesn't change at all. If anything, mod2 has better performance in term of initial air strike, slot survivability and all bomber tactic.

10FP is only an issue when she is in chuuha. When she is higher than that, she doesn't have that much trouble to reach the day battle damage cap.