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Old 2007-02-22, 14:30   Link #461
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The things that Miyu said about Mikoto were sightly different, but still interesting. She calls her crystal princess ( suishou no hime ) and tells that Mikoto has power to materialize higher order matter type two. However, according to what Miyu said Mikoto was the first (as the prototype) and the last of those who accually could use this kind of powers.

Miyu could be easy the key which connects Hime and Otome. Why? Because she can jump between dimensions, just like she did while taking Arika and Mashiro to the Black Valley. Maybe that school which Miyu went to was just in another dimension. I think that's more probable than setting events from Hime before Otome.

But on the other hand, considering Mikoto as an original Hime would mean that she still maintains her memories from Hime dimension, and that's unlikely. So this Hime thing can be just fanservice as well.

About the child/slave case, I believe the child is just much stronger slave with some other kind of bond with it's master.
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Old 2007-02-24, 01:40   Link #462
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I think that childs are unique and have their own "personality" and "mind" while slaves are just puppets of slave lords and all of them are quite similar to each other. In addition, slave lord uses blood to summon his slave, and it's not needed for summoning a child. Also I don't think that the death of Gakutenou, for example, would cause Midori's death.
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Old 2007-02-24, 18:07   Link #463
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Haven't watched this in a while so can't remember but...

What was the conncection between Nina, Mashiro, and Arika again?

Nina was the true princess and Arika was the sky blue sapphire's daughter right?

Who was Mashiro? Random baby that was coincidentally abandoned and drifting in the river at the same time Wind Bloom got attacked?

In the first episode, who was the baby that the sky blue sapphire was carrying, Arika or Nina? If Nina, then when was Arika brought out of the kingdom and I assume the King is the father?
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Old 2007-02-24, 19:09   Link #464
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I know that My-Otome is pretty much a separate series to My-Hime, but is Otome able to be watched as a stand alone series without spoiling the end or major parts of My-Hime?
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Old 2007-02-24, 19:19   Link #465
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There is no risk in it : you won't spoil yourself, just enjoy the show. (the link is simply fanservice, nothing more.)
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Old 2007-02-24, 19:53   Link #466
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Ok, cool. Thanks Klashikari
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Old 2007-02-24, 23:32   Link #467
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Haven't watched this in a while so can't remember but...

What was the conncection between Nina, Mashiro, and Arika again?
Their connection was that they were all supposedly born on the same date (though with Mashiro, this might not be true, since she was brought in as the replacement for the real princess) and each was a possible candidate for being the "true" princess.

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Nina was the true princess and Arika was the sky blue sapphire's daughter right?
Yes. Of course it's pretty obvious in hindsight, as Arika is virtually a physical clone of her mother, except for her hair color.


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Who was Mashiro? Random baby that was coincidentally abandoned and drifting in the river at the same time Wind Bloom got attacked?
We don't know. It's been insinuated by Miyu that she has a connection to Fumi somehow, but since the Minister who orchestrated the coup and brought in Mashiro as the replacement for Nina died without revealing what the purpose of the coup was (or who Mashiro might be) it's up in the air at the moment. The OVA might answer this, or it might not. (Be nice if it did.)


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In the first episode, who was the baby that the sky blue sapphire was carrying, Arika or Nina? If Nina, then when was Arika brought out of the kingdom and I assume the King is the father?
Nina. It's revealed later on that Rena left Arika behind with one of the palace attendents while she went to try and get Nina to safety. Arika was luckily found by Miyu sometime afterwards, as the attendent she was left with died somehow in the attack. Miyu then took Arika to her grandmother, who raised her.

As for who Arika's father is, that's another mystery, but what little evidence there is suggests that it might be Rad/Reito, the Cyborg from Aswald. She is most definitely NOT the king's daughter, because the Harmonium will only respond fully to one who carries the blood of the Windbloom royal family (as it did for Nina) and Mikoto's shadow told Arika that she "wasn't enough" when she and Mashiro accidently stumbled onto it in episode 7.
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Old 2007-02-26, 17:09   Link #468
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Well hello there! For the first time.

Could someone tell me about Otome Zwei manga. Who is drawing it? Etc. etc.?
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Old 2007-02-27, 01:51   Link #469
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You mean the Mai-Otome manga? Zwei is the name of the OVAs.

Author is the same guy that did Mai-HiME, I assume he is also the artist but mangaupdates doesn't list it and the art does look slightly different from Mai-HiME but it could be due to his experience in manga drawing developing over the years.

http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1837
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Old 2007-02-27, 02:32   Link #470
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You mean the Mai-Otome manga? Zwei is the name of the OVAs.

Author is the same guy that did Mai-HiME, I assume he is also the artist but mangaupdates doesn't list it and the art does look slightly different from Mai-HiME but it could be due to his experience in manga drawing developing over the years.

http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1837
It seems you lack knowledge. There is a Mai-Otome Zwei manga that is released monthly in Champion RED, authored by a different person from the one who did the MH and MO manga. So far only a few chapters of it have been released and there are not scanlations.
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Old 2007-02-27, 13:27   Link #471
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It seems you lack knowledge. There is a Mai-Otome Zwei manga that is released monthly in Champion RED, authored by a different person from the one who did the MH and MO manga. So far only a few chapters of it have been released and there are not scanlations.
But seems that the plot follows anime way, not manga way, Mashiro is not trap anymore and drawstyle reminds porn doujinshi...
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Old 2007-02-27, 21:36   Link #472
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But seems that the plot follows anime way, not manga way, Mashiro is not trap anymore and drawstyle reminds porn doujinshi...
Well, you're half right. As of Chapter 3 of the Zwei manga, the manga's plot is going differently compared to the anime's plot.
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Old 2007-03-01, 12:05   Link #473
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Talking OMG Im so confused... I skipped OVA1 and other series... help needed.Possible spoiler

Again, possible spoiler, I just watched 2 episodes from Mai-ZHiME Zwei and I'm surprised to see Mai-HiME characters there and yet seeing Mai-Otome characters!! So before that, the easier questions so I know what to collect.

