[Manga] Chapter 465 Discussion

[james0246]

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Spoilers have not been released yet, so feel free to speculate to your heart's content...

[noven]

Spoiler for not official translation of fake spoiler:

Chapter 465: New light
Sasuke finally reaches near blindness as he struggles to control amaterasu and susanoo weakens. Use of Tsukiyomi against the Kumo ninja before Madara and zetsu (apparently not dead) make an appearance, to save Sasuke. Sasuke then receives a new MS upgrade at the end...?

Spoiler for fake nja:

んじゃ、簡易
タイトル『新たな光』

シー、雷影の腕の治療を完了させ、また雷影はサスケに向かう

すでにスサノオの能力は消えて、天照のコントロールする力も落ちてサスケ苦戦

そこに援護で砂やギャル男が加勢するも、サスケが複数相手に月読発動、砂とギャル男はその場に 倒れる
雷影はキックをかますも避けられる
サスケはほとんど失明状態

で、そこに戦車みたいなのに乗ったマダラとゼツ登場
マダラが戦車からサスケに「サスケェ新しい写輪眼だ！」と言って目玉が二つサスケの目と入れ替 わる
そこには、新たな万華鏡写輪眼が…！


終わり
昨日は忙しくて来れなかった、スマン
今週ナルトなんかグロイね

[Aqua Knight]

Blind because of using MS , like about 4 times? Or just his inexperience makes him go blind so fast?
And saving by Madara was predicted. And new MS upgrade with near blindess???That's amusing. Poor Sasuke, I don't want him to go blind.

[Kafriel]

The end looks way off, the rest blends well with the current story. Does anyone think that Madara would bet his eyes on Sasuke becoming more evil than him?

[noven]

I suck at japanese so it may be that Madara gives Sasuke Itachi's eyes through some sort of instant transplant jutsu (something like that was implied). Also, zetsu mentions being surprised at some aspect of Sasuke's sharingan, we'll wait for a proper translation to see i guess. XD

[SeanQ]

Why doesn't Madara force EMS on Sasuke, and steal it after implenting...?
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[Rahan]

It's not real. It's from a fake nja.

Nja (the real one) didn't post yet and probably won't considering it's already 23 o clock in Japan.

[SeanQ]

Oh okay good, still think he should do that tho.
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[Kafriel]

Why would Madara need Sasuke's MS anyway, he got his own brother's eyes for his EMS...

[Kaiba]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Why would Madara need Sasuke's MS anyway, he got his own brother's eyes for his EMS...

Come to think about it, what proof do we have that the EMS is actually eternal (it was never stated in red, after all.)? Taking his brother' eyes may allow him to use it for an extremely long time, but given that Madara is old, it's possible that even the EMS may wear out after a 100 years or so. Maybe he needs Sasuke's eyes for another 100 years?

[Killer Bee]

I'm disappionted with the Raikage fight.

Dude sacrificed his hand "just cause".

Also, Sasuke has been using the MS so heavily he should need tampons under his eyelids to control the bleeding. Instead, he's experiencing little side effects and has actually hax'd amaterasu with susanoo.

They might as well just let him kill everybody .. Naruto included.

[Kafriel]

He did manage to break one of Susanoo's ribs tho, it was supposed to be invincible
If he had let the hand on fire, it would have extended to his shoulder, then his body and head, then straight to his brain, so chopping it off seems to be the right choice...

[Sinfully Naomi]

Originally Posted by Kaiba

Come to think about it, what proof do we have that the EMS is actually eternal (it was never stated in red, after all.)? Taking his brother' eyes may allow him to use it for an extremely long time, but given that Madara is old, it's possible that even the EMS may wear out after a 100 years or so. Maybe he needs Sasuke's eyes for another 100 years?

Wouldn't Madara be screwed then 100 years later?

[Scorpian]

Originally Posted by Killer Bee

Instead, he's experiencing little side effects and has actually hax'd amaterasu with susanoo.

....Hes been shown huffing and puffing down on one knee and bleeding... And hes been using the MS sparingly, the susanoo used until now was merely a rib cage, and the amaterasu was a fire ball that was about the size of raikages chest. Even then his eyes were bleeding heavily and his MS is relatively new at that. Itachi's MS was far older than Sasuke's and the only time we've seen his eye bleed was versus Sasuke, and hes spammed it in just about all his fights.

