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Old 2018-06-16, 12:33   Link #341
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dang, that was crazy.
Doubt All for One will be locked up for long though
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Old 2018-06-16, 12:38   Link #342
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That was beautiful.

Heck of a job All Might. He carried on through a horrible experience. The tragic realization that the grand child of his teacher was twisted into such a monster, reaching his limit, his own anger towards All for One, but he just kept on going. He knew this was his last fight and he put more than everything into it.

This is one of the reasons I love this show. They give All Might this moment. This wasn't Deku's time, but his time is soon approaching. This was the moment for All Might to put his everything into stopping All for One. And it just gives a picture of what kind of beasts these two were at full strength. Neither one of them were at their best in this fight and yet it was a showdown on such a scale that no one could really step in. Some distractions to buy time sure, but that was about it.

All Might truly became the pillar he wanted and should feel proud. The world isn't perfect, but it likely never will be. But the good he brought will resonate with people.
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Old 2018-06-16, 12:49   Link #343
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I think part of what I loved in this episode is the public's reaction to seeing All Might deflating and weakening. For all the work to take away their faith, they still believe in him. They can see that he's weak and losing ground; his cool, smiling façade is completely gone; he's coughing blood all over. And still, they believe in him and trust him, because no matter how he looks or how overwhelmed he is they know that he lives to protect and to give hope, and as long as he doesn't give up they're never going to give up on him. He spent a lot of time worrying and demanding that his injuries and weakened state be kept secret so people wouldn't lose faith or lose hope, but if anything witnessing him like that strengthened their hope and faith in him and the Heroes.
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Old 2018-06-16, 15:46   Link #344
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United States of Smash? Really? Forget superman, ALL MIGHT is the all American hero. :P

Amazing episode. One of the best, maybe the best of this show yet. Which is saying a lot because this show has had a lot of great movements. Now this is how a Hero retires.

I like how even Endevour cheered All Might on. Basically, I refuse to believe my eternal rival is this pathetic! Get back in the fight!
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Old 2018-06-16, 18:00   Link #345
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So not only is the arch-villain still alive and has all his quirks while All Might has lost his, but he also knows that Deku has inherited One for All. This is not good. With all those quirks, it seems unlikely that any prison can hold him for long. Especially since his lackey with the long-range teleport quirk is also still alive. Unless they are allowed to keep those villains sedated indefinitely, this is a terrible situation.
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Old 2018-06-16, 19:00   Link #346
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So not only is the arch-villain still alive and has all his quirks while All Might has lost his, but he also knows that Deku has inherited One for All. This is not good. With all those quirks, it seems unlikely that any prison can hold him for long. Especially since his lackey with the long-range teleport quirk is also still alive. Unless they are allowed to keep those villains sedated indefinitely, this is a terrible situation.
It could be worse. Doesn't appear All for One told Tomura anything about One for All. He had to have his suspicions before this fight and he certainly had to have known how One for All works as a quirk. And yet it doesn't appear he said anything. So if he hasn't said or done anything yet he might not choose to go after Deku for the time being. Not that he's safe since Tomura is targeting him anyways...

Maybe they will have to keep him under sedation. There has to be some very difficult villains to keep contained even if they only have the one quirk. Must have some way to keep them under control.
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Old 2018-06-16, 19:12   Link #347
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I'm crying man. I can't believe this actually moved me to tears. While All Might didn''t die like I predicted watching those people crying out you can do it. What a way to end a career!

Also All For One is the lowest of the low taking that poor women's child after murdering her and then corrupting him. That man is the very definition of evil.

https://youtu.be/DkyGTMYZELE
Grandchild...
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Old 2018-06-16, 19:39   Link #348
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Grandchild...
The timeline there actually confuses me a bit, because the previous OfA looked pretty young, and that ought not to be too long ago, while Shigaraki is probably in his 20s... so? How was she a grandmother already?
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Old 2018-06-16, 19:54   Link #349
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The timeline there actually confuses me a bit, because the previous OfA looked pretty young, and that ought not to be too long ago, while Shigaraki is probably in his 20s... so? How was she a grandmother already?
She didn't look much younger than the flashback version of Gran Torino, and look how old he is now. My guess is All Might is the one who's a good bit older than he looks. And one thing I want to know is how Shigaraki would react if he found out the truth, discovered that the "only one who came for him" basically kidnapped him to torture his enemy? Especially if he's the one who killed his parents or orchestrated their deaths for similar reasons. That's the sort of stuff that leads to the "successor" turning on his master.
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Old 2018-06-16, 20:07   Link #350
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She didn't look much younger than the flashback version of Gran Torino, and look how old he is now. My guess is All Might is the one who's a good bit older than he looks. And one thing I want to know is how Shigaraki would react if he found out the truth, discovered that the "only one who came for him" basically kidnapped him to torture his enemy? Especially if he's the one who killed his parents or orchestrated their deaths for similar reasons. That's the sort of stuff that leads to the "successor" turning on his master.
Maybe. But Shigaraki seems to have become thoroughly twisted inside, and appears to hold an enormous amount of anger for the fact that heroes, and All Might in particular, weren't there to help him when he needed them. I'm not sure rational explanations of how he's been tricked and used all this time will make much of a dent in his attitude at this point.
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Old 2018-06-16, 20:37   Link #351
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The timeline there actually confuses me a bit, because the previous OfA looked pretty young, and that ought not to be too long ago, while Shigaraki is probably in his 20s... so? How was she a grandmother already?
Compare her to the pussy cats who were actually in their early 30's. Heck given a healthy life style she could look great even in early 40's