1) Mai-Otome TV series 1 has how many episodes in all? (Didn't finish it when it was running a year or two ago).
2) Was there a TV series 2 of Mai-Otome?
3) Mai-ZHiME Zwei is an OVA right? I read somewhere in this forum that there are 2 OVAs?
4) What's the title of the 2 OVAs then?
5) And if I understood it correctly, the OVAs are OVA of Otome not Mai-HiME right?


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Why is it the characters from Mai-HiME are present in the Zwei OVA? How come? Was the connection ever explained? Say manga?

Or the connection was never really established "officially"?
If so, then how are the theories going (I know, this is an age old discussion about the connection of MH and MZH), is the debate now in-favor that there is a connection between MH and MZH? Or is it still like when MZH first aired, majority don't believe that there's a connection?


Finally, is there a chronological order in watching the series and OVAs? I mean, there are OVAs that are completely different from the TV series, I want to avoid getting more confused

Thanks all, trying to catch up now that I have my own PC and internet at home (used to torrent from work )

Regards to all the fans
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Old 2007-03-01, 13:01   Link #474
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Again, possible spoiler, I just watched 2 episodes from Mai-ZHiME Zwei and I'm surprised to see Mai-HiME characters there and yet seeing Mai-Otome characters!! So before that, the easier questions so I know what to collect.

1) Mai-Otome TV series 1 has how many episodes in all? (Didn't finish it when it was running a year or two ago).
2) Was there a TV series 2 of Mai-Otome?
3) Mai-ZHiME Zwei is an OVA right? I read somewhere in this forum that there are 2 OVAs?
4) What's the title of the 2 OVAs then?
5) And if I understood it correctly, the OVAs are OVA of Otome not Mai-HiME right?


Now possible spoilers.........................









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Why is it the characters from Mai-HiME are present in the Zwei OVA? How come? Was the connection ever explained? Say manga?

Or the connection was never really established "officially"?
If so, then how are the theories going (I know, this is an age old discussion about the connection of MH and MZH), is the debate now in-favor that there is a connection between MH and MZH? Or is it still like when MZH first aired, majority don't believe that there's a connection?


Finally, is there a chronological order in watching the series and OVAs? I mean, there are OVAs that are completely different from the TV series, I want to avoid getting more confused

Thanks all, trying to catch up now that I have my own PC and internet at home (used to torrent from work )

Regards to all the fans
Should really finish Mai-Otome TV series first...

1. 26 episodes
2. No
3. Not sure what you're talking about, but Zwei is 4 episodes long I believe.
4. Read #3
5. Yes

Mai-Otome is a spinoff of Mai-HiME. The connection between the two is just the use of characters. Several of the returning characters have different personalities (and ages), so there isn't that much of a connection between the two series. Either can be watched without knowledge of the other. Like right now, I'm watching the R1 DVDs of Mai-HiME and I saw Mai-Otome first.

The Zwei OVA is a follow-up on Mai-Otome. However, the story of Mai-Otome TV ended in the series. Zwei seems to have a different story, but it's still a sequel. You'd need to finish the series to know what happens to characters like Nagi, Nina, Sergey (sp?), etc.
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Old 2007-03-01, 15:28   Link #475
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If so, then how are the theories going (I know, this is an age old discussion about the connection of MH and MZH), is the debate now in-favor that there is a connection between MH and MZH? Or is it still like when MZH first aired, majority don't believe that there's a connection?
Some still believe (like me), some still don't. The thing is that there is still new OVA with two upcoming episodes - some new facts have been stated and maybe some another shocking ones will come. Until Sunrise tell us everything they have to say, we can't be sure of anything.
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Old 2007-03-04, 22:32   Link #476
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Does anyone know the RAW release dates of the MO manga's first chapter vs that of the MO anime's first episode?
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Old 2007-03-07, 11:53   Link #477
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EP18, near the beginning, when the group is in the rose garden discussing :

Spoiler:
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Old 2007-03-07, 19:16   Link #478
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EP18, near the beginning, when the group is in the rose garden discussing :

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Well actually...

Spoiler:
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Old 2007-03-08, 02:56   Link #479
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The things that Miyu said about Mikoto were sightly different, but still interesting. She calls her crystal princess ( suishou no hime ) and tells that Mikoto has power to materialize higher order matter type two. However, according to what Miyu said Mikoto was the first (as the prototype) and the last of those who accually could use this kind of powers.

Miyu could be easy the key which connects Hime and Otome. Why? Because she can jump between dimensions, just like she did while taking Arika and Mashiro to the Black Valley. Maybe that school which Miyu went to was just in another dimension. I think that's more probable than setting events from Hime before Otome.
Doubtful since Nao and Natsuki managed to drive (via a vehicle) into the Black Valley.
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Old 2007-03-08, 03:12   Link #480
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Well actually...

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My mistake, its episode 17 when Mikoto, Yukino, Midori and Mai are in the rose garden past 9 minutes. Midori says there are 2 more hime that they dont know of yet.
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