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xzpwnz · 2015-05-24, 10:39

I liked it, even with all the dark themes it kept a light-hearted and funny feel to it

jpidz69 · 2015-05-24, 11:01

As a reader i like it , as a man i enjoy reading it...

jpidz69 · 2015-05-24, 11:03

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Originally Posted by rantaid

there is manga.

Spoiler:

Yup, you have a point....

kyuudere · 2015-05-24, 11:09

I love the MC. He's a perfect as Demon Lord.
Every demon lord should learn from him.

Fuck your succubi and kill whoever gets in your way!

obnuchious · 2015-05-24, 11:21

to those who read ahead; was it explained thoroughly why MC chose to make a dungeon? and for what exact purpose?

laclongquan · 2015-05-24, 11:45

The novel explain in those scenes, but the manga cut off. Basically, by using sex demon like succubus as mobile mana storage vessel, MC can have access to great amount of magic.

Drain mana from the dungeon core ---> store into succubus ---> capable of drawing mana from her anywhere else.

Riz · 2015-05-24, 13:11

what with that tags?

maxxus0923 · 2015-05-24, 14:13

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Originally Posted by Riz

what with that tags?

He is a shitty protagonist so i tagged kuso protagonist... he is shitty in a moral way but he is still a good protagonist

cadu_ · 2015-05-24, 17:02

I`m wondering about the MC`s past, like what made him hate society so much.
Really liked the series, already read the 3 translated WN chapters and the first translated manga chapter. Too bad the translations a irregular with only 3 chapter in more than 6 months.

bakato · 2015-05-24, 17:48

I need to know. How did he break the hero girl?

Okashira · 2015-05-24, 18:26

I remember checking this one when news about it being adapted in more than one media were out.... It's actually pretty bland; initially I didn't even knew that this was nocturne

I liked the story of the second heroine, which shows how manipulative the mc can be.

Spoiler for Yunis:

She is basically an adventurer, she was born under the "star of the hero" or something (reads as Eiyuu instead of Yuusha), it's hinted that there it can be many heroes from different things, the "star" being one of them.

She invades the dungeon after hearing rumors about an evil magician oppressing villages (you can see her attack in chapter 2, it's at comic walkervalkyrie). The MC defeats her with a surprise attack; he is partially immortal due to his link to the dungeon, and he used that to sneak a sleep spell.

Next she is (naturally) tied up to a bed, and the mc questions her and she decides to keep quiet about everything as to protect the people who hired her (I heard it from the wind!), but the mc joked that since no culprit is known, there is no choice other than to cleanse all of the villages; however that line is a trick so that Yunis takes all of the blame upon herself and the mc decides to "punish her" in you know what way.

First the succubus strikes, and plays with her tied up self for a couple of hours, she loses consciousness. The the mc steps in and then you know what. The MC does this in a incredibly sweet and loving way, thus she doesn't experience the frustration of having her first time being 'a rape'. The mc even releases her in the middle of it and tells her that they are ok with that much, but she is already hooked to it, she embraces him while pleading him to keep going

While she is in the climax, the mc makes her sleep with a spell and with hypnosis he enters commands that are compaible with her sense of justice (a good person is kind and help others, and bad actions need to recieve proper punishment and stuff like that; soft ideas which can give birth to pretty extreme values).

When she awakens the mc asks her for dinner with his home made dishes (which are all amazing) and then tells her that she is free. Since he is so kind, she is confused about the rumors about the evil wizard oppressing the village and he shows her what he has been doing, he has improving the soil increasing the harvest amount and he distribtues medicine to combat plagues or doing other stuff that are good in the long run for the villages. The reader knows that the MC cares about villages in the same way he would for cattle, but Yunis sees the moving gratitude that the villages have for him and thinks of him as a kind ruler who helps the people under his command and just need a little bit of tax (the so called "tribute").

This scene repeats a few times, until they go to the village that hired Yunis. Since they opposed him, the mc left them alone, and thus they were the victim of plagues and famine. The villagers start blaming Yunis for killing the mc, they "deduce" that they didn't got the protection the mc promished because she 'killed him', and stone her while blaming her; at this point the mc shows up and shields her with his body (injuring himself), the MC mentions that for this type of people Yunis is willing to sacrifice herself (even going as far as giving up virginity); thus totally confused, enraged and heartbroken by the events, Yunis laughs creepely and proceeds to murder everyone in the village helped by the precept of "sin must be punished".

The mc praises her and mentions that she "isn't tainted" as she acted in defence of people who were in danger (him), and embrances her. They introduce each other again, but this time they share their whole names (which Yunis previously didn't do, since magicians can use someone's full name to control a person).

