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Old 2017-09-15, 05:56   Link #20921
Klashikari
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Not only does she loose a bomber slot, but she also looses ~ 10 FP, while Shoukaku K2 (non CVB) has a lot more FP and better plane distribution.
What are you even talking about?
Sara MKII: 32/24/18/6
Sara mod2: 37/24/19/13

Her mod2 form is a complete upgrate of every slots except the second one that doesn't change at all. If anything, mod2 has better performance in term of initial air strike, slot survivability and all bomber tactic.

10FP is only an issue when she is in chuuha. When she is higher than that, she doesn't have that much trouble to reach the day battle damage cap.
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Old 2017-09-15, 11:41   Link #20922
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What are you even talking about?
Sara MKII: 32/24/18/6
Sara mod2: 37/24/19/13

Her mod2 form is a complete upgrate of every slots except the second one that doesn't change at all. If anything, mod2 has better performance in term of initial air strike, slot survivability and all bomber tactic.

10FP is only an issue when she is in chuuha. When she is higher than that, she doesn't have that much trouble to reach the day battle damage cap.
If you want Sara Mod II to Night battle you have to sacrifice the 13 Plane slot though.
So if you want her to night battle they will end up with the same total amount of planes.
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Old 2017-09-15, 13:19   Link #20923
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Then why even bother mentioning that "issue"? Planes slots is arguably not a problem at this point, unless you absolutely need more AA, while being unable to insure attack when in Chuuha. In that case, Sara MKII is barely better because that extra 6 slot plane doesn't really give any peculiar advantage whatsoever, except maybe axuliary planes or FCF.

And mentioning Shoukaku is even worse in that situation simply because Shoukaku would fare worse than Saratoga mod2 in her Kou modefor initial bombing if you equip her for night battle, and Regular Shoukaku kai ni barely have 1 extra plane slot compared to Sara mod2, and that's considering Shoukaku kai ni just have 5 extra FP but no armored property at all.

So no, even with Night battle equipments in mind, Sara mod2 isn't inferior to other CV with the same setup, far from it.
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Old 2017-09-15, 13:20   Link #20924
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@AC Phoenix CVB form is STILL more useful for Sara. You want to bring her to the boss node, in orange condition at worst. So she can still fight.

The meatball might be useful in those event maps where you are in single fleet and can bring CV/L/B while being confident in gaining AS. And are desperate enough to bring enough guns for the night battle at the boss.



As demonstrated, the meatball allow ALL carriers to attack at night.
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Old 2017-09-15, 13:43   Link #20925
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What's the meatball?
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Old 2017-09-15, 14:07   Link #20926
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Probably NBO.

When I have time, I will test night comp with Ark Royal. Her unique night battle attack with swordfish is pretty weak, but I'm curious if it can combine with the TBM and N fighter.
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Old 2017-09-15, 14:28   Link #20927
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What's the meatball?
Its the NBO device. I am merely using the navy slang.
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Old 2017-09-15, 14:41   Link #20928
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Probably NBO.

When I have time, I will test night comp with Ark Royal. Her unique night battle attack with swordfish is pretty weak, but I'm curious if it can combine with the TBM and N fighter.
From the wiki (posted by user Shinhwalee):
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/FileJrmLWYVYAAf2c1.png

one of those shows f3f-3, TBM 3D + Swordfish.
That being said the picture says Night battle put the cut in looks like its done during the day...
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Old 2017-09-16, 03:28   Link #20929
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Suzutsuki will make her debut! Likely in Fall event.



from the usual place

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1. Suzutsuki will be introduced. VA: Fujita Saki. Illustrator: Shizuma
2. A new British DD will be introduced. Illustrator: Konishi
3. A new PV of the arcade was shown. Taihou and Bisko will be introduced in Arcade. There will be an event for Arcade in Fall.
4. Saury event starting from next maintenance.
5. KC 2.0!!!! Browser version of KC will be switching to HTML5 in 2018 Spring.
6. Friend fleet will be introduced as one of the features of KC 2.0

Source: https://twitter.com/yossy214/status/908942494666076160
https://twitter.com/_kjwrnok/status/908944926678720512
https://twitter.com/suirann_scarlet/...47011365347328
http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=12452692&page=1
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Old 2017-09-16, 03:39   Link #20930
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So one more of the survivors of Operation Ten-Go will arrive to give Yukikaze mind comfort. Mind you the one that's had her bow blown off, but still made it home.

So the remaining member of that ill fated group would be Suzutsuki's sistership Fuyutsuki, who also survived the operation and war, though damaged.
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Old 2017-09-16, 04:24   Link #20931
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A pretty girl, she is.

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Old 2017-09-16, 05:25   Link #20932
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She looks serious. On the other hand she did get her bow blown off, but made it back home anyway.
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Old 2017-09-16, 06:06   Link #20933
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Updated kai ni chart with Saratoga

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Old 2017-09-16, 06:45   Link #20934
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First hint of the new Royal Navy destroyer:

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Old 2017-09-16, 07:13   Link #20935
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A pretty girl, she is.

Spoiler for Suzutsuki:
One of the things to look forward in a new Akizuki DD is how her Chou-Rensouhou would be like =3
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Old 2017-09-16, 10:25   Link #20936
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Is the translation of Saras 2100 line actually correct?
Combining that with the 2200 line it comes off as slightly ooc

Edit: got changed by now. She literally said 'lets do it', instead of asking her to go drinking together until a few hours ago lol
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Old 2017-09-16, 10:29   Link #20937
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Oh gawd my rsc is isnt event fully refill yet now Suzutsuki is being introduce ....fuck me and fishing is coming....ohh fawk... Been wasting my rsc to lvl Ark and Sara to lvl 99 this fall event will be a salty for me it seem.
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Old 2017-09-17, 12:10   Link #20938
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Since I can no longer ignore it due to Saras second quest...

Does anyone have an idea how to get past node C in 6-4?

I tried west first, which seems more reliable in getting to the boss, but can't actually beat it.

Then I saw some posts stating that
Ooyodo, 20.3. x2 + 2x WG
3 DD (Aka Ducky) a CAV and aBB can actually do it.

However every time I try that something in node C is shooting my ships down.
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Old 2017-09-17, 20:06   Link #20939
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I just reached the BP dilemma. I can K2 Sara or Zui, not both since just enough medals for one BP. On you opinion, who could be more useful in the meantime?
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Old 2017-09-18, 01:56   Link #20940
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I just reached the BP dilemma. I can K2 Sara or Zui, not both since just enough medals for one BP. On you opinion, who could be more useful in the meantime?
If you already have Shoukaku K2, then probably Sara.

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Related note to Zuikaku:
Has anyone tried whether the Iwamoto Flight counts as hidden night plane?
I know it doesn't have the specific icon, but if I remember that right Iwamoto was known for conducting night landings without needing a radar.
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