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View Poll Results: Code Geass: Akito the Exiled OVA - Episode 2 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 13 | 22.41% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 12 | 20.69% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 15 | 25.86% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 18.97% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 6.90% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.72% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.72% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.72% | |
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2013-09-15, 18:51 | Link #61 | |
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I don't think Julius will have a powerful machine though. Perhaps just a repainted Sutherland or Gloucester. Or maybe he'll stay in a G-1 base all the time. That's more likely. I'm interested in the rest of the possible upgrades or new units though, especially for the other Britannian knights and their orders. |
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2013-09-15, 19:23 | Link #62 | |
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2013-09-16, 00:05 | Link #64 | |
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2013-09-16, 00:25 | Link #65 | |
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2013-09-16, 01:51 | Link #66 |
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Haven't watched it yet, so trying to ignore spoilers (besides a vague understanding of one of the obvious ones), but is Euro-Britannia considered like a separate entity from the main Imperial Britannian Forces, sort of like the French Foriegn Legion or the Flying Tigers. My personal sort of fanon is that the current European war started with Euro-Britannia intervening to restore the Romanov Dynasty to the Russian Imperial throne as a Britannian proxy, which eventually spread to a war against the EU when they initially resisted.
I don't think Britannia would outright annex the entire world; they'd only do it to cultures they see as 'unfit for self-government', much the same way as McKinley views the Filippinos here: http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5575/ Actually, the Untied States occupation and fight against the Filippino insurgency might be a good analog for the Occupation of Area 11. |
2013-09-16, 02:37 | Link #67 | |
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2013-09-16, 02:40 | Link #68 | |
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Look at this image from the official website for a moment: http://www.geass.jp/akito/about_geass.html The actual map appears to be from R2. I'd wish I could translate the Japanese text in this image, or the other pictures in the same sequence that seem to be rather whimsical but important explanatory material, since it looks like there would be a better official explanation than what I'm about to type, especially for the details...but let's get to the point. In addition to showing the rarely seen E.U. flag, it also suggests that Euro Britannia both has a slightly different flag and is apparently effectively a regional subdivision of the Holy Britannian Empire, though I don't know if that's formally or just de facto since the Emperor is uninterested in micromanaging the conflict, leaving the European nobles and the Duke leading them to their own affairs. If you rewatch the first episode, that specific Euro Britannia flag can be seen in a couple of places, like outside the building where Manfredi and Shin are talking. Previews for the second episode show us an untouched Euro Britannian city with a statue of the Emperor plus what looks like the Cyrillic writing system. I guess that's compatible with your assumption that in certain areas the locals have a Russian or Eastern European culture and don't necessarily see themselves as a conquered people, which might be a hint of what you're speculating about or something equivalent. In general, I have the impression that the second episode might well try to address some of these things whenever the Euro Britannians are talking among themselves, but most of the spoilers don't really go into the details of the less "shocking" or action-centric parts. |
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2013-09-16, 02:50 | Link #70 | |
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I also imagine that if the Duke is too ambitious and wants to unilaterally declare himself a monarch that would potentially put him in conflict with the mainland. |
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2013-09-16, 02:55 | Link #71 |
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@Xander: Yeah, a big thing about Britannia to me is that its generally not the Emperor directly directing things unless there's extraordinary circumstances; generally its the Imperial Bureaucracy and Parliament. I think that kinda helps separate what Britannia was under Charles from the honest to God Absolutism Lelouch wielded as Emperor.
My understanding is that Britannia became a haven for the Royal and Noble Families of Europe who fled as the Revolutionary Wave spread from France across the continent. Euro-Britannia is specifically those European houses who wish to reclaim their titles they feel were usurped by the plebs and anarchists; or at least my understanding is that it is. I also (and again this is just fanon) have the war from CC's Flashback being a war between the EU and Russian Empire about 50 or 60 years or so before the beginning of the series; that the Russian Monarchy was the most recent one to fall I feel would make it one of the ideal places to start. I'm sort of surprised that all these maps keep giving Southeast Asia to the Asian Federation; I thought most of it had been conquered by Britannia before they had even invaded Japan. (I also like to think Indonesia and Indochina were EU colonies before Britannia annexed them) |
2013-09-16, 03:16 | Link #72 | |
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The place they are entering during th PV is Belarussian town Slonim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slonim - you can see it's name "Слонiм" written in belarussian on a side of a road and it's seal.
