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Old 2006-09-19, 06:08   Link #81
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@ PILMAN

To be brief, if the show is originally created with a high definition master, then yes, you should notice a substantial difference given the correct equipment. At the moment, anime looks more likely to go Blu-ray then HD-DVD, but I wouldn't place bets on it not appearing on both media. If you have a proper HDTV, and a decent BR/HD-DVD player, and the correct source material is there... yes, there'll be a difference.

Of course, you've got to be willing to drop a lot of money on it, less you want to watch BR/HD-DVD movies on a computer/drive/monitor combo.


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Old 2006-09-19, 12:13   Link #82
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To be brief, if the show is originally created with a high definition master, then yes, you should notice a substantial difference given the correct equipment. At the moment, anime looks more likely to go Blu-ray then HD-DVD, but I wouldn't place bets on it not appearing on both media. If you have a proper HDTV, and a decent BR/HD-DVD player, and the correct source material is there... yes, there'll be a difference.

Of course, you've got to be willing to drop a lot of money on it, less you want to watch BR/HD-DVD movies on a computer/drive/monitor combo.


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Would buying a bluray player for an edtv plasma be worth it or not really? I mean the HD channels look pretty crystal clear on my tv but i'm not sure if I should just stick to getting a bluray player for my computer instead.
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Old 2006-09-22, 09:27   Link #83
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preordered from Amazon for a total of ¥ 23,286
it could almost be expected that it would end up being just an upconversion or something stupid like that as its one of the first BD releases
anyways, I can set that aside for this

i had to reregister to post this due to inactivity >.>

with a little luck a truely remastered Blu-Ray or HD-DVD version will come out


and if you're curious, I'll be waiting til 2007 to get a player, as they are currently well overpriced. I bought my first 'set-top' DVD player for $99 and it turned out to be mod-friendly for region free <3 apex.
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Old 2006-09-23, 03:21   Link #84
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So ok what do I get in the box set? Because I'm thinking it's just the 12 eps.
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Old 2006-09-23, 08:58   Link #85
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An EDTV does a maximum of 480p or 576p, so on that kind of TV you wouldn't really benefit from a blu-ray version as opposed to a DVD version. Since the DVD already does 480i, you'd be getting much the same quality actually displayed. That said, if the blu-ray version does fix some of the problems the DVD version has, the picture quality would benefit as well - you just wouldn't get the full 'HD' experience. Seeing as a SD master is being used anyway, well...

That said though, do you prefer to watch tv/etc on your television, or on your computer? The picture will probably look a bit better on the computer, but then you've got to factor in the 'home entertainment' parts as well. Lounging on the couch in front of a 42" TV (or whatever) is often better then sitting in a chair in front of a 20" monitor. Oh, and do keep in mind that if you are planning on buying blu-ray titles in future, getting the blu-ray player for the TV would probably be a better option - especially if you might look at a TV upgrade in the not-too-distant future.

Your mileage may vary, of course. If you have a 24" widescreen LCD, and your computer is hooked up to a nice set of speakers with a comfy chair... get the blu-ray player. BUT, make sure you get one that has blu-ray playback software - I'm not sure it's available yet


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Old 2006-09-25, 00:45   Link #86
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An EDTV does a maximum of 480p or 576p, so on that kind of TV you wouldn't really benefit from a blu-ray version as opposed to a DVD version. Since the DVD already does 480i, you'd be getting much the same quality actually displayed. That said, if the blu-ray version does fix some of the problems the DVD version has, the picture quality would benefit as well - you just wouldn't get the full 'HD' experience. Seeing as a SD master is being used anyway, well...

That said though, do you prefer to watch tv/etc on your television, or on your computer? The picture will probably look a bit better on the computer, but then you've got to factor in the 'home entertainment' parts as well. Lounging on the couch in front of a 42" TV (or whatever) is often better then sitting in a chair in front of a 20" monitor. Oh, and do keep in mind that if you are planning on buying blu-ray titles in future, getting the blu-ray player for the TV would probably be a better option - especially if you might look at a TV upgrade in the not-too-distant future.

Your mileage may vary, of course. If you have a 24" widescreen LCD, and your computer is hooked up to a nice set of speakers with a comfy chair... get the blu-ray player. BUT, make sure you get one that has blu-ray playback software - I'm not sure it's available yet


