Code Geass - Spoilers & Speculation (ver 2 old)

[Var]

Originally Posted by Daniani

I know that but we're talking about this show and I wanted a fair win for my pairing to be satisfied . For me it will not be as fun as it was to talk about romance now.

Spoiler for Because:

Well, would it still be unfair if Kallen is the one who comforts him and we see a long string of developments between the two? Or does the fact that character XYZ died make it 'cheap' no matter what happens?

[Daniani]

Originally Posted by Var

Spoiler for Because:

Well, would it still be unfair if Kallen is the one who comforts him and we see a long string of developments between the two? Or does the fact that character XYZ died make it 'cheap' no matter what happens?

It's just my opinion about the romance development and I don't ask the other fans to agree with me but for me it will be cheap now as my favorite character was a consolation prize. I wanted Lelouch to choose her, not being forced to choose someone by default. It will be even worst if he chooses C.C.. But fortunately I don't see C.C. as an option.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

*cough*

I dunno if this is the place to post it or not, but there's a character poll up at the Code Geass site: http://character.biglobe.ne.jp/speci...p10/index.html
Place your votes, ladies and gentlemen!

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[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by Daniani

It's just my opinion about the romance development and I don't ask the other fans to agree with me but for me it will be cheap now as my favorite character was a consolation prize. I wanted Lelouch to choose her, not being forced to choose someone by default.

Who did what now? Shirley always had consolation prize written all over her, and despite everything Lelouch tried to do and felt she never quite fit into his world, and that's just something that has finally caught up to them. This was just the natural progression is all >_>

On other news, how about that stuff on dear old Orange-kun? Maybe Lelouch tortured him or perhaps recruited him to his side? Doesn't quite make sense with the other Turn 14 summaries though does it? You know, about the rising Siegfried and everything, unless its rising as in rising against the Cult itself

[Var]

Originally Posted by Daniani

It's just my opinion about the romance development and I don't ask the other fans to agree with me but for me it will be cheap now as my favorite character was a consolation prize. I wanted Lelouch to choose her, not being forced to choose someone by default. It will be even worst if he chooses C.C.. But fortunately I don't see C.C. as an option.

Lellouch isn't jumping into anyone's arms. My point is that, if said person were to earn Lelouch's affection, even in lieue of what has transpired, does the progression still remain cheap?

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Who did what now? Shirley always had consolation prize written all over her, and despite everything Lelouch tried to do and felt she never quite fit into his world, and that's just something that has finally caught up to them. This was just the natural progression is all >_>

That's a bit harsh.

[Tokkan]

I think KS knows full well about that, ZeroSama.

[KrimzonStriker]

Quite right, now lets move on to dear old Orange-kun

Originally Posted by Var

That's a bit harsh.

The world is a harsh place Var, its high time we and Lelouch realize that

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Quite right, now lets move on to dear old Orange-kun

Well i suppose we better because we won't have a chance when Sol finds out about this.

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

Well i suppose we better because we won't have a chance when Sol finds out about this.

Ohhh, this is going to sting, I don't think anyone should spoil it for him/her until he/she chooses to arrive here though. Plus I'd like the shock of the moment to sink in and to hit hard

Anyway, Orange-kun. Has he converted I wonder? Or was he simply interrogated. I wager interrogated considering the other Turn 14 summaries indicate that he was still against Lelouch, though a possible conversion is still possible if not now then in the near future. Perhaps that collapsing was just him simply bowing before Lelouch in reverence instead?

[Daniani]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Who did what now? Shirley always had consolation prize written all over her, and despite everything Lelouch tried to do and felt she never quite fit into his world, and that's just something that has finally caught up to them. This was just the natural progression is all >_>

I'm a Kallen fan, so by "consolation prize" I was talking about Kallen now that Shirley is dead. That's why I am not happy about my victory (I know it's a bit early to say this, but I really don't see C.C. as an option. She has no romantic development in 25+12 episodes).

Originally Posted by Var

Lellouch isn't jumping into anyone's arms. My point is that, if said person were to earn Lelouch's affection, even in lieue of what has transpired, does the progression still remain cheap?

Maybe not cheap, but I won't be satisfied. Lelouch can't choose, he is now forced to leave away shirley from his possible choices. I don't know if you will understand what I'm trying to say . Sorry if my wording is bad

[DeotoxSlayer]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

The world is a harsh place Var, its high time we and Lelouch realize that

Do you think he doesn't know that.

Knowing that doesn't help one bit the fact is Lelouch finally started to look at the bigger picture and care about more people than Nunnaly then this happens. The whole love is power thing was kinda cheesy but Lelouch seemed to believe it I don't think he'll be believing that anymore after her death, infact I don't really see anymore romance on Lelouch's part because of that. He'll most likely revert back to his old self and start only caring about the rebellion and he'll be more "Dark" which isn't what most fans want to happen.

One thing I know for sure is that i'm never visiting another episode discussion thread again, there gonna be way too much flaming and debates.