When she met All Might, he was probably in his teens while she may have been in her late thirties. If she married early, then she could easily have had a 10 year kid by the time she met all Might. Fast forward 30 years and she would be in her 60's, her child would be in their early 40's and, if they too married early, Shigaraki could be right around the age of 20. All Might in this case would be in his late 40's which is not at all hard to believe; neither his true form or his muscle form makes him look all that young... And Gran Torino kind supports that a lot of time passed, as he age A LOT since she met All might... Give or take a few years and it fits
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Old 2018-06-16, 20:42   Link #352
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Maybe. But Shigaraki seems to have become thoroughly twisted inside, and appears to hold an enormous amount of anger for the fact that heroes, and All Might in particular, weren't there to help him when he needed them. I'm not sure rational explanations of how he's been tricked and used all this time will make much of a dent in his attitude at this point.
His attitude toward Heroes? Yeah, I don't think it'd matter who killed his parents or why. His attitude toward AFO and his plans? I can't imagine it not having a huge impact. At the least he'd find a way to kill the bastard, and I could imagine it even leading him to developing a new league of "true heroes", vigilantes who completely ignored the rules and sneered at public opinion, dedicated solely to eliminating villains in pursuit of a world where people like him won't happen. Which would frankly make for an interesting evolution of the League, maybe making public opinion shakier still when their crimes start to shift to killing killers.
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Old 2018-06-16, 21:37   Link #353
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More like "USS! USS! USS!" .
Imagine MHA in a communist setting.

Anyway, All Might's last great battle lived up to the hype. I almost cried at the last part because Deku's responsibility just increased tenfold.
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Old 2018-06-16, 23:53   Link #354
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Goosebumps throughout the episode. Probably the best BnHA episode.
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Old 2018-06-17, 01:52   Link #355
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almost forgot, have to give a shoutout to All For One’s voice actors, especially in Japanese, that was the perfect way to portray a cunning and manipulative villain

I didn’t look it up, but he sounds really familiar
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Old 2018-06-17, 03:33   Link #356
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^I don't even need to look it up, that's totally Akio Ohtsuka. And yes, he is quite good.

So we've got Detroit Smash, Delaware Smash, and United States of Smash. All Might is the true hero of geography! I wonder what the reasoning was behind those names.
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Old 2018-06-17, 03:36   Link #357
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Imagine MHA in a communist setting.
Midoriya: Red Son ?

Anyway, huh... it's Japan, but from an American perspective, it's already probably way too socialist-like. In American superhero comics, for the longest time, State registration has been considered a threat to individual liberty and usually a villainous plan. After Civil War it has become the status quo in Marvel, but not without considerable scepticism. Compare MHA, where everyone has State issued licenses to use their powers and that's considered the way things just should be, including some rather extreme consequences such as it having been a crime, in theory, for the kids to have fought Stain, even though especially Deku and Todoroki had the best possible intentions and motives.
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Old 2018-06-17, 05:31   Link #358
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They really nailed this arc. Absolutely amazing how well they are adapting this manga. All Might is the best "Superman" in the comic world today, imo. An overpowered character done right.
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Old 2018-06-17, 05:33   Link #359
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The cultural differences aside, I think that BNHA has already shown the consequences of having a school where heroes are being raised.
  • Deku raises the questions of children with quirks that are too strong for their underdeveloped bodies
  • Deku and Todoroki raise the question of what to do with children who will undermine authority regardless
  • Bakugo and Shinsou raise questions on quirks that are typically villain-like and may be unsuitable for other aspects of heroic work

Another thing to remind ourselves of is that unlike in the world of Civil War, most people have a quirk in some way or fashion. Being quirk less is rare after all. And amongst those with quirks, most have quirks that are too weak, for example Deku's mom told the doctor that she has weak telekinesis and that Deku's dad has something with fire. This makes the push for heroic schools rather easy.

However , I find several things to be lacking amidst this. If we look at All Might's flashback, then it should be safe to assume that the era of professional heroism is relatively young. Nana and Gran Torino might be one of the few people with quirks doing heroic work. And if we add that a young high school kid All Might feels that the people live in fear, then we can assume that crime is at an all time high and that law enforcement has trouble keeping up. Why? Quirks.

Soon after this sudden mutation of the human gene, it's impossible for there not to be a bunch of people who use their quirks selfishly. This in turn also gives birth to villains, especially when they're born with strong quirks. And super villains like All for One, give birth to organized crime on a level that has never been seen before.

In the midst of all of this, I wonder. Where do vigilantes fit in this? Quirk experimentation? Militarization of quirk users? Quirk elitism? Quirk families/dynasties? And most importantly, quirk vs quirkless situations? I can't think that humans welcomed and accepted this change. There must've been some initial backlash, especially for those whose quirks barely make them look human (Tokoyami, Ashido, Kamui woods, Orca guy and that Stain fanboy come to mind).


Lastly, I think that where the heroic schools like UA really failed, is in their lack of recruitment. Rather than merely having prospects come at them, they should be the ones to actively scout children with strong quirks. There's probably a lot of people with villain like quirks like Bakugo and Shinsou, who can be saved from going down a terrible path. At the same time, giving people a place to freely exert their quirks in a learning environment will save children whose quirks are too strong for their own good and children who just want to use their quirks and master them. Especially the latter group can quickly devolve into a path of villainy, as this group might feel suffocated under the lack of outlets for their quirks.
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Old 2018-06-17, 07:25   Link #360
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I wouldn't say All Might's worries about his identity were for nothing exactly. However, the fact that at this point in time the public still believes in him despite his secret speaks volumes of what he has done to earn their trust.
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