She loses her Hero/Eiyuu job due to the MC's actions; it's later revealed that the love for the MC and the hate for Yunis that the villagers felt, was thanks to the succubus using her abilities beforehand. Yunis is royalty btw

Thus, she becomes one of the MC women, and she was given the will of dirtying her own hands when it came down to it, and still be faithful to the mc if he does the same.

And that's about it? Might have some mistakes since it's been some time (since it's me, maybe even the girl's name is wrong

). Red hair and ponytail is the absolute best possible haircut /thead

SoloPanda · 2015-05-24, 20:31

@Okashira Thanks for that.

I was curious about his reasoning behind a dungeon at first but I just figured he was building it to protect the "core" from invaders. If humans found out about such a thing they would definitely send armies and such to take it over. Of course the armies would consist of primarily females walking into a trap to become haremets and the males would likely just be turned undead or something.

jpidz69 · 2015-05-24, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okashira

I remember checking this one when news about it being adapted in more than one media were out.... It's actually pretty bland; initially I didn't even knew that this was nocturne

I liked the story of the second heroine, which shows how manipulative the mc can be.

Spoiler for Yunis:

She is basically an adventurer, she was born under the "star of the hero" or something (reads as Eiyuu instead of Yuusha), it's hinted that there it can be many heroes from different things, the "star" being one of them.

She invades the dungeon after hearing rumors about an evil magician oppressing villages (you can see her attack in chapter 2, it's at comic walker). The MC defeats her with a surprise attack; he is partially immortal due to his link to the dungeon, and he used that to sneak a sleep spell.

Next she is (naturally) tied up to a bed, and the mc questions her and she decides to keep quiet about everything as to protect the people who hired her (I heard it from the wind!), but the mc joked that since no culprit is known, there is no choice other than to cleanse all of the villages; however that line is a trick so that Yunis takes all of the blame upon herself and the mc decides to "punish her" in you know what way.

First the succubus strikes, and plays with her tied up self for a couple of hours, she loses consciousness. The the mc steps in and then you know what. The MC does this in a incredibly sweet and loving way, thus she doesn't experience the frustration of having her first time being 'a rape'. The mc even releases her in the middle of it and tells her that they are ok with that much, but she is already hooked to it, she embraces him while pleading him to keep going

While she is in the climax, the mc makes her sleep with a spell and with hypnosis he enters commands that are compaible with her sense of justice (a good person is kind and help others, and bad actions need to recieve proper punishment and stuff like that; soft ideas which can give birth to pretty extreme values).

When she awakens the mc asks her for dinner with his home made dishes (which are all amazing) and then tells her that she is free. Since he is so kind, she is confused about the rumors about the evil wizard oppressing the village and he shows her what he has been doing, he has improving the soil increasing the harvest amount and he distribtues medicine to combat plagues or doing other stuff that are good in the long run for the villages. The reader knows that the MC cares about villages in the same way he would for cattle, but Yunis sees the moving gratitude that the villages have for him and thinks of him as a kind ruler who helps the people under his command and just need a little bit of tax (the so called "tribute").

This scene repeats a few times, until they go to the village that hired Yunis. Since they opposed him, the mc left them alone, and thus they were the victim of plagues and famine. The villagers start blaming Yunis for killing the mc, they "deduce" that they didn't got the protection the mc promished because she 'killed him', and stone her while blaming her; at this point the mc shows up and shields her with his body (injuring himself), the MC mentions that for this type of people Yunis is willing to sacrifice herself (even going as far as giving up virginity); thus totally confused, enraged and heartbroken by the events, Yunis laughs creepely and proceeds to murder everyone in the village helped by the precept of "sin must be punished".

The mc praises her and mentions that she "isn't tainted" as she acted in defence of people who were in danger (him), and embrances her. They introduce each other again, but this time they share their whole names (which Yunis previously didn't do, since magicians can use someone's full name to control a person).

She loses her Hero/Eiyuu job due to the MC's actions; it's later revealed that the love for the MC and the hate for Yunis that the villagers felt, was thanks to the succubus using her abilities beforehand. Yunis is royalty btw

Thus, she becomes one of the MC women, and she was given the will of dirtying her own hands when it came down to it, and still be faithful to the mc if he does the same.

And that's about it? Might have some mistakes since it's been some time (since it's me, maybe even the girl's name is wrong

). Red hair and ponytail is the absolute best possible haircut /thead

I tried looking at comic walker but i can't find it....

SoloPanda · 2015-05-25, 01:10

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Originally Posted by jpidz69

I tried looking at comic walker but i can't find it....

that's because it's released on Comic Valkyrie which is an online magazine similar to comic walker. I added the link to the opening post to make it easier to find.

Blankdom · 2015-05-25, 03:20

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Originally Posted by theultimates12

Man, why are there so many stories here that has the MC hating human?

Beside that, this looks a bit interesting. Though, I hope it keeps on being a dark comedy.

Maybe because humans are just that 'dark'? Look at some of our history (Wars and such) for an example, we aren't that 'good' / benevolent.

SoloPanda · 2015-05-25, 04:40

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Originally Posted by Blankdom

we aren't that 'good' / benevolent.

Hmph speak for yourself, I am a paragon of virtue..... (/hides the bodies and lolis in the dungeon)

I think the human hating MC kick is just something that's catching on because so many people can identify with it on some level. I mean think about how many people leave work or school every day thinking, "to hell with these people!!" because someone took credit for their work or bullied them in some way or just did something generally insulting with or without realizing it. Obviously most of them don't wish to bring about the downfall of the human race but many have a small amount of anger directed to everyone around them in general for the rest of the day. On that level I can identify with the hateful, greedy, and lustful MC. The extremes they go to while exacting their revenge though is just fantasy and an outlet for that frustration.

From my very narrow minded point of view at least.

wuhugm · 2015-05-25, 06:11

This is from nocturne

MT-G · 2015-05-25, 12:03

Just found out the manga and read it to chapter 3, time to catch up with the LN.

Spoiler for LN illustration, Eris Greyrat?:

jpidz69 · 2015-05-26, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT-G

Just found out the manga and read it to chapter 3, time to catch up with the LN.

Spoiler for LN illustration, Eris Greyrat?:

link please......

Slaine · 2015-05-26, 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoloPanda

To be honest I'm not sure how the author managed to take character traits that I absolutely hate most of the time and make me smile.

Anyway I absolutely recommend checking out the first chapter even if you dislike dark fantasy like myself. I believe that most people will find it fun and amusing.

Comic Valkyrie The official release can be read here in Japanese raw.

I don't understand either because I hate this MC. I can't smile.

I love Dark Fantasy. That being said, I just don't understand the appeal of these kinds of characters when cast in the role of protagonist. The MC would make a great villain but to follow him and similar characters on their journeys of evil... I just have no interest. I can't sympathize or cheer them on in any way. I'm always left wanting someone to foil these characters or for justice to be meted out in some manner.

Who exactly is the target audience here? People who derive pleasure from all sorts of wickedness that can't actually be carried out without consequence? Are these types of works representative of some outlet for frustration dialed up to the max?

Though I'm not going to root for a sociopathic serial killer in reality(I think most decent people would share my view on that), suddenly showing the same kind of evil in a fictitious setting doesn't actually change my feelings towards said actions/behavior. I simply can't find it amusing. I always find myself reading this kind of material with a cold heart hoping for the delivery of some much needed comeuppance.

I have a clear division of right and wrong, so when I'm confronted with a protagonist like the one in this story... There is no possible way to gloss over their moral shortcomings.

All that said, I can appreciate the story and how the characters acquire the title of 'Maou' and the like but it would be infinitely more palatable if there were a heroic figure as well. Someone to actually care about.

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Riz Djokjakarta~~~ Join Date: May 2014 Location: Under The Hell and Above The Heaven	what with that tags? __________________ “Excuse me, two of this [squeezed raw milk soft cream] please!” Kazuki spontaneously read the menu frankly without even questioning it. “Otouto-kun…that item’s name, make me feel so complicated somehow…” Kaguya-senpai was dealt the final blow from a strange place and received even more shock. [Sauce]

2015-05-24, 17:02	Link #29
cadu_ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014	I`m wondering about the MC`s past, like what made him hate society so much. Really liked the series, already read the 3 translated WN chapters and the first translated manga chapter. Too bad the translations a irregular with only 3 chapter in more than 6 months. __________________

2015-05-24, 18:26	Link #31
Okashira どうだろうね。ふふ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Chile	I remember checking this one when news about it being adapted in more than one media were out.... It's actually pretty bland; initially I didn't even knew that this was nocturne I liked the story of the second heroine, which shows how manipulative the mc can be. Spoiler for Yunis: She is basically an adventurer, she was born under the "star of the hero" or something (reads as Eiyuu instead of Yuusha), it's hinted that there it can be many heroes from different things, the "star" being one of them. She invades the dungeon after hearing rumors about an evil magician oppressing villages (you can see her attack in chapter 2, it's at comic walkervalkyrie). The MC defeats her with a surprise attack; he is partially immortal due to his link to the dungeon, and he used that to sneak a sleep spell. Next she is (naturally) tied up to a bed, and the mc questions her and she decides to keep quiet about everything as to protect the people who hired her (I heard it from the wind!), but the mc joked that since no culprit is known, there is no choice other than to cleanse all of the villages; however that line is a trick so that Yunis takes all of the blame upon herself and the mc decides to "punish her" in you know what way. First the succubus strikes, and plays with her tied up self for a couple of hours, she loses consciousness. The the mc steps in and then you know what. The MC does this in a incredibly sweet and loving way, thus she doesn't experience the frustration of having her first time being 'a rape'. The mc even releases her in the middle of it and tells her that they are ok with that much, but she is already hooked to it, she embraces him while pleading him to keep going While she is in the climax, the mc makes her sleep with a spell and with hypnosis he enters commands that are compaible with her sense of justice (a good person is kind and help others, and bad actions need to recieve proper punishment and stuff like that; soft ideas which can give birth to pretty extreme values). When she awakens the mc asks her for dinner with his home made dishes (which are all amazing) and then tells her that she is free. Since he is so kind, she is confused about the rumors about the evil wizard oppressing the village and he shows her what he has been doing, he has improving the soil increasing the harvest amount and he distribtues medicine to combat plagues or doing other stuff that are good in the long run for the villages. The reader knows that the MC cares about villages in the same way he would for cattle, but Yunis sees the moving gratitude that the villages have for him and thinks of him as a kind ruler who helps the people under his command and just need a little bit of tax (the so called "tribute"). This scene repeats a few times, until they go to the village that hired Yunis. Since they opposed him, the mc left them alone, and thus they were the victim of plagues and famine. The villagers start blaming Yunis for killing the mc, they "deduce" that they didn't got the protection the mc promished because she 'killed him', and stone her while blaming her; at this point the mc shows up and shields her with his body (injuring himself), the MC mentions that for this type of people Yunis is willing to sacrifice herself (even going as far as giving up virginity); thus totally confused, enraged and heartbroken by the events, Yunis laughs creepely and proceeds to murder everyone in the village helped by the precept of "sin must be punished". The mc praises her and mentions that she "isn't tainted" as she acted in defence of people who were in danger (him), and embrances her. They introduce each other again, but this time they share their whole names (which Yunis previously didn't do, since magicians can use someone's full name to control a person). She loses her Hero/Eiyuu job due to the MC's actions; it's later revealed that the love for the MC and the hate for Yunis that the villagers felt, was thanks to the succubus using her abilities beforehand. Yunis is royalty btw Thus, she becomes one of the MC women, and she was given the will of dirtying her own hands when it came down to it, and still be faithful to the mc if he does the same. And that's about it? Might have some mistakes since it's been some time (since it's me, maybe even the girl's name is wrong ). Red hair and ponytail is the absolute best possible haircut /thead __________________ Now sponsoring : video game analogies (ES) Last update : Chapter 25 as of 31/08/12 Last edited by Okashira; 2015-05-25 at 06:57.

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SoloPanda Not A Loli-con.... Join Date: May 2011 Location: Beyond the looking glass	@Okashira Thanks for that. I was curious about his reasoning behind a dungeon at first but I just figured he was building it to protect the "core" from invaders. If humans found out about such a thing they would definitely send armies and such to take it over. Of course the armies would consist of primarily females walking into a trap to become haremets and the males would likely just be turned undead or something. __________________ The edge of sadomasochism is paper thin

2015-05-24, 10:39	Link #21
xzpwnz (¬‿¬) Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: 大切な場所	I liked it, even with all the dark themes it kept a light-hearted and funny feel to it

2015-05-24, 11:01	Link #22
jpidz69 Not a Perv but an Artist. Join Date: May 2015	As a reader i like it , as a man i enjoy reading it...

2015-05-24, 11:09	Link #24
kyuudere Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014	I love the MC. He's a perfect as Demon Lord. Every demon lord should learn from him. Fuck your succubi and kill whoever gets in your way!

2015-05-24, 11:45	Link #26
laclongquan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Age: 42	The novel explain in those scenes, but the manga cut off. Basically, by using sex demon like succubus as mobile mana storage vessel, MC can have access to great amount of magic. Drain mana from the dungeon core ---> store into succubus ---> capable of drawing mana from her anywhere else.

2015-05-24, 17:48	Link #30
bakato Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	I need to know. How did he break the hero girl?

2015-05-25, 06:11	Link #37
wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	This is from nocturne

2015-05-25, 12:03	Link #38
MT-G Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: London	Just found out the manga and read it to chapter 3, time to catch up with the LN. Spoiler for LN illustration, Eris Greyrat?: