2010-12-19, 22:06 | Link #1641 | |
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2010-12-19, 22:29 | Link #1644 | |
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Sweden is successful. I'm not sure about Germany, but I heard they are doing well. Italy may need to improve, but people celebrate at nights and sleep in days. I wouldn't be quick to critisize them when ours is tremedously failing. They have some systems that actually work such as the medical system. Here: People are working themselves to Death. No retirement. No home. Family Break-ups Europe: There economy may have went down too, but they are not complaining as much. Less homocide rate too. Japan: We can learn a few things from them that can improve our culture.
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2010-12-19, 22:31 | Link #1645 |
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I always consider Germany as the exception. After all, they're the ones having one of the most unbalanced trade balances around.
And as for comparing Japan: Japan still works more than the US. It isn't about whether you have more holidays or not. It's about productivity and management of time. |
2010-12-25, 23:03 | Link #1646 | |||
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2010-12-26, 04:33 | Link #1647 |
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It's sad, I know. But there's a major difference between Japan and Korea when it comes to why women don't want to have babies.
Japan: What's the use of marrying good-for-nothing men when you can live comfortably by yourself? After all, in the current world of herbivore men, it's likely that your husband is the one going to rely on your income. Therefore, be single and happy. Korea: Why let go of your career by having babies in a highly conservative society where it's nearly mandatory for you to quit once you get pregnant? Never mind all the money that's needed to get your children the best education possible. It's better if you don't sink your life and money in children and just enjoy your life with your husband, going on to live a better retirement. The selfishness of people tend to make me angry, really. At least I know I wouldn't be one of the kidless girls. |
2010-12-26, 06:13 | Link #1649 | |
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But then, you're talking to a person who loves children and plans to have four. |
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2010-12-26, 13:00 | Link #1651 | |
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careers always have an end it's called retirement dna, and genes will gone on mixing :/ |
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2010-12-26, 17:46 | Link #1652 | |
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Not illogical. Since people can't retire in this day and age careers can't end. Some people will work until they die unless they get medically terminated. Besides how can anybody have kids when they retire except through adoption?
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2010-12-27, 07:57 | Link #1653 | ||
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2010-12-27, 09:40 | Link #1654 | |
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Imagine this, hundreds of years ago, almost everyone worked on agriculture, because a farmer could, if not unlucky, produce only a little more than what he needed for himself. However, when agriculture evolved, in order to feed the whole population, less farmers became necessary, many farmers lost their jobs and eventually got other professions. These professions were simply not viable before. Sadly, humans beings are willing to work about 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, for about 60 years. Give or take, no technology will change that a whole lot. |
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2010-12-27, 11:54 | Link #1655 | |||
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I'm out of school with no girl friend, but have a job. >_> 8 of the people I knew in school all already having kids. of course I kids too, but I'd rather have a house first and stable place with a wife. hell some of them aren't even done with school yet, and aregoing to collage. we can't exactly say that since there are famous people over 40 who are having children, right now ( Mariah Carey, pretty sure she's 40) they're might be age, where they can't have kids, but I see that's highly impractical for a human. it's all about spreading their genes on. Quote:
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about the farmers less farmers meant cheaper food, but I can't think what good that really did. Inflation just took that away in the end :/ |
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2010-12-27, 12:31 | Link #1656 |
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You can boil Japan's issues (and to some extent other asian countries) to this:
1) corporate policy and culture that are supremely unfriendly to family life, male or female. You'd think the nationalism would override the "work to death" bullshit. 2) A quiet feminism that allowed women into the workplace (though with low ceilings) .. .but the guys are largely "not on the same page" about sharing family duties. 3) The ridiculous expectation deriving from "1" and "2" that women quit when they have kids. The corporations have taken job security away (following anti-community business concepts from the US) -- so two income families are a basic requirement now. 4) Responses of the absurd: a) Crusty bastards who want to pretend its still "the old days" in regard to women. b) Herby males who simply run away and hide into 2-D world. c) A small fraction of males who are actually adapting to the new situation (yay for them). d) The growing faction of women who just say "go to hell" rather than work on the problems of "a" and "b" (or find someone from the "c" response). Its kind of sad to watch because it really is fixable but for an abundance of intransigence.
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2010-12-27, 12:44 | Link #1657 |
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The Confucian ethic card comes into play here. Most reasons above, with the exception of women's status and rank in the labor force, can also be applied to South Korea and Taiwan.
The only other country witb such drastically low birth rates, Singapore, suffers from another Confucian-related idea. But unlike the other nations, whose problem is women's status, Singapore people are sandwiched - caring for both parents and children.
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2010-12-27, 17:02 | Link #1658 | |||
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Vexx pretty much summed up some of the problems we all face around the world I would emphasize the classes, corruption, and how people blind for people not to see these problems. Quote:
Being pregnant at 40 years old puts both the mother and baby at risk for many complications. There is a 1/100 chance of the child having Down Syndrome and usually down syndrome can associate itself with many other problems such as heart conditions and spinal cord seperation (reason why they can play contact sports). If a person is pregnant at age 40 there is a 25% chance of miscarriage. Those are just the few problems being pregnant later in life. A rich person can afford better medical and fertility treatment compared to us average folk. Quote:
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2010-12-27, 18:40 | Link #1659 | |
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You've mentioned before how most anime romances never seem to mention the characters' career goals - I imagine this is in large part because its an extremely touchy subject for many.
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2010-12-27, 21:02 | Link #1660 | |
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I don't mind doing household chores, but to a mom who had spent her youth as a maid in households, your standards are never there, and you get an earful for your troubles.
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