[ZeroSama]

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Ohhh, this is going to sting, I don't think anyone should spoil it for him/her until he/she chooses to arrive here though. Plus I'd like the shock of the moment to sink in and to hit hard

Anyway, Orange-kun. Has he converted I wonder? Or was he simply interrogated. I wager interrogated considering the other Turn 14 summaries indicate that he was still against Lelouch, though a possible conversion is still possible if not now then in the near future. Perhaps that collapsing was just him simply bowing before Lelouch in reverence instead?

But you do want to be there for a good old gloat don't you.

[DeotoxSlayer]

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

But you do want to be there for a good old gloat don't you.

If he actually gloats i'm gonna lose all the respect I had for him, as will some others i'm sure.

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by Daniani

I'm a Kallen fan, so by "consolation prize" I was talking about Kallen now that Shirley is dead. That's why I am not happy about my victory (I know it's a bit early to say this, but I really don't see C.C. as an option. She has no romantic development in 25+12 episodes).

Not really, this wasn't really about Kallen or Shirley for that matter, it was about the kind of world and life Lelouch had choosen to live, and unfortunately this was just the result of trying to mesh the two together. Kallen won't win, if she does, not because Shirley died but because she was able to simply cope existing in Lelouch's life better.

Hey, you're talking to a bonefied C.C fan here so don't you go claiming victory just yet!!

Originally Posted by ZeroSama

But you do want to be there for a good old gloat don't you.

If he actually gloats i'm gonna lose all the respect I had for him, as will some others i'm sure.

I'm not going to gloat guys, I wouldn't do that to Sol. He/She had a lot of good points that I respected but felt wouldn't be able to really suffice within this type of context. I will mourn with him/her, I mean I never really hated Shirley or anything like that you know

[Daniani]

Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer

Do you think he doesn't know that.

Knowing that doesn't help one bit the fact is Lelouch finally started to look at the bigger picture and care about more people than Nunnaly then this happens. The whole love is power thing was kinda cheesy but Lelouch seemed to believe it I don't think he'll be believing that anymore after her death, infact I don't really see anymore romance on Lelouch's part because of that. He'll most likely revert back to his old self and start only caring about the rebellion and he'll be more "Dark" which isn't what most fans want to happen.

That's why I said it's not that simple. Lelouch: "Hey people, now that shirley is dead, Love is still power. I have even more faith in it now!" . this will not happen.

[Aquaman OS]

Can't believe they just gave that away.

I guess they are really done with Ashford for good then. Wonder what will happen to Rivalz?

[Silver Soul]

Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer

If he actually gloats i'm gonna lose all the respect I had for him, as will some others i'm sure.

I couldn't lose anymore respect for him after the next episode so if he becomes evil I can hate him even more

[Var]

Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer

Knowing that doesn't help one bit the fact is Lelouch finally started to look at the bigger picture and care about more people than Nunnaly then this happens. The whole love is power thing was kinda cheesy but Lelouch seemed to believe it I don't think he'll be believing that anymore after her death, infact I don't really see anymore romance on Lelouch's part because of that. He'll most likely revert back to his old self and start only caring about the rebellion and he'll be more "Dark" which isn't what most fans want to happen.

I believe that this turn is likely to happen, however, I also expect the other people in his life to do their best to help him. Unlike last time, when this happened after Euphemia's death, he only had C.C.. Now he has C.C. and Kallen, and I doubt either of them will let him sink anywhere near where he was before. Kallen stopped him once already, I don't see why they can't stop him again. C.C. also does not want Lelouch to become another monster.

Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer

One thing I know for sure is that i'm never visiting another episode discussion thread again, there gonna be way too much flaming and debates.

Sound advice, I only ever visit those places to throw in a quick summary or to glance at what people are saying.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Var

I believe that this turn is likely to happen, however, I also expect the other people in his life to do their best to help him. Unlike last time, when this happened after Euphemia's death, he only had C.C.. Now he has C.C. and Kallen, and I doubt either of them will let him sink anywhere near where he was before. Kallen stopped him once already, I don't see why they can't stop him again. C.C. also does not want Lelouch to become another monster.

Agreed, I'd think that they would try and do their best to see to that Lelouch won't turn to the dark side.

[KrimzonStriker]

Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer

Do you think he doesn't know that.

Knowing that doesn't help one bit the fact is Lelouch finally started to look at the bigger picture and care about more people than Nunnaly then this happens. The whole love is power thing was kinda cheesy but Lelouch seemed to believe it I don't think he'll be believing that anymore after her death, infact I don't really see anymore romance on Lelouch's part because of that. He'll most likely revert back to his old self and start only caring about the rebellion and he'll be more "Dark" which isn't what most fans want to happen.

One thing I know for sure is that i'm never visiting another episode discussion thread again, there gonna be way too much flaming and debates.

I don't quite think so myself. If anything this will be good development for him and a way to test his resolve in the face of sacrifice once more. After the initial lose and perhaps help from those who remain close to him, I feel he will stay true to the path he chose since the rebellion is going to move forward despite all of this happening, and I have faith in his ability to do so. He is a man who breaks the chains of fate after all