2012-03-11, 00:06 | Link #20041 |
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Italy tax twists throw luxury market in disarray
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...8270P820120308
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2012-03-11, 00:11 | Link #20042 | |
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What matters is that assembly is the smallest component of the entire price. More than half of the price comes from the cost of buying components from Japan/Korea/Taiwan, and after taking out the assembly and shipping costs, there's still plenty of other things to consider. Take in all that, and the actual contribution from PRC's labor force is minimal at best. |
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The whole thing is Made in China, other than the brand which is printed in the country of the retailer. And now he is wringing his hands at the trade row between US and China regarding solar panels because most of his clients are there; I told him not to bother and go find clients elsewhere.
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2012-03-11, 00:39 | Link #20044 | |
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Iraq militia stone youths to death for "emo" style
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2012-03-11, 05:59 | Link #20048 |
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One could perhaps say that Americas support for the Shi'ite fraction has led certain Shi'ite fractions to believe that they can now do whatever the hell they want, but that's an indirect cause. In reality this has little to do with the Sunni-Shi'ite conflict. Whilst you can put some of the blame on the US for allowing these dicks to flourish, most the blame still falls on the extremists themselves. Note that even Moqtada al-Sadr condemned the stonings.
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2012-03-11, 06:09 | Link #20049 | |
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2012-03-11, 06:39 | Link #20050 |
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Just because America screwed up the occupation doesn't neccessarily mean they just shouldn't have intervened. It just means they screwed up the occupation. Had they got their counter-insurgency strategy right from the beggining, then Iraq probably wouldn't have most of the problems it has now.
And there's no guaruntee that the Arab spring would've solved everything. For one thing it hasn't solved Syria. And it hasn't neccessairly solved Libya either.
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2012-03-11, 06:57 | Link #20051 | |
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Though yes, at least had they sent more troops in number according to the suggestion of the military experts US could've pacified the country sooner. But even that wouldn't have been good enough 2) Maybe, but the extent of economic devastation and social radicalization by a period of military violence that Iraq has suffered now could've been prevented. It's a plus.
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2012-03-11, 08:05 | Link #20053 | ||
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But even with otherwise, it still stands hat having Saddam still around would still be better then destruction by ill-executed and illegitimate military occupation. They should've at least waited until Iraq turning into the then-Libya and intervened Libya-style. That is, if their actual concern being spreading democracy, of course... ================================================ Meanwhile, in France... Quote:
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2012-03-11, 09:23 | Link #20055 |
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Western forces kill 15 civilians in Afghanistan: Kabul government
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...82A02V20120311 It won't help thing there but I wouldn't be surprised if the impact wil be less than the last ''Koran burning''.
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2012-03-11, 13:08 | Link #20056 | |
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2012-03-11, 14:06 | Link #20057 | ||
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2) Economic devastation? Would another 10 years of crippling sanctions made it any better (Genuinly asking: This is the first I've heard of such an argument)? Whilst they have suffered a lot, I always thought their economy now is slightly better. The fact that there is even an emo culture in Baghdad in the first place is something in itself. Besides, I think the military violence could've been the same anyway. The problem with the US approach to Iraq in the first three years was that they weren't able to do much for Iraq besides removing Saddam Hussein. If the Shi'ites managed to remove Saddam then we probably would've seen the same debaathification and the resulting inflmmation of sectarianism. It all depends on whether the Sunni's would've helped as well and we can't say for sure. Quote:
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2012-03-11, 16:16 | Link #20058 | |
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I think that what America has works for America. I don't know that it's the best or most desirable model for everyone around the world. Even if it is, I'd rather that they choose it for themselves. The long-term planning wasn't so hot because it seemed as if the government expected that things would go smoothly once the initial new government was set up. But the Iraqis are not the same as Americans, and the cultural background and historical experiences that they hold are quite different from our own. It remains to be seen how their society will hold together given the intracultural rifts that exist, now unbound by an external dictatorship. Would it have been better in the long run if Saddam had been left in power, and if we had simply played a supporting role when the Iraqis eventually rose against him? We'll get a better sense of that as time goes on, but we'll never really know.
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2012-03-11, 21:16 | Link #20059 | |
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This story has changed. Now it is a single U.S. Soldier who went house to house on a killing spree. http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/11/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1 He should face a firing squad, but a Marine in Iraq got demoted and his pay cut for killing 24 Iraqi civilians. No wonder the entire world despises us. |
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2012-03-11, 22:05 | Link #20060 |
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Down but not out, sick Chavez seeks re-election in Venezuela
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...82A07720120311
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