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2015-04-24, 01:19 | Link #36364 | |
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LOL More like the Age of Misogynists.
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2015-04-24, 06:50 | Link #36365 |
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Hostage locations difficult to track - and may be getting harder
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0NF0B320150424 EU migrant search and rescue mission: Seven patrol boats, two planes, one helicopter http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debat...ne-helicopter/ Comcast plans to drop Time Warner Cable merger -source http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0NE2D220150424
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2015-04-24, 08:15 | Link #36366 | |
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A horrible choice of words from those actors, but that's the reason why it's a constant fight against misogyny. Many people who partake in it, don't even realize it. It's so ingrained in culture that no one really stops to wonder why a character like Iron Man gets a pass, but a character like Black Widow is called a slut.
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2015-04-24, 19:42 | Link #36368 |
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Blood boiling? No, but very pissed.
Pissed at those frat boys for what they did, but also pissed at FOX News for trying to inflate this news. Yes what those morons did was more than wrong, but trying to equal the action of some drunks idiots to what happened after the Vietnam war is just wrong.
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2015-04-24, 22:04 | Link #36369 | |
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2015-04-25, 01:00 | Link #36370 | |
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Devastating Nepal earthquake kills hundreds, triggers deadly Everest avalanche
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0NG07B20150425 FEC decision may allow more foreign money in U.S. votes, critics say http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0NF1V420150424
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2015-04-25, 11:18 | Link #36373 | |
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I try to stay away from the internet outrages of the week, but no matter how it is spun, no good comes from the comments they made.
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2015-04-25, 11:52 | Link #36374 | |
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By that definition, most things we read or watch would be full of misogyny/misandry/racism/insert-whatever-ism here. |
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2015-04-25, 11:57 | Link #36375 | |
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If I was there, I'd make sure I record everything and get every one of them expelled.
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That being said, if there were Vietnam vets there, the frat boy's action will more than remind them of the way they were treated. |
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2015-04-25, 14:09 | Link #36376 | |
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"Playboy" or "stud" have different connotations from "slut" or "whore". Don't pretend it isn't so. Now, it's possible it isn't, in fact, sexist. Just dig up the interview where they called Iron Man a whore. Or James Bond - another spy who uses his charm to get what he wants. |
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2015-04-25, 15:10 | Link #36377 | |
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"She's marketed like a sexpot. It was so noticeable in the first movie's marketing that people spoke up about it, and created things like the Hawkeye Initiative." At least, that's the only thing I can think that he was referring to as his explanation. To be fair, I'm just worn out on these kind of arguments. Seems like everyone these days are hypersensitive to be point of ridiculousness on everything. IMO the exaggerated "THIS OFFENDS ME!!!" mentality do more harm for the cause than good. Hell, there's just this thread on the FF14 forum where some people are losing their minds over some small variances for a couple armor sets between male/female versions, with lines like these thrown about: "Why should what men, usually straight white cis men, want matter?" "Once SE starts treating AFs literally exactly unisex, with no disparities between the genders other than perhaps females having a bit more form-fitting gear, then I'll stop being annoyed with them. Until then, I'm going to be annoyed by the sexist artistic choices for some of the AFs all I please." all over nothing more than a simple exposed stomach on the female dragoon AF, nevermind the hilarious irony of "EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE, UNLESS YOU DISAGREE WITH WHAT I LIKE, IN WHICH CASE GO DIE IN A FIRE!!!" mentality on display here. It's pretty much this: http://i.imgur.com/JEWt2Q7.jpg. Perspective is something that seems to have become a lost art. A small difference in a piece of armor makes the game sexist, a crude joke against a fictional female character is now misogyny (but somehow totally ok if it's directed at a man). I simply cannot imagine what goes on in the minds of people like that, I would be too busy being offended by everything to actually have a life. Last edited by kyp275; 2015-04-25 at 15:38. |
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"It's so ingrained in culture that no one really stops to wonder why a character like Iron Man gets a pass, but a character like Black Widow is called a slut." Basically, there's a higher sex standard for women to uphold than men. "Playboy's gonna be playboy, but whore is disgusting !" Quote:
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2015-04-25, 16:03 | Link #36379 | |
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It's misogyny because of the double standard, which is what Vallen and Ahn understood as my point. No one jokes about Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne being a playboy, but Black Widow is "jokingly" referred to as a slut and a whore because of her relationships? Does this not seem like an incredibly stupid thing to say or joke about, when it's not even true at all? Yeah, it's a fictional character, but it's still a stupid comment and it should be called out for what it is. As I said, shit like this is so deeply rooted in society that no one really stops to think about what it really means to say things like that. A slut implies a woman who will sleep around with anyone, an easy lay. A whore implies a woman who will sleep with anyone if they pay her enough. It's telling enough that there really isn't a male word for these concepts. It's telling enough that people consider those words casual enough to use as a joke. I know how the outrage machine works, and yeah, I won't deny that people go overboard over things that aren't really a huge deal, but at the root of many of those outrages is something that really is an issue and it is enough of a thing to make people want to talk about it. Using your armor complaint thread as an example, maybe that particular armor isn't that bad (I have no idea since I don't play FF14), but RPG armor is infamous for giving men practical armor and giving women sexy armor. Heck this is extremely common even in anime. In the end, creators can make whatever they want. Is it misogyny? It's not intended to be offensive, but it is a result of a society where fictional characters in many instances are designed mainly for men. To not recognize that, and not see why people argue about it and try to discover some new "happy middle ground" between genders, is more lacking in perspective than some idiot feminist or men's rights activist tossing around buzzwords and finding something new to be offended about every day. Trust me, I get as tired of that schtick as you do. But I'm not going to pretend that there isn't something to it, either. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
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