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Hmm how much do 24" computer lcd's cost. I'm wondering if it'd even fit on my desk. I'm using a 19" at the moment. No plans to replace the Plasma display, only got it 3 years ago.
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Old 2006-09-25, 02:00   Link #87
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Hmm how much do 24" computer lcd's cost. I'm wondering if it'd even fit on my desk. I'm using a 19" at the moment. No plans to replace the Plasma display, only got it 3 years ago.
It will run you around $700-$1000.
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Old 2006-09-25, 02:10   Link #88
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So ok what do I get in the box set? Because I'm thinking it's just the 12 eps.
It's a bit more than that...the twelve episodes, the summer specials, an expanded version of AIR Memories (if I read correctly, longer cast interviews with improved audio and Japanese subtitles), an extended three-minute OP that's in true HD, an image gallery, and a new 5.1 remix in addition to the original stereo mix. I'm still disappointed that the video quality won't be as much of an improvement over the DVDs as I'd hoped for, but all the same -- I'd much rather regret buying this, than not buying it.
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Old 2006-09-25, 14:47   Link #89
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It's a bit more than that...the twelve episodes, the summer specials, an expanded version of AIR Memories (if I read correctly, longer cast interviews with improved audio and Japanese subtitles), an extended three-minute OP that's in true HD, an image gallery, and a new 5.1 remix in addition to the original stereo mix. I'm still disappointed that the video quality won't be as much of an improvement over the DVDs as I'd hoped for, but all the same -- I'd much rather regret buying this, than not buying it.
Yeah that's I thought as well! At least I can now say it's in my collection at last! Thanks for the info! Got an e-mail from amazon.co.jp ... : Delivery estimate: 2007/1/11 - 2007/1/18 Another delay?! What is going on?!

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Old 2006-12-21, 02:56   Link #90
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Just checked amazon.co.jp -- the delivery estimate for my copy is still 12/22/2006 - 12/26/2006, as it has been for a while, but the status has changed to "Shipping Soon / We are preparing these items for shipment and this portion of your order cannot be canceled or changed."

AIRy Christmas, everyone!
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Old 2006-12-21, 17:05   Link #91
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I think mine has left. Not too sure
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Old 2006-12-22, 02:03   Link #92
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I am planning on getting a 32" LCD TV to double up as my monitor. Why am I posting here? Because I plan to only watch AIR on it (no, seriousely ). I am looking at the Sharp, Sony, and JVC; I've done "some" research on them. Anyone have any good/bad experiences they want to share?
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Old 2006-12-23, 10:17   Link #93
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To anyone still looking at this thread:
The Blu-ray rips of the "long-version opening animation" is available from usual outlets. Maybe someone should sub it.
Super high quality: 1280 x 720 - too high for my screen at home (my 19" widescreen is at my college apartment)
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Old 2006-12-23, 18:11   Link #94
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Wow...that just redefined beautiful for me. Here are a few representative frames for those who might be curious:







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Old 2006-12-23, 19:39   Link #95
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Many of the scenes in the Hi-Def extended OP arn't in the show itself. Hints of a more faithful remake of AIR coming ?
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Old 2006-12-24, 01:33   Link #96
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Many of the scenes in the Hi-Def extended OP arn't in the show itself. Hints of a more faithful remake of AIR coming ?
That would be wonderful, but considering that KyoAni just did AIR in early 2005, and that they've got a very busy schedule ahead of them for some time, I don't think it's very likely. My guess is that the scenes in the extended OP are just the result of the animators having some fun doing things they didn't get to do when they originally did the series, but I don't think it's a sign of things to come.

I'd love to be proven wrong, though...
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If AIR HD is going to look like that consistently, I might consider buying the BR version.

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Old 2006-12-24, 06:17   Link #98
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This is the re-made opening in the BR re-release:

http://stage6.divx.com/members/91791/videos/1063717
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Old 2006-12-24, 19:27   Link #99
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Jesus Lord. All right. I hated AIR and probably always will, barring a blow to the head or electric shock or something. My expectations for it were huge and it didn't deliver on any level except the way it looked and the soundtrack.

It was the promo's fault. Clouds, angels, rich summer colors, and the ocean, plus a cool song. I thought "Great! This thing is made for me!" Then it was nothing but cutesy girls and sadness and trite dialogue. Disappointing. Clicked over here today to check out the wallpapers thread, looked at his one by chance, and saw another awesome promo for a show that I know sucks. This isn't fair.
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Old 2006-12-24, 20:21   Link #100
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Well... perhaps you should have asked a few general questions in regards to what Air was going to be about before you just picked it up and watched it? Your user title says that you hate bishoujo games; were you unaware that Air was based on a bishoujo game? Perhaps you should have bothered to find out in the first place?

And did you keep watching the show after the first episode? If so, and you hated it... sorry, but you do have only yourself to blame for that. Trite, but true.

As to the topic at hand... sigh, sadly I had to cancel my order for Air on blu-ray in the end, due to rather unforseeen problems involving a few bills and then the crazy month of cost that is December - a new pair of glasses, and paying for my GAMSAT test next year took a large chunk of my extra income, as did the whole Christmas shopping thing. That said - it's still available on Amazon.co.jp even now. And I'm in the process of downloading the OP rips, as they're really what I'd love to see right now. If I don't end up picking up the BR box in the next few months, I think I'll get the DVDs instead - saves me having to pick up a player - or, well... if the box is still there, my inherent weakness will still be there

Merry Christmas all!


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