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Those aren't actually Knightmare Frame names at all though. They're simply the names of the respective Holy Knight Orders. They're military organizations, not KMF models. Quote:
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Practically speaking, I don't think the Imperial establishment expects to let them reconstitute their countries as semi-independent entities, at least not without maintaining a crystal-clear subservience to the ruling Emperor. It wouldn't be an understatement to say that Code Geass maps usually made my head spin a little. |
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2013-09-16, 04:44 | Link #76 | ||
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In Code Geass, there seem to be no other active empires or monarchies in the West besides Britannia. This means there were two or three centuries with almost no opportunities to put in practice the vast majority of those European titles, as opposed to whatever Britannian titles were readily available or which were acquired by marriage. The rest would just be paper rights, at least outside of the recently acquired Russian or Eastern territories of Euro Britannia, but then there's the matter of whether the Emperor has allowed anyone to formally become the Russian Tsar just yet. I'm guessing no, either due to formalities or because it could be interpreted as a challenge to the Emperor's authority. Even if there are detailed records of all these former European titles, there's the matter of exactly how many European nobles have enough rank and influence within Britannia itself, given all the ups and downs of Britannian politics and its cyclical conflicts over succession to the throne. Consolidation of the major titles into less hands through arranged marriages as well as assassinations wouldn't be out of the question. There's also the issue of exactly how many royal families actually survived to escape to Britannia. And then you have those noble families which may have either stayed in the E.U. by giving up their rights, or those which eventually returned to Europe after defecting from Britannia, like Leila's father, for whatever political, social or economic reasons. I guess there might well be multiple people with claims equal or superior to whatever old European title is claimed by Duke Verance, though I wouldn't be surprised if he has a claim to something big since Duke is already an important rank for someone who isn't Britannian royalty, but he might still be the single most influential person and thus is recognized as being the head of the Euro Britannian faction within the Holy Britannian Empire. I'm sure some of these guesses might well be proven wrong or irrelevant by the show though, but a few might be confirmed or hinted at. Quote:
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I don't think there were necessarily that many households 'open' at the time. America at the time of the French of the Revolution is still for the most part unsettled, so I don't think that it'd be too difficult for disenfranchised noble families to stake claims on the frontier. The extent to wish Non-British culture is extant within Britannia (Bismark, Marianne, and even French names like Clovis and Lelouch (which is a corruption of LaRouche) ) makes me feel like that was kept alive. I don't think the Britannian government would allow Russia to regain the title Tsar, you're right about that. I think at most they'd let a few states have Kings (most having Dukes or Princes), if only so Charles could claim the title King of Kings. Quote:
Also I don't think Britannia's history is quite as turbulent as they make it out to be, because you just can't run an empire with continuous strife. I don't think it'd be anymore turbulent than Britain had been, though that isn't saying too much because Britain did have pretty turbulent wars of succession. But I think generally succession crisis's would've been created mainly by conflicting political interests, and not randomly arising from individual ambition, though that'd certainly play a part. I also think that historically the position of Emperor hadn't been a particularly strong position in practice, with most power vested in the nobility in the Bureaucracy and Parliament. Quote:
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2013-09-16, 15:36 | Link #78 |
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what I wonder at times is the eu territories in Africa, did they join the eu or were they colonies around the time the EU was set up, plus you have to wonder how the eu has real world map setup, it seems to hint to laziness on the part of the writers to reflect the changed history of code Geass from real world, especially on who beat napoleon at waterloo since he conquered Britain in Code Geass world.
It' ain't impossible but the writers could've been more clear on how the eu came to be about part form what they gave us as the specific's are a bit vague for my tastes, and as I have said before seems to show they didn't really look into European history very well, which is a bit insulting when you come from Europe like me. as someone pointed out on TV tropes, the changed history of Julius caser never conquering Britain and Napoleon conquering Britain actually would mean Britain never existing as a nation in a way, plus Napoleon conquering Europe would most likely mean Germany would never come into proper existence if Bismarck etc. never had the chance to rise. plus how did the first world war come about, or the war C.C was briefly shown to appear in in episode 25 of season one. It's vagueness like this that makes code Geass a bit annoying at times, feels they wasted the potential to explore a lot of things. Of course this is all very debateable, plus in the long run matters little since whatever happens in Akito leads on to the eu's state in R2. But looking forward to seeing the rest of Akito |
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The Post-WWII map for states is kind of annoying, but I can't blame them too much for not putting that much detail in (EU Lesotho is ridiculous though). But as the poster above me said, Napoleon has been retconned so that he's arrested and executed before he can enact the 18th of Brumaire Coup D'etat. Quote:
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