World Of Warcraft Discussion Thread

[blaqkpupil]

Originally Posted by Xacual

Looks like I got hacked. Do I need to buy an authenticator with my own account? Or do I apply it to the account when I get the thing. Not 100% sure how the set up works.

one of the things you should watch out for is addons. alot of people on my realm are being hacked by the latest update of "atlas loot", looks like it had a keylog so beware >.<

and btw thanks for all the awesome picture links :O
to think i was still drooling over by the new look of water
look at these lands!!

funny, i started playing after wrath came out but i'll feel like a vanilla wow-er now with cataclysm "back in MY DAYS, you didn't have all of this :P" haha

[Last Sinner]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/c...ts-npc-models/

More screenshots, including 7 new instances, 9 new zones and every revamped zone. Azshara finally feels like what it should be.

And goblin totems....those goblin totems are pretty lol.

[Ithekro]

There are some unfinished female worgen models starting to show up in places (not fully textured/blacked out skins, but with armor on them)...they have a nice bounce...almost Gainax like.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

^^^ Thread demands pics. edit: mm seen some now, have to admit they are kinda lulsy, the hair looks cool a few of the angles make them look a little too foxish though, but one of the pics I saw gave them a little more of a feral wolf look.



Evidentally it's not just the water getting an overhaul, so is the lighting effects.

Apparently it's not fully implimented yet and you have to activate it through a script or something. "/console SunShafts 1" evidentially.

[Xacual]

Well if you just search google for female worgen you should find the topics. I'm a little disappoint in that they look like just reskinned draenei females, but on the other hand draenei females are awesome so I don't mind too much. This is going by the look of the black model, with textures I'm sure they'll be a lot different.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Yeah they do seem pretty close to Draenei, probably used them for the base and place holder bits, so will see how it looks in the end I guess.

The hair styles look pretty awesome though.

[Last Sinner]

Screenshots of the Uldum 5 player instance and the Grim Batol raid:

http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/u...id-new-forums/

[Ithekro]

Sandcrawler....complete with "droids".....a gold one and two smaller ones..red and blue.....

[Kyero Fox]

Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Yeah they do seem pretty close to Draenei, probably used them for the base and place holder bits, so will see how it looks in the end I guess.

The hair styles look pretty awesome though.

do they look like humans 100% or do they have a bit diffrence? and I like the male worgens look. wouldnt change a thing. nor will I roll a female if their any better.

[Xacual]

Outside of combat they have a racial with I think a minute cooldown they can use to switch between their human and worgen forms, pretty sure they get to customize both too. In combat they are always in worgen form though.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

What do you mean do they look like humans 100%? They look like hte male worgens, just slimmer. Same reverse legs, no tail yet (do the males have a tail?) no idea about skin colour since there is no skins, just a straight blank model. their build is dfferent to draenei, its like a cross between human female and draenei female (kinda smaller stockier draenei))... with either wolf or fox dressing instead of space goat.

[Kyero Fox]

no i mean their human forms will they look just like normal humans or have a slight diffrence like eyes maybe or hair.

[Xacual]

Well supposedly Blizz is updating all the races models to be of the same quality as the worgen and goblin ones.

[Last Sinner]

Azazael1944 and Snowblind set the mark, in my opinion.

3.3.5 is on the PTR now. Hopefully that means 3.3.4 will be live in the next few weeks. Because I'm only logging on for one 3 hour raid and for mount runs at present.

[Ithekro]

What was 3.3.4?

[Last Sinner]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

What was 3.3.4?

Gnomeregan + Echo Isles takeback!

[Ithekro]

Was that already on the PTR?

[Last Sinner]

Yes. Especially if they're moved up to 3.3.5 there now.

[Last Sinner]

Spoiler for Cata professions notes:

General

* Perks will continue to exist across all professions, and will upgraded appropriately.


Blacksmithing, Leatherworking, and Tailoring

* Many of the green (and possibly some blue) items made during the process of leveling these professions will contain random stats. In most examples, two stats on these items will be set, and two will be random. The idea with these items is to mix up the skill leveling items so you're not just, for example, creating 10 pairs of boots that are all exactly the same.
* Superior-quality items that require more materials than other recipes in the same skill range provide multiple skill-ups. For example, if a recipe takes three times the reagents, it will give you three skill-ups.
* We didn't feel like we were getting much flexibility from specializations, so they have been removed for all three of these professions. The intent was to help people diversify their profession to feel different from that of other players, but through other professions we've found systems that work better to this end, such as simply making recipes available that you can earn over time.
* To follow up the previous change, all items that required a specialization are now useable by anyone.
* Tailoring the high-end Cataclysm items will center around a single cloth type that can be crafted through five different recipes -- each with their own material components and a long cooldown.
* All three professions will create their starter sets of PVP gear, which will be upgraded with new recipes every season. In general, these are meant to keep pace as an entry-level PvP set below whatever the current Hero Point set is.


Alchemy

* New elixirs will be about 75% as strong as flasks. So you can get more total stat points with two elixirs, but flasks will still be the best at giving you a single offensive or defensive stat.
* New unique material used by nearly all high-level recipes will be created by alchemists on a one-day cooldown.
* New Mysterious Potion created with common materials restores health and mana in a massively random range, as well as sometimes granting the benefit of another potion. The health and mana range is from 1-20,000 and is able to crit. The minimum amount restored, however, is scaled upwards by the Alchemy skill, making it a great choice for alchemists to keep for themselves.
* All potions and elixirs now use the same basic vial type. Flasks still use a fancy vial.
* New Alchemist Stone.


