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nonexistinghero · 2007-12-26, 20:27

I never had a wireless router before and i bought a netgear wireless g router. I made a wep key, is that enough for security? there's also this passphrase thing in the same section, what is that for?

Ledgem · 2007-12-26, 21:28

These days, WEP is not secure. Supposedly, WEP keys can be broken within a minute. If you want to be more secure, use WPA or WPA2. If going with WPA, you can choose either TKIP or AES - either should be fine, although I prefer AES (WPA2 only supports AES).

The passphrase is essentially just the password. For WEP, when you type out a password it is converted into computer (hex) code. WEP is a bit limited which is why you either have to choose a password that is five or 13 characters in length, because otherwise it doesn't convert well. With WPA, you can have a password of any character length. Just note that longer passwords that make use of letters and numbers/characters are more secure than shorter passwords that may just be a common word or name.

grey_moon · 2007-12-27, 00:41

The E in WEP stands for exposed :P

rem · 2007-12-27, 01:59

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Originally Posted by nonexistinghero

I never had a wireless router before and i bought a netgear wireless g router. I made a wep key, is that enough for security? there's also this passphrase thing in the same section, what is that for?

If you're stuck using only WEP (Windows XP SP2 and up support WPA, as does Mac OS X), you might be able to add a bit more security by configuring your router to only allow computers with a particular network card address to log into your network. You'll need to type the individual network card (MAC) addresses into your router and ban any other computers from accessing your network. That way, you'll have to provide both a password and have the correct hardware to log onto your network. MAC addresses can be spoofed, though, so this method isn't foolproof. But it is more secure than plain WEP.

grey_moon · 2007-12-27, 02:30

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Originally Posted by rem

If you're stuck using only WEP (Windows XP SP2 and up support WPA, as does Mac OS X), you might be able to add a bit more security by configuring your router to only allow computers with a particular network card address to log into your network. You'll need to type the individual network card (MAC) addresses into your router and ban any other computers from accessing your network. That way, you'll have to provide both a password and have the correct hardware to log onto your network. MAC addresses can be spoofed, though, so this method isn't foolproof. But it is more secure than plain WEP.

I can crack that in less then a few minutes. Google can link someone to the tools and steps really easy, don't need to be a leet hacker to break WEP and MAC filtering nowadays. The filter only works because of the the traffic is encrypted, once that is broken the rest tumble down real quickly.

Routers are dirt cheap, someone stealing your credit card details or downloading naughty stuff and getting you in trouble isn't.

nonexistinghero · 2007-12-27, 12:13

i tried using wpa, but i cant get my ds/psp to connect to it, what should i do?

Ledgem · 2007-12-27, 12:46

The DS (and likely the PSP as well) only support WEP, unfortunately. You have a few options. You can switch your network over to WEP whenever you want to use the DS/PSP and then switch it back when you're done, although that's a bit of a pain.

Nintendo sells a little USB module that will let your computer create a small WEP-secured wireless network. So basically, your computer would be connected to your router, and your DS/PSP would connect to your computer. If your computer has built-in wireless, you may not even need to buy Nintendo's adapter. I know for a fact that you can do this with Mac computers, and you should be able to do it with a Windows computer too. Basically, you create a network from your computer, secure it with WEP (or don't secure it at all), and connect your DS/PSP to that. The only problem with using your computer's built-in wireless is that the computer has to be connected to your router with an ethernet cable. You can't be connected to a wireless network and create your own wireless network from the same adapter at the same time.

nonexistinghero · 2007-12-27, 13:38

oh, ill just switch it whenever i play then, kind of stupid question, the router has to be connected to the modem and then thats connected to the computer? it wont work if its just the router?

Claies · 2007-12-27, 13:54

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Originally Posted by nonexistinghero

oh, ill just switch it whenever i play then, kind of stupid question, the router has to be connected to the modem and then thats connected to the computer? it wont work if its just the router?

That is correct.

I need to go read up on wireless security...stuff's coming up too fast lately.

grey_moon · 2007-12-27, 14:12

PSP supports WPA TKIP and AES

2007-12-26, 20:27	Link #1
nonexistinghero Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Wireless Router questions I never had a wireless router before and i bought a netgear wireless g router. I made a wep key, is that enough for security? there's also this passphrase thing in the same section, what is that for?

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Ledgem Love Yourself Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast USA Age: 38	These days, WEP is not secure. Supposedly, WEP keys can be broken within a minute. If you want to be more secure, use WPA or WPA2. If going with WPA, you can choose either TKIP or AES - either should be fine, although I prefer AES (WPA2 only supports AES). The passphrase is essentially just the password. For WEP, when you type out a password it is converted into computer (hex) code. WEP is a bit limited which is why you either have to choose a password that is five or 13 characters in length, because otherwise it doesn't convert well. With WPA, you can have a password of any character length. Just note that longer passwords that make use of letters and numbers/characters are more secure than shorter passwords that may just be a common word or name. __________________

2007-12-27, 00:41	Link #3
grey_moon Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!! Join Date: Dec 2004	The E in WEP stands for exposed :P __________________

2007-12-27, 12:46	Link #7
Ledgem Love Yourself Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Northeast USA Age: 38	The DS (and likely the PSP as well) only support WEP, unfortunately. You have a few options. You can switch your network over to WEP whenever you want to use the DS/PSP and then switch it back when you're done, although that's a bit of a pain. Nintendo sells a little USB module that will let your computer create a small WEP-secured wireless network. So basically, your computer would be connected to your router, and your DS/PSP would connect to your computer. If your computer has built-in wireless, you may not even need to buy Nintendo's adapter. I know for a fact that you can do this with Mac computers, and you should be able to do it with a Windows computer too. Basically, you create a network from your computer, secure it with WEP (or don't secure it at all), and connect your DS/PSP to that. The only problem with using your computer's built-in wireless is that the computer has to be connected to your router with an ethernet cable. You can't be connected to a wireless network and create your own wireless network from the same adapter at the same time. __________________

2007-12-27, 14:12	Link #10
grey_moon Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!! Join Date: Dec 2004	PSP supports WPA TKIP and AES __________________

2007-12-27, 12:13	Link #6
nonexistinghero Member Join Date: Jan 2006	i tried using wpa, but i cant get my ds/psp to connect to it, what should i do?

2007-12-27, 13:38	Link #8
nonexistinghero Member Join Date: Jan 2006	oh, ill just switch it whenever i play then, kind of stupid question, the router has to be connected to the modem and then thats connected to the computer? it wont work if its just the router?