[noven]

Originally Posted by Sinfully Naomi

Wouldn't Madara be screwed then 100 years later?

That's plenty of time to make some babies (go go madahina / madasaku) and rebuild a clan of hatred to harvest more eyes.

[Freya]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

He did manage to break one of Susanoo's ribs tho, it was supposed to be invincible
If he had let the hand on fire, it would have extended to his shoulder, then his body and head, then straight to his brain, so chopping it off seems to be the right choice...

....Sasuke pulled a half assed Susanoo. That thing looks nothing compared to Itachis. So obviously it could get owned by Raikage.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by Freya

....Sasuke pulled a half assed Susanoo. That thing looks nothing compared to Itachis. So obviously it could get owned by Raikage.

A non-head Skeletal Susano'o was all Itachi needed in order to defend against Kirin, so the fact that the Raikage was able to break some bones on a similar leveled Susano'o is pretty damn impressive.

That being said, still no legit spoilers out, and probably won't be for another 4-6 hours. So...time for predictions everyone .

Prediction 01: Sasuke will finally do something almost unforgivable (disfigure Temari or kill a Kage, one or the other).

Prediction 02: Very little of Sasuke will be shown in this chapter. Instead, we will cut to Naruto, who will be barging into the other Kages, and a discussion will convey about how cool Naruto is .

Prediction 03: A full Susano'o will appear, and the stalemate will start to fall in Sasuke's favour...

etc.

Sadly enough, I can't really come up with any legitimate sounding predictions in which Sasuke fails....

[Ero-Senn1n]

Originally Posted by james0246

That being said, still no legit spoilers out, and probably won't be for another 4-6 hours. So...time for predictions everyone .
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Prediction 04:
I think it's about time to finally show Madara and Zetsu in action, they have been fooling around and doing nothing but talking for too long, the kages are ganging up on Sasuke and Sasuke is bleeding and will probably be low on chakra soon, also will experience the side effects of MS use, so Madara will jump in and say hello to the kages.
Since the point of this fight was to show the Evil-Sasuke i don't think Kishi will give a clear win to either the kages or Sasuke, it is already some kind of win for Sasuke to be able to fight so many ninjas that are the elite of two villages (and i don't expect that Kishimoto kills Gaara or Raikage, he has use for them in the story).

[Zetsubo]

Originally Posted by james0246

Prediction 01: Sasuke will finally do something almost unforgivable (disfigure Temari or kill a Kage, one or the other).

Consequence Prediction 01:

If Sauske does that, then he will be slaughtered very soon by Shikamaru when he finds out. Shikamaru is smart enough to bring powered up Sauske down brutally just for that.

Prediction 02: Very little of Sasuke will be shown in this chapter. Instead, we will cut to Naruto, who will be barging into the other Kages, and a discussion will convey about how cool Naruto is .

Consequence Prediction 02:
Possible... for suspense and story development... who knows.

Prediction 03: A full Susano'o will appear, and the stalemate will start to fall in Sasuke's favour...

Consequence Prediction 03:
Unlikely... Not yet anyway. I think Sasuke cant obtain the proper Susano as yet for the story sake given that Naruto hasn't yet tamed Kyuubi to his will.

I predict... Sauske will fail because Danzo will find a way to screw with him.

[Vindi89]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

He did manage to break one of Susanoo's ribs tho, it was supposed to be invincible
If he had let the hand on fire, it would have extended to his shoulder, then his body and head, then straight to his brain, so chopping it off seems to be the right choice...

Funny though, a jusu that's suppose to burn as hot as the sun, a jutsu that instantly burned through the stomach of a fire breathing toad.... has since taken its time to burn anything caught on fire. Raikage seemed to take his time getting rid of the burnt hand. He should have had to cut it off immediately given the jutsu's previous accomplishments.

Just for comparison, we have fuel fires IRL that spreads faster than Amaterasu has shown. 100LL spreads at 14 ft/sec, that's over 800 feet in a minute.