Enchanting

* In general, material component costs for most recipes are more moderate in how much they require, while the highest-end recipes will still require large quantities. The goal of this change is to make the leveling recipes more consistent and not create unintended roadblocks in getting to the higher skill levels.
* An enchanter vanity pet is being added.


New Cataclysm weapon enchantment preview:

* Avalanche -- Chance to deal Nature damage on melee hit/spell hit.
* Elemental Slayer -- As expected, this enchantment helps players deal devastating damage to elemental creatures.
* Hurricane -- A stacking haste proc.
* Heartsong -- Mana regeneration through increased Spirit when chain-casting spells.
* Many more maximum-level enchantments are still in progress.


Engineering

* Engineering is still being designed, but expect new unpredictable gadgets to use on yourself or enemies. Toys, explosives, and even a new vanity pet or two. Oh, and powerful mechanical bows and crossbows in addition to guns.
* In general, we want Engineering to remain a tradeskill mainly focused on creating fun or useful gadgets for the engineer, but we are exploring options for items that can be sold to other players for profit.


Inscription

* With the large number of class changes coming with Cataclysm, many existing glyphs will see new functionality.
* Minor glyphs are woefully uneven from one class to the next right now, so they're a focus for us to clean them up and try to ensure that everyone has minor glyphs they're excited about.
* New Darkmoon Cards will be added, with hopes they'll all be as awesome as the Greatness card.
* We'll be adding more major glyphs as well, but in the hopes of making them as balanced as possible, we'll likely wait until after the expansion ships to add any for the new abilities in Cataclysm.
* New and more desirable off-hand and relic recipes will be added.


Jewelcrafting

* Some gem colors have changed! Hit is now blue. Mastery and Dodge are yellow. Intellect is now red. These simple changes have created a much more diverse matrix of gem cuts.
* New Jewelcrafting dailies will be introduced.
* Many cuts are being added to support the new Mastery stat.
* Some new Cataclysm jewelry recipes have completely random properties, and can sometimes create superior and epic versions.
* Jewelcrafters will have some fun new (and potentially lucrative) vanity items, including fist weapons, rhinestone sunglasses, monocles, and stardust (sprinkle on players for entertainment).


Herbalism, Skinning, and Mining

* All Cataclysm herbs have the chance of containing Volatile Life.
* There won't be a new Lotus equivalent in Cataclysm. Alchemists will use the more reliably-found Volatile Life to create the new high level flasks.


Herb Example:

* "Heartblossom -- Named for its deep red color, this delicate flower grows close to the ground, and always in pairs. If one blossom is taken, the other flower begins to wilt immediately and dies soon after. It is considered very unlucky to disturb a Heartblossom without blessing it first."
* Savage Leather, the basic Cataclysm leather, can be gathered from most creatures found in the expansion areas and can be converted to Heavy Savage Leather at a 6:1 rate.
* Pristine Hide, the rare Cataclysm hide, can be found when skinning creatures in the expansion areas, or be converted from Heavy Savage Leather.
* Obsidian is the new common mineral found when mining in Cataclysm, and can contain gems, Volatile Fire, and Volatile Shadow.
* Elementium is the new uncommon mineral found when mining in Cataclysm, and can contain gems, Volatile Fire, Volatile Water, or Volatile Earth.
* Pyrite is the new rare mineral found when mining in Cataclysm, and can contain gems and Volatile Fire.
* Previous Elementium Ore and Bar used for classic quests will be renamed to Elementium Ingot and Hardened Elementium Bar.
* We like the gathering perks as they are; not a game-changing bonus but something themed and fun. But as all tradeskills are in the design stages these are still being discussed to a degree.


Cooking

* Cooking is still in the early stages, but we plan on continuing with daily quests, feasts, and some fun new recipes.
* We liked the cooking dailies that had players picking up items that spawned in the world near the quest giver, so most if not all new cooking dailies will work similarly.


First Aid

* Bandages will have a short cast time and put a heal over time effect on the target for 8 seconds. This effect is broken by damage.
* Three new bandages! That's right: THREE!


Bandage preview:

* "Dense Embersilk Bandage" Heals for 34,800 over 8 seconds. Requires 3 Embersilk to create.


Fishing

* Lots of new fish and other fun items to catch! Fish are still used to make premium food.
* New fishing dailies.

And in addition, Blizzard have sent a warning to MMO-champion and Cata Alpha people:

Cataclysm content removed from the site
Blizzard asked us to remove all the content from the Cataclysm Alpha on the site. I don't have any reason or project to be an internet superhero because none of the underwear I have look nice over my pants and I'm in the process of removing all the content from the site.

Obviously, it also means that a few rules changed for you, my wonderful users:

* You cannot post anything from the Cataclysm Alpha on the forums. You can only discuss what was already posted on official sites/blue posts.
* Any screenshot from the Alpha will be removed and will earn you a 1 week ban. We will start enforcing this rule tomorrow to make sure you had time to read this post.
* I will track down anyone mentioning an emulated server/sandbox on my forums, find where he lives, and steal all his left shoes. You will also be banned permanently for that.
* No Blizzard-hate posts either, I support their decisions even when they aren't the nicest thing for me.
* Obviously, bans aren't retroactive and you won't get banned if you posted about something 3 days ago. It will just be deleted

So I hope you got to see those shots that were provided. You wont be seeing them for quite a while now.

[Ithekro]

Well...if they come up with a new interesting gnomish trinket or device, I could use it while tossing out goblin bombs at people.

Aslo being able to make bows and crossbows will help draenei and other hunters race that aren't dwarves (who have a bonus for guns). Also for those that like arrows as oppose to bullets..though I suppose that really won't matter anymore since ammunition is being removed from the game.