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blakraven66 · 2014-12-20, 17:59

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Originally Posted by ukulelembo

There was choice for that, but Ufotable completely skipped this choice. Probably because it's one of the five "ending deciding" choices.
Basically during whole route there are choices which give you affection points. Either for Rin or for Saber. If before the end you have four or more points for Saber and eight or less points for Rin, you will get Good End. In any other case you get True End (or Dead End on 12th day if you have less than two points for Rin). There are a total of five choices where you can earn points for Saber. So far Ufotable obtained one Saber point, when Shirou saved her from Archer's a shot in episode 3. And one avoided when Shirou decided go to Matou household in episode 9. And two others were completely skipped. In this episode, it was the fourth choice and probably most outstanding because it was basically that you get either Rin point or Saber point. Scene that you're talking about is played when you choose Rin in this choice. With one already avoided Saber point this would mean True End. But apparently Ufotable either has different plans or simply wants to keep ending uncertain as long as possible.

Wait. I'm confused about the point system. Do the choices in Ep5 not give any points? Specifically the ones where he chose to attack Rider instead of taking the nail out and the one where he confirms to Saber that the alliance with Rin ends after dealing with the 3rd Master. These were Good End choices from the walkthrough if I remember right...

Or were these just neutral choices to avoid giving Rin points?

Lorhand · 2014-12-20, 18:07

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Originally Posted by blakraven66

Wait. I'm confused about the point system. Do the choices in Ep5 not give any points? Specifically the ones where he chose to attack Rider instead of taking the nail out and the one where he confirms to Saber that the alliance with Rin ends after dealing with the 3rd Master. These were Good End choices from the walkthrough if I remember right...

These choices were only there in your walkthrough to make sure Shirou avoids a Dead End. Whether he tries to pull out the nail or hit Rider with his weapon doesn't matter. None of these choices affect his relationship with Rin and/or Saber. And yes, there are potentially neutral choices too, to avoid getting too many Rin points.

Before this episode, the only choices that affected Saber's relationship with Shirou were:

-Saving her from Archer's shot instead of calling her; note, this choice gives him Rin points as well
-See how she's doing in the morning (that was not in the anime; would have been ep5)
-Buy her food (would have been the choice in ep9)

So Shirou got one Saber relationship point. Doesn't sound like Good End to me.

HandofFate · 2014-12-20, 18:43

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Originally Posted by Miraluka

Didn't the episode cut the part where Taiga asks Shirou if he likes Rin?

have a gif without the caption?

Dengar · 2014-12-20, 18:52

This episode more than made up for the lack of Rin Epic Face last week.

ukulelembo · 2014-12-20, 19:21

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Originally Posted by blakraven66

Specifically the ones where he chose to attack Rider instead of taking the nail out and the one where he confirms to Saber that the alliance with Rin ends after dealing with the 3rd Master. These were Good End choices from the walkthrough if I remember right...

These are completely neutral choices.

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Originally Posted by Lorhand

So Shirou got one Saber relationship point. Doesn't sound like Good End to me.

We don't know how many points he got. We just know that he definitely got one and one avoided. The other two aren't included in anime, so we don't know whether he got them or not.
There are three possibilities why Ufotable skipped them:

1) Keep the ending uncertain so long as possible.
2) They have some plans with both endings.
3) Simply due adaptational pacing and it has nothing to do with ending choice.

quigonkenny · 2014-12-20, 23:03

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Originally Posted by Miraluka

Didn't the episode cut the part where Taiga asks Shirou if he likes Rin?

Best part about that is seeing her expression change through the glass. Based ufotable...

Rava · 2014-12-21, 04:41

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Originally Posted by The Green One

She's noticing Shirou's inability to do anything for his own sake and how he only lives for others and she finds that rather personally upsetting.....

And here I thought she was also angry because he's so similar to Archer that she's already got a good idea what living with him would be like if she didn't do something about it.

Suzuku · 2014-12-21, 12:57

so next episode is an hour long?

chaos_alfa · 2014-12-21, 13:01

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Originally Posted by Suzuku

so next episode is an hour long?

Jip, that is what has been announced.

Side-streetdog · 2014-12-21, 13:42

Wait...

What the...

Fellen · 2014-12-21, 14:00

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Originally Posted by Side-streetdog

Wait...

What the...

Ufotable PLZ... just... get your shit together, this is something I'd expect from DEEN.

Suzuku · 2014-12-21, 14:11

it's not that bad

Rogue66 · 2014-12-21, 15:30

overall a episode with not much going on but is quiet good as it keep on building Shirou's and Rins relationship and their personality and what their ideals are. Archer had the best part in this episode is speech on why he live for himself, it so good that Shirou cant even properly defend his ideal.

Shyni · 2014-12-21, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Side-streetdog

Wait...

http://f.ptcdn.info/765/026/000/1419187188-UFOWTF-o.jpg

What the...

I saw a screencap of this mistake and paused a bunch when watching the episode on Crunchyroll, but I couldn't find the exact frame where this happened.

edit: picture of what I saw

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Dengar · 2014-12-21, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Fellen

Ufotable PLZ... just... get your shit together, this is something I'd expect from DEEN.

Oh please, it took me half a minute to even notice what you people are talking about. These mistakes happen a lot in anime and will likely be taken out in BD anyway.

Wait so it was just a single frame? What is even the problem?

The Green One · 2014-12-21, 16:52

Oh NOES! A slight error! Quick, pass out the torches and pitchforks and form an angry mob, this is clearly serious!

Rising Dragon · 2014-12-21, 17:34

Well, that can be a little more noticeable as far as errors go, minor though it may be. At least no one's trying to show zoomed-in screenshots of far-off characters as "bad art". Gundam 00 had a lot of morons doing that in the Gundam forum, and I daresay it's happened elsewhere.

quigonkenny · 2014-12-22, 01:19

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Originally Posted by Dengar

Wait so it was just a single frame? What is even the problem?

Haven't seen the CR version of the scene in question, but in the version I saw, the compositing error is there for the whole two lines or so Shirou says from that "camera angle". My guess is, given that there are apparently two versions out there, that they've already fixed it, some time between when they released the episode to the TV outlets and when they released it to the streaming outlets.

Dengar · 2014-12-22, 03:24

The problem isn't with people pointing out the error.

You know, finding errors, pointing at them and laughing is great and funny.

Finding errors, pointing at them as an example of how Ufo is an utter failure is just... I have even no words for that.

Rava · 2014-12-22, 04:10

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Originally Posted by quigonkenny

Haven't seen the CR version of the scene in question, but in the version I saw, the compositing error is there for the whole two lines or so Shirou says from that "camera angle". My guess is, given that there are apparently two versions out there, that they've already fixed it, some time between when they released the episode to the TV outlets and when they released it to the streaming outlets.

What is a compositing error? Google's not particularly clear on this.

And it seems safe to say that those who can immediately see the error are clearly in the minority.

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Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Well, that can be a little more noticeable as far as errors go, minor though it may be. At least no one's trying to show zoomed-in screenshots of far-off characters as "bad art". Gundam 00 had a lot of morons doing that in the Gundam forum, and I daresay it's happened elsewhere. __________________

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Rogue66 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	overall a episode with not much going on but is quiet good as it keep on building Shirou's and Rins relationship and their personality and what their ideals are. Archer had the best part in this episode is speech on why he live for himself, it so good that Shirou cant even properly defend his ideal.

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2014-12-22, 03:24	Link #39
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	The problem isn't with people pointing out the error. You know, finding errors, pointing at them and laughing is great and funny. Finding errors, pointing at them as an example of how Ufo is an utter failure is just... I have